Henry Warning!!!!-


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Ultima-Ratio
March 20, 2008, 05:11 PM
Just recieved a warning from Henry that mentions some Big Boys have in fact been shipped with SIX rounds of live ammo

Lawyers get ready, set.....GO!

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ArmedBear
March 20, 2008, 05:13 PM
Chambered or no?

I've heard some things from a store manager or two about at least one other brand shipping across the country, loaded and chambered. Brand shall remain nameless because it is not firsthand information.

Titan6
March 20, 2008, 05:19 PM
What were the four rules again? Don't recall any exceptions like "does not apply if shipped from the factory NIB".

Never assume. Ever.

james_bond
March 20, 2008, 05:21 PM
That is more exciting than finding a toy in your ceral box :)

Ultima-Ratio
March 20, 2008, 05:33 PM
Chambered or no?

No mention of the rifles condition other than posted

ArmedBear
March 20, 2008, 05:38 PM
Reason I ask is that I'm not sure that a chambered lever gun is drop-safe, depending on the position of the hammer and the gun design. Scary.

Poper
March 20, 2008, 05:46 PM
What?
Free ammo?:D
Poper

Chipperman
March 20, 2008, 05:50 PM
With the prices of ammo lately, I'd be psyched!

CajunBass
March 20, 2008, 06:16 PM
They just need to run a contest.

"Watch for free ammo in with your new gun and WIN! WIN! WIN!"

BobbyQuickdraw
March 20, 2008, 07:24 PM
The Henry is NOT safe to carry with a round chambered. None of the Cowboy style rifles are, because almost all of them lack a physical safety, so the hammer sits on the bolt, which has the firing pin resting on the live round. The Rossi 92's have a safety, but if the safety is disengaged, its 'unsafe.'

Though I think some of the rifles do have a quarter stop, but the instruction manuals say "dont carry chambered, as if dropped the gun may accidentally discharge."

Magnuumpwr
March 20, 2008, 07:51 PM
Probably a ploy to get people to buy henry rifles!!

The Canuck
March 20, 2008, 07:53 PM
Hopefully there won't be an ND and the person who picks up the rifle follows good SOP and clears the firearm before playin' with it. And when he finds six rounds of ammo in it he can keep it!

TehK1w1
March 20, 2008, 08:00 PM
The half-cock found on Marlin Levers seems pretty much bulletproof to me-I've tried VERY hard to make the gun fire in that condition.
Of course, no safety should be trusted absolutely.

MilsurpShooter
March 20, 2008, 09:05 PM
Henry has a Half Cock, don't know if they have another safety on the large bore models, I know my .22 lever doesn't

Gunnerpalace
March 20, 2008, 09:16 PM
Not to sound stupid, but dealers, do people drop guns when looking at them?

Dave Hicks
March 20, 2008, 10:20 PM
do people drop guns when looking at them?


I'm not a dealer, but I did get a real good deal on a Sig 220 SAS that had been dropped and damaged in the shop.

Fixed up, it was still $250 under list.

MilsurpShooter
March 20, 2008, 11:44 PM
Saw a very nice Mauser Broomhandle hit the floor at the gunshop I go to

JWarren
March 21, 2008, 12:34 AM
It would be a real eye-opener for a FFL to get a box in with a bullet hole in the end of it. :what:


-- John

DZL HOG
March 21, 2008, 12:50 AM
/\/\/\ That would definitely be a scary thing. That'll teach the guys on the loading docks not to throw the packages around.
j/k.

I would think that a gunshop would check the gun before putting it on the shelf or handing it to a potential buyer. I know alot of the rifles on the shelves have bolts removed, are locked back, have the triggers and/or levers zip tied or something.

Matt

zinj
March 21, 2008, 01:32 AM
The Henry is NOT safe to carry with a round chambered. None of the Cowboy style rifles are, because almost all of them lack a physical safety, so the hammer sits on the bolt, which has the firing pin resting on the live round. The Rossi 92's have a safety, but if the safety is disengaged, its 'unsafe.'

Though I think some of the rifles do have a quarter stop, but the instruction manuals say "dont carry chambered, as if dropped the gun may accidentally discharge."

If you look in most instruction manuals for long guns there is a warning not to carry a loaded chamber. The half-cock setup isn't any less drop-safe than a gun with a trigger-block manual safety. In fact, it may be moreso because there is much more engagement between the half cock notch and sear than on the hammer and sear engagement surfaces on a gun with a safety that only blocks the trigger.

Back on the main topic, why were the guns loaded like that in the first place? Did they load them up for test firing and accidentally send them out by mistake?

Grizzly Adams
March 21, 2008, 02:26 PM
Not to sound stupid, but dealers, do people drop guns when looking at them?

YES! I had a customer drop a Rem 1100 and bust the stock once!

DWARREN123
March 21, 2008, 03:48 PM
Neat, buy a firearm and get free ammo!:evil:

goon
March 21, 2008, 03:50 PM
Well, at least it proves that they generally test fire their guns.
Except for the ones they forget to fire.

jwxspoon
March 21, 2008, 03:53 PM
Wonder how many times they typically test fire a rifle?

mossberg
March 21, 2008, 04:34 PM
What kind of ammo? I wouldn't want my gun shipped to me with a silver spoon in it's mouth.

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