March 19, 2008, 08:57 PM
California Assembly to Consider Severe
Restrictions on Ammunition Sales!
Stand Up and Make Your Voice Heard Today!

Next Wednesday, March 25, the Assembly Public Safety Committee will consider legislation that would require gun owners to obtain a permit-to-purchase before buying handgun ammunition.

Introduced by State Assembly Member Kevin De Leon (D-45), Assembly Bill 2062 puts ammunition sales in the crosshairs. AB2062 would require that law-abiding gun owners obtain a permit to buy handgun ammunition and would impose severe restrictions on the private transfers of handgun ammunition. Applicants for a permit-to-purchase would be required to submit to a background check, pay a $35 fee, and wait as long as 30 days to receive the permit.

Under AB2062, it would be unlawful to privately transfer more than 50 rounds of ammunition per month, even between family and friends, unless you are registered as a handgun ammunition vendor in the Department of Justices database. Ammunition retailers would have to be licensed and store ammunition in such a manner that it would be inaccessible to purchasers. The bill would also require vendors to keep a record of the transaction including the ammunition buyers name, drivers license, the quantity, caliber and type of ammunition purchased, and right thumbprint, which would be submitted to the Department of Justice or the number of his handgun ammunition purchase permit. Vendors would be required to contact the purchase permit database, to verify the validity of a permit before completing a sale. All ammunition sales in the State of California would be subject to a $3 per transaction tax. Lastly, mail order ammunition sales would be prohibited. Any violator of AB2062 would be subject to civil fines.

Please contact the members of the Assembly Public Safety Committee and your State Assembly Member TODAY and respectfully urge them to oppose this onerous attack on our Second Amendment freedoms. Contact information for the committee members can be found below. Please click here to find your State Assembly Member.

State Assembly Member Jose Solorio (D-69), Chair

(916) 319-2069

State Assembly Member Greg Aghazarian, (R-26), Vice Chair

(916) 319-2026

State Assembly Member Joel Anderson (R-77)

(916) 319-2077

State Assembly Member Hector De La Torre (D-50)

(916) 319-2050

State Assembly Member Fiona Ma (D-12)

(916) 319-2012

State Assembly Member Anthony J. Portantino (D-44)

(916) 319-2044

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March 19, 2008, 09:17 PM
It's like they are making war on gun owners and recreational shooters.

March 19, 2008, 09:43 PM
No no no its to stop the gang members...considering that California has 3 cities in the I think the top 10 of the top 15 cities with the highest crime.

We need all shooters to call the posted numbers and even the governors office since he will have to sign it...honestly I am not sure how much good its going to do us but I do not plan on losing without fighting. So lets get on those phones and emails.

March 19, 2008, 09:50 PM
Its more then just hand gun ammo they are going after here folks... its all metalic ammo... Since every almost every chambering has a hand gun made for that chambering... it could( and will be) be "streched" at some point in the future, To all caliburs chambered in hand guns.

March 19, 2008, 10:02 PM
almost every chambering has a hand gun made for that chambering... it could( and will be) be "streched" at some point in the future, To all caliburs chambered in hand guns.


What if CA citizens drive to another state and stock up?

What if CA criminals do the same?

March 19, 2008, 10:12 PM
I'm not talking about TCs there are bolt action hang guns that are chambered in every popular hunting calibur... Thats why I said it could be streched in the future.

March 19, 2008, 10:53 PM
Will be sending a letter right away. But how do I know which one to send it to?

March 19, 2008, 11:05 PM
Send it to all of them, then look up your representative and send it to them as well.

March 19, 2008, 11:05 PM
This same legislator proposed the same legislation last year and it went nowhere.

After Heller is decided in the end of June and teh SCOUTS says that the 2A is an "Individual Right", "that can be reasonably restricted."

I don't think that ammo cards and registration will be considered "reasonable restrictions", and It probably violates interstate commerce.

I'll write, I'll call, It will again get shot down and I'd bet a box of .45 he proposes it again next year.

March 19, 2008, 11:40 PM
I know its the same bill and same guy, but we cannot let down our guard.

By the way it was the NRA that sent this to me in an email alert.

March 19, 2008, 11:59 PM
FYI. Here's the link that you can get status update on the bill.

You can also hit the "subscribe" to get e-mail update on the bill.

I'll send post-card to them this week.


March 20, 2008, 02:54 AM
Thanks for posting this.
I'll be sending out emails to all of them.
Mods - can this be moved to Activism?

March 20, 2008, 04:47 PM
Sorry I totally googed when I put it here now that I realized where I put it. Sorry guys.

March 20, 2008, 08:04 PM

March 20, 2008, 10:00 PM
Is CA still part of the US? I'm beginning to wonder:scrutiny:....

March 20, 2008, 10:46 PM
DeLeon sponsored similar legislation last year that would have made displaying and handling ammunition in gun and sporting goods shops illegal except by registered personnel. The idea was to classify ammo as dangerous explosives.

Here's a copy of the letter that I wrote to DeLeon on that occasion:

Saturday, June 23, 2007

Kevin DeLeon
Capitol Office:
State Capitol
P.O. Box 942849
Sacramento, CA 94249-0045
Tel: (916) 319-2045

Dear Representative DeLeon:

I am extremely sorry to see that you have continued the Democrat’s assault on law abiding, responsible gun owners in this state with AB362 (this year's bill es AB. 2062} As usual, this bill and many others like it originating in our Assembly will do nothing to prevent crime. It will only drive up the cost of recreational shooting.

As a native Californian, responsible citizen, and recreational shooter, I’m tired of being picked on by legislators who should be targeting real criminals rather than law abiding, tax- paying gun owners. It has always been my understanding that responsible legislation enhances freedom. Recent legislation has done just the opposite by making current benign activity into new criminal behavior. This does not seem to be the action of a legislature that is friendly to its constituents.

Although I don’t live in your district, until I see responsible restraint from elected officials I see no other course of action than to contribute as heavily as possible to your opposition when you are next up for re-election in 2008. I hope to convince many other affected voting gun owners both in and out of the state of California to do so as well.


I just checked and found out that DeLeon won with 82% of the vote. He's probably sponsoring these bills because he's immune to attempts to unseat him. I'm still going to contribute to the Republican opposition.

P.S. With .45 ammo in gun stores around my area going for $21/bx of 50; .40 at $16-18; and 9mm at $11-14 this legislation may be un-necessary. I just saw Federal .308 Gold Medal Match going for $30 per bx. of 20 = $1.50/cartridge!! For .308!

March 21, 2008, 12:19 AM
just means we will all be buying our ammo in nevada.
less tax for ca more for nevada.

March 23, 2008, 11:23 AM
See? Write them a letter saying you'll fight to oppose their re-election and they ignore you knowing they will be back in office anyway. Let this state sink and move to the real U.S.

April 10, 2008, 11:15 AM
Please don't forget to call, or write your reps...

It looks like the vote is along the party line.

Please don't forget to call, or write to thanks the committee for vote NO.

The address and phone number is on the top.

TOPIC: Ammunition.
DATE: 04/08/2008
MOTION: Do pass and be re-referred to the Committee on Appropriations.
(AYES 5. NOES 2.) (PASS)


Solorio De La Torre Ma Portantino


Aghazarian Anderson


April 10, 2008, 11:41 AM
Folks, please do not forget the Onetouch system at That way, one email goes to all the correct people--and there are advantages to having 1 email going to the entire committee or house:evil:

April 10, 2008, 07:46 PM
im thinking an ammo store in NV on the CA/NV border would be hugely profitable

April 11, 2008, 12:24 AM
Christ, again? It's only been about a month since they tried to push the last one through. :fire:

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