Carrying two pistols?


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Jimmy Dean
March 20, 2008, 02:17 AM
I currently have my Taurus .45 mill. pro. I OC it right now, I bought it for its size/caliber combination, very conceilable. When I get my CCW, I will be concealing it. However, the thought has occured to me, what would I do if I needed to draw, and she jammed?

Now, obvioulsy, I could 'try' and clear the jam and hope I am still alive to get another shot off, however, it would seem that the best option in this scenario would actually be a second pistol, possibly a smaller caliber and/or revolver, possibly even something with less power (not tryin to start that old debate here) but more reliable or some-such.

So basically, is carrying two pistols common at all, do most of y'all only carry the one and just hope it works fine when/if needed? (I have never had a problem with mine, but I would not like to bet my life on even that slight of a risk, since it is probably your life on the line)

Of course, I have thought about when I get my CCW, carrying the .45 concealed, and getting a larger gun, possibly a .480 ruger or something (bigger is better huh? haha) an OCing it

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BikerRN
March 20, 2008, 02:29 AM
Off Duty I routinely carry a minimum of two guns and three knives.

One of the knives is for "work", like actually cutting stuff, one is good for cutting seatbelts and the other is a fixed blade whose sole purpose is to "carve somebody off my gun" in the attempt of a gun grab. I also carry at least one reload per gun.

So yes, two guns is very common among the people I "hang with" but maybe not among the general population. I also carry a flashlight and a cellphone. I like having a gun accessable to either hand. It solves a lot of problems.

I like my BUG to be a J-Frame Airweight Revolver and I carry it most often in my weakside pocket.

Biker

Guitargod1985
March 20, 2008, 03:42 AM
Depending on your secondary gun's location on your body and your mode of dress, you may get to where it would be just as quick to clear your jam and fire before bringing another gun into service. This requires a lot of practice, though.

Kind of Blued
March 20, 2008, 04:27 AM
Enter the Smith & Wesson J-Frame...

Ankle holster, pocket holster, anywhere you want as long as it isn't a forehead holster.

mnrivrat
March 20, 2008, 05:47 AM
Most around me only carry one gun but they make sure it is a reliable firearm and also spend some time in clearance drills.

Auto's are very reliable these days but I have to admitt to carrying a revolver. I must be getting old huh !

nelson133
March 20, 2008, 05:52 AM
Any mechanical device can and will fail, Murphy says this will occur just when you need it. Since most of the well known gun training academies recommend backup guns, I carry 2, giving me 3 in total. I don't think gun fight rules allow time out calls.

loop
March 20, 2008, 06:14 AM
I always carry a backup gun. The idea that my primary and BUG would fail me is beyond my comprehension.

If it comes down to blades we are both going to bleed. The winner is the one who does not go into shock first.

I'd rather be shooting when I go into shock.

In event my pistol fails, I got a .32 gun in my pocket for fun and a razor in my shoe...

BikerRN
March 20, 2008, 06:35 AM
I'd rather be shooting when I go into shock.


So would I, but sometimes that's not possible. Depending on the situation and your position, you may find it easier to go to the blade in a "gun grab" situation instead of going for your BUG.

Landric
March 20, 2008, 04:26 PM
I generally carry my primary weapon strong-side IWB and my backup in my left (off-side) pocket when off-duty. Due to uniform pocket restraints on-duty, I carry my backup in an ankle holster when I'm at work.

ArmedBear
March 20, 2008, 04:30 PM
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dmxx9900
March 20, 2008, 04:31 PM
I intend doing that when I get my ccw license I will carry a S&W model 10 in 4 inch and a back-up S&W model 36 in 2 inch.

Trumpetman
March 20, 2008, 04:42 PM
I think carrying two guns is the way to go. I ALWAYS carry a J-frame I my right front pants pocket. In addition, I carry a 4-inch .357 Magnum six-shooter inside-the-pants during the cold months, or a 9MM 18-shooter in the same area during the warm months. I usually leave my big guns in the car when I go in to work or church, but I ALWAYS have that J-frame on me.

Today, being the first day of spring, is the first day of 9MM carry for me. It feels almost like nothing, compared to that 2 and a half pound chunk of steel I've been carrying since last fall! My 9MM DAO pistol just weighs something over 24 ounces fully stoked.

I met a guy out at the shooting range who carries two J-frame .357's. That works too.

1 old 0311
March 20, 2008, 05:01 PM
I keep one accessible with either hand.

PTK
March 20, 2008, 05:08 PM
Just like 1 old 0311, I tend to keep a knife and gun accessible with either hand in different positions.

The Lone Haranguer
March 20, 2008, 07:08 PM
It is pretty common for gun carriers to have a main gun and a small backup gun hidden in a less conventional location. I've done this on occasion, with a main gun in a IWB belt holster and a Kahr PM9 in a pocket holster. Or, carry a matched pair of sidearms, but you need mirror-image holsters and other gear to carry these comfortably. Most of us are not in that much danger. ;)

Cosmoline
March 20, 2008, 07:17 PM
It's a little known fact that having two handguns multiplies their mutual capacity. So two 1911's will have about 70 rounds between them. I saw it on "Last Man Standing"

CZ-100
March 20, 2008, 07:41 PM
When I carry Two guns, it is my Taurus PT145 and my Kel-Tec P3AT

harbingerm
March 20, 2008, 07:45 PM
I've done this on occasion, with a main gun in a IWB belt holster and a Kahr PM9 in a pocket holster.

This is exactly how/what I carry. Either a G19 or Kimber 1911 IWB and pocket a PM9. Carry off side one spare mag for each firearm.

Sistema1927
March 20, 2008, 08:10 PM
I used to carry a "New York reload" until a modification to our CCW law outlawed the carrying of more than one concealed pistol. :banghead:

I always carry a concealed weapon while carrying openly.

thunder173
March 20, 2008, 08:22 PM
THE best reload,...(or the best cure for a jammed gun), in a firefght?? ANother loaded gun!!!

Mad Magyar
March 20, 2008, 08:30 PM
So basically, is carrying two pistols common at all, do most of y'all only carry the one and just hope it works fine when/if needed?
There is "no hope" involved...You have fired it repeatedly, cleaned-stripped it, know every idiosyncracy of your pistol, and have the utmost confidence it will fire over & over again. Carrying a 2nd piece because of an uncertainty of your 1st doesn't make any sense to me.:confused:
Murphy doesn't belong in the discussion if you prepared well.
Extra mag, no problem, but damn I hope that guy who says he carries 2 pistols, a razor, 5 mags, etc. doesn't come on.. I start to think about Bennet's famous line in Commando....:)

El Tejon
March 20, 2008, 08:48 PM
Mad, you are aware of the number of LEOs and others that have died because of malfunctioned weapons, correct? You are aware of many famous gunfights where weapons have malfunctioned?

Ever been to the range or gun school and seen all the weapons that quit functioning for a 100 different reasons? You know many of the noted gun trainers carry 2nd and 3rd guns?

Jimmy, do not know how "common" it is but the idea has merit. You should learn malfunction drills, including one-handed drills (you will be fighting, you will be hurt), of course, and if your pistol "never" malfunctions then you really need to train malfunction drills (or just take it to gun school).

I carry a bug, Kahr P9, on the belt. I dislike carrying guns in pockets (I consider it dangerous) but I know people with far more experience than I that do carry in pockets.

There is an argument for a revolver as the backup gun as the weapon will likely be used in a position of distress (e.g. on your back) and small self-loaders can be prone to malfunction with weakened grip from blood loss or wierd hand positioning while rolling on the ground and the small pistols, that are so popular with the 300 lbs. SEELS at the gun shoppe, are harder to manipulate (especially in duress as you will be if you need your bug). As well, a revolver can be pressed up against the threat and not unlock as an auto as you would use it if you are pushing a threat who has just tackled you.

BamaHoosier
March 20, 2008, 09:06 PM
I'm a wheelie-man,so I do it backwards:D.My back-up is a Beretta Bobcat(mod.21) in the pocket and the main one is currently a Charter Arms Off-Duty on the hip,CCW here in Hoosierland.

El Tejon
March 20, 2008, 09:08 PM
CCW here in Hoosierland.

That's LTCH in Hoosierland.:D

Seotaji
March 20, 2008, 10:04 PM
Or, carry a matched pair of sidearms, but you need mirror-image holsters and other gear to carry these comfortably. Most of us are not in that much danger. ;)

Is it a bad idea to consider carrying two pistols one on your strong side and one on the weak? I figured I would carry two extra magazines between them.

I figure two is better than one and since they are the same pistol, I wouldn't be fumbling between two different trigger styles or grips.

Silly idea?

I would look kinda wider though, since the pistols and the holsters would add 3" or so to my waist. I'm not a large man, by any means.

Deaf Smith
March 20, 2008, 11:30 PM
Packing two is a good idea. Maybe one main gun and another one as backup/spare mag. Yes spare mag. Instead of carrying a spare mag, just carry a spare gun. The second just becomes a New York Reload.

Crunker1337
March 21, 2008, 01:12 AM
GLOCKs are probably a good idea for this; get a subcompact and a compact in the same caliber so you can use the same magazines.

loop
March 21, 2008, 06:27 AM
This harkens to one of my favorite stories. I was once the president of a small gun club in rural Idaho. We met at the only restaurant in town, at the bowling alley. One time I showed up early and the big room we held our meetings in wasn't yet available.

Before long there were five of us sitting at the table. The subject of concealed carry came up and how difficult it was to hide a gun.

Next thing you know there were eight guns sitting on the table. The waitress came buy and counted for us and wanted to know if we needed more coffee.

On her next trip back there were 13 guns on the table and about a dozen holster rigs. She asked if that was all the guns we had.

We looked at each other all started laughing. We knew that every single one of us was holding out. We all had at least one more gun.

Then we started joking about how many guns would have been on the table if the militia guys were there. They made us conservative old men look like flaming liberals.

BTW, I always carry two. If I actually expect some kind of issue to arise I probably had three or four and a slew of mags.

ATW525
March 21, 2008, 08:15 AM
An Airweight (or Airlite) J frame is really not much more inconvenient to carry than a spare magazine. Personally, I would rather have the second gun than the spare mag. I've carried both a second gun and spare ammo in the past, but I've dropped the spare ammo from my carry loadout in the name of streamlining my EDC kit.

Ala Dan
March 21, 2008, 09:23 AM
Nowdays. BUG's (back-up guns) have become a necessity. With todays
ever increasing crime rate across the nation, Mr. & Mrs. John Q. Citizen
need protection on their person, in their vechile, and sadly even inside
their own home. I carry highly reliable weaponary; but even in doing so,
I still carry a BUG that I can swing into action very quickly if needed~! ;)

Mad Magyar
March 21, 2008, 10:37 AM
Mad, you are aware of the number of LEOs and others that have died because of malfunctioned weapons, correct?
This thread is about civilian carry. Actually, there are more LEO's incapacitated due to training & judgement issues rather than a malfunctioning primary carry. (Check the F.B.I. Uniform Crime Data Reports for the past 30 yrs.)
LEO's are not the standard in gun proficiency and maintaining a weapon compared to the average pistolero who is knowledgeble about his pistols & has a regular practice regimen. Ask M. Ayoob in this area....
Many of us that carry every day in different environments & clothing attire understand one thing: theory vs. reality.
I don't carry for Armagaedon. When the good guys arrive, I want one gun on my person for some other obivious reasons.:)

misterwhipple
March 21, 2008, 11:36 AM
I would look kinda wider though, since the pistols and the holsters would add 3" or so to my waist. I'm not a large man, by any means.
Hey, as long as you don't clank when you walk, right? :D

go_bang
March 21, 2008, 12:40 PM
If you like shoulder holsters then carrying matched pistols would be pretty easy with something like a Galco Miami Classic or similar rig. Just hang another holster where the mag pouches would normally be.

Seotaji
March 21, 2008, 07:54 PM
Hey, as long as you don't clank when you walk, right?:D

True. Unless I carry two pistols in a smartcarry or I can blame the BBBS (big brass balls) syndrome. ;)

DrLaw
March 21, 2008, 07:55 PM
Loop, funny story. You could not do that here without somebody going nuts about what was happening.

I used to carry two, either a duty gun and a .22 semi-auto hide-out, or an off-duty and the .22 semi-auto backup (somewhere nearby). No knives. Didn't know how to use them - then.

Today I carry no guns (knife is a different story). One reason is because I am not as scared or nervous as I used to be, the second is that I became a civilian and in Illinois we are not trusted by our State Police and Governor to carry a gun, much less possess one (Firearm Owner's Identification Card required).

I wish we could carry, but with this governor in there, all we will get here in Illinois is more stories of corruption and fewer stories about concealed carry being passed into law.

The Doc is depressed now for answering this. :(

tblt
March 21, 2008, 09:53 PM
I carry a 38 snub and a .380 pocket pistol, looking to get a small 9 llike a khar to carry also.I also carry 5 extra 38 shells in my pocket.
This way I can pass a gun to the wife for protection too.

ABCDE
March 22, 2008, 04:56 AM
I usually carry 2 J-frames. But, if I was living in the mainland, I'd probably carry larger pistols. It's kind of hard for me to conceal my larger guns in shorts, t-shirt, and slippers unless it's a very cold night in hawaii.

Katana8869
March 22, 2008, 10:58 AM
I carry my P3AT as a BUG/reload. It is small enough and light enough that for me it carries as easily as a spare magazine or speedloader. I carry my main gun (either my SP-101, P345 or Glock 26) IWB with the P3AT in a pocket holster in my left front pocket.

Jimmy Dean
March 23, 2008, 09:55 PM
I have been lookin around, and thinkin that my next gun will be a 1911, and the next carry pistol will be somethin likea snubnose revolver. OC the 1911, CCW the Taurus PT145 on the weak side, and the revolver in my boot perhaps

Markbo
March 26, 2008, 06:03 PM
I don't really understand the whole BUG thing. I figure if I am carrying... that IS my back up. My first up is to run like hell!

I would rather have backup magazines than another tiny gun in a different caliber... I can just imagine too many things going wrong.

What do I know... I am not LEO or retired military so my thinking is generally a little on the less hardcore side. Maybe some of you guys could explain to me the thinking behind it - coming from a civilian frame of reference only please.

fogdor
March 26, 2008, 06:13 PM
Murphy doesn't belong in the discussion if you prepared well.

He might not "belong" but he'll sure invite himself whenever he feels like it! I feel carrying a BUG is appropriate if you are a "belt AND suspenders" kind of guy. It's a personal choice I feel has both merits and drawbacks, but to dismiss the idea out of hand is silly.

Mastiff
March 26, 2008, 07:22 PM
I'm in Illinois, so carry is not an option. If I did, I would like to carry two of the Tokarevs in 9x23 Winchester, if there was someway to do it, like with the Galco Miami Classic. The Tok is a very thin pistol, about 3/4 of an inch thick minus the grips. I would use a Hogue Handall Rubber Grip instead. FWIW.

ashtxsniper
March 26, 2008, 07:29 PM
Currently carrying a H&K USP 40 OWB with 3 spare 13 rd mags and a Kahr P40 BUG small of the back with 2 spare 6 rd mags. I usually carry 2 guns and anywhere from 3 - 5 knives.

Wopasaurus
March 26, 2008, 07:58 PM
I only carry one gun, but that's only because all of my money is tied up in a rifle project before the happy-go-lucky gun ban.

I've got an XD-45 Compact for my carry, I don't forsee it pooping the bed on me. But if the funds are right, I figure I'd get one of those airweight/hammerless .357's in my pocket, or keep it in my bookbag that I almost always have with me, at least when I'm to and from work, which is is almost always where I am when I'm not at home.

sinistr
March 27, 2008, 02:39 PM
it seems it comes down to personal circumstances,i can see why some people feel it necessary to carry multiple pistols.for my situation,its gun/knife sometimes...knife all the time.

ArchAngelCD
March 28, 2008, 03:33 AM
I carry only 1 revolver.

tbreed725
March 28, 2008, 09:07 AM
i always carry two guns my p3at goes everywhere and then a primary but then i carry two flashlights as well one on keychain one in pocket, two is one one is none rule.

buzz_knox
March 28, 2008, 09:59 AM
If I did, I would like to carry two of the Tokarevs in 9x23 Winchester, if there was someway to do it, like with the Galco Miami Classic.

When did they start making Toks in 9x23?

As for carrying two weapons, which states prohibit carrying a second concealed weapon?

highfive
March 28, 2008, 01:12 PM
i carry only one.. a revolver in 357 it always goes bang

PAPACHUCK
March 29, 2008, 07:31 AM
Primary gun OWB @3:00, S&W 642 in LH front pocket. Always.

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