Okay, I've just GOT to ask about... the Hi-Point!
BHPshooter
August 9, 2003, 04:21 PM
Well, I know they are definitely a monstrosity as far as aesthetics go, but for the price, I would kind of like to have a gun that I'm not going to be afraid to use a lot, under less than favorable conditions.
I love my BHP, but for a gun that I feel so attached to, it's hard to want to roll around in the dirt with it. I think I would like it to be a home defense gun, and carry gun when I am older, but for plinking/etc. I'd like to have something I care about a little (or a lot) less.
So tell me all about the Hi-Point.
Do they jam? Are they worth the dirt-cheap price?
Thanks,
Wes
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444
August 9, 2003, 04:25 PM
You might want to do a search on this board. This subject has been coverd many times.
Get ready for the arguments to start.
I have had a Hi-Point .45 ordered for months. They are an allocated item.
cool45auto
August 9, 2003, 08:52 PM
Do they jam?
BWAAHAAHAAHAAHAA!!!!:evil:
bfox
August 9, 2003, 09:08 PM
I have a new polymer .45
No it has never jammed.
About 600 rounds threw it so far .
I am having some light primer strikes lately .
My reloaded ammo though.
Called them they were very nice and said to try factory ammo
if still a problem send it back . Have not tried any yet .
Bill
hksw
August 9, 2003, 10:53 PM
I'm well past 1200 rounds through my 9 Comp. (Stopped counting rounds. Slacked off on shooting it due to other acquisitions since its purchase.) 1 failure to feed, nose of the round missed the chamber and got jammed agains the edge of the chamber. Occurred some time before 600 rounds.
coldshot03/04
August 10, 2003, 03:32 AM
I have one in 40S&W it jams on the last round. This occurs on the very last round in the magazine every single time.:confused: But mine is a plinker not for defense. Fun Guns to plink with.:D
Ive owned worse Bersa/Llama.
EAA Witness.:barf: :barf:
Walt Sherrill
August 10, 2003, 08:40 AM
They're ugly as sin, but apparently reasonably competent firearms.
One acquaintance who runs a very high-traffic (and I assume, knowing him, high profit) gun shop claims they're the only "cheap" gun worth buying. (He's sold them all over the years, because some customers demand an inexpensive gun, and the Hi-Point line is the only one he doesn't get complaints about. In fact, its the only "bargain" line he now carries.)
The new carbines have been getting pretty good press, by the way -- and a lot of LEOs are spending their own hard cash to carry one in the trunk.
Tropical Z
August 12, 2003, 10:27 PM
Hi-Points are fine guns for the money and are reliable and accurate.People who usually couldnt point one out if it smacked em in the face will tell you to avoid them.These people 99.9% of the time have never even held a Hi-Point let alone shoot one!
Jim K
August 12, 2003, 11:33 PM
I have never owned a Hi-Point, but have fired several and they look like heck, but seem reliable and reasonably accurate. There may be lemons, but I have not seen one. I have not used the new polymer ones.
The weight is a drawback that goes with a blowback system in the bigger calibers.
I am astonished by the number of replies saying "I have never seen a Hi-Point, but I just know they are no good." Odd how much one learns by some kind of magic osmosis.
I doubt I will see any new ones, though, unless MD either repeals its "internal lock" law or Hi-Point puts a lock on its pistols. Neither looks likely.
Jim
Opeybarr68
August 17, 2005, 02:49 PM
I do not own a Hi point but I have fired many rounds thourgh a hi point 40. A friend of mine owns it but I have fired it more than he has. It is ugly and the slide it heavy. To it's creidt, the heavy slide slams forward with just enough weight and violence to put you right back on target after the recoil. I found the weapon with it's fixed barrel to be more than average when it came to accuracy. They also come with optional sights. both sets of sights are fully adjustable.
They have a low price and the company backs them up pretty good. A friend of mine that runs a local shop insures me that the company sends a new weapon instead of fixing the one you have. He had taken one apart and could not get it to go together right. He called Hi point, they said to send it in. a short time later he recieved a new one. Hi point even told him that they spend time and resources on production and not repair so it is easier for them to send a new one instead of fixing.
The down side to the weapon is how it is disassembled. There is a pin in the rear of the slide that must be driven out with the slide locked back. This isn't the quickest, easiest way to take a weapon down for cleaning. I wouldn't be affraid of dropping 100 to 150 for a new hi point if I were in the market for cheap. It does shoot fairly accurately and I experienced no failures at all.
Good luck
MICHAEL T
August 17, 2005, 03:17 PM
Hi-Point is really . The new and improved Glock :D Their 40 doesn't KABOOOOM !!
Well their dependable and ugly just like a Glock. Maybe Hi-Point should go after Police market :) Least it a American Brand.
Pietro Beretta
August 17, 2005, 03:31 PM
LOL!
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The Hi-Point good Plinker Gun. Accurate; Lifetime Warranty evin to a 3rd party owner.
Also 1/10 times I try to rack the slide, the bullet doesnt load into the chamber for the first round. This seems like their is a magazine flaw the nose of the bullet should be pointing up a bit more
Its very ugly, trigger sucks, grips stink, doesnt like hollow points, bitch to take down.
Pietro Beretta
August 17, 2005, 03:36 PM
Here (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=145186&highlight=Hi-Point) is a discussion held not to long ago about the hi-point.
Notice the 6 Pages and the thread is Locked.
Black Majik
August 17, 2005, 04:29 PM
If you're feeling a little adventurous, theres a free Hi-Point somewhere in the Sonoran Desert :D
SpookyPistolero
August 17, 2005, 04:35 PM
Why gamble? Sounds like a mil-surp pistol would be right up your alley. A Tokerov or Mak, or a CZ52 would probably meet your needs quite well, cost about the same, but beat the heck out of the hi-point in durability and reliability (and probably accuracy). I just can't see the appeal of the hi-point when good mil-surps are around.
larry starling
August 17, 2005, 04:53 PM
Here we go again! This type of thread gets more play than reruns of everybody loves Raymond..... :neener:
wingman
August 17, 2005, 05:25 PM
40 caliber carbine, accurate, fun, ugly, no ftf's. :D
Black Majik
August 17, 2005, 06:29 PM
Honestly, now I think about it, if you want a gun to just toss around and take 9mm ammo, get a old police trade in Glock 19/17. I'm sure you can find an older Gen 2 in good condition for a low price. Or maybe even look around for a 1st gen glock 17. It'd be much better than a hi-point.
CajunBass
August 17, 2005, 07:58 PM
I like mine. It works.
Javelin Man
August 17, 2005, 08:48 PM
They're both about as nice looking.
Hi-Points have been made for about 18 years. The early models had some problems that got worked out. Anything you buy new is going to be reliable and will have a factory stand behind their product. You may have trouble getting Makarov or CZ-52's manufacturer to let you send it back for warranty. I'm not slamming those guns as I'm planning on buying a CZ-52 for my next toy.
You state you want a gun that can get dirty with no tears shed, reliable and won't jam, worthy of home defense, good for plinking and if it's worth the low price.
The Hi-Point will fit the bill. Get it and you won't regret it. It's a $100 gun that delivers far more value then that.
Major Beer
August 17, 2005, 09:14 PM
i have one - fun to play with. honestly i have never had a problem with it. it is cheap for a reason - plastic sites, kinda clunky, but they stand behind their product. i live 20 miles from the factory in Mansfield, Ohio. i bought one since they are local - i have other handguns but for some odd reason i like running ammo through it.
if it was all i had - my guess it would fire when it had to. i have put twice as much ammo in dollars as i paid for it and it still shoots well.
personally i like it better than my buddy's Glock - feels more like a brick than a cinder block (Glock). they are ok - but you get what you pay for.
Major Beer
August 17, 2005, 09:29 PM
wow - read that sucker - pretty entertaining
Pietro Beretta
August 17, 2005, 09:34 PM
I could not however recommended this gun for home defense.
There are soo many better choices for home defense gun.
Buy the Hi-Point for your Car/ Trunk Gun, You wont get pissed off if it get scratched/ stolen or what not.
Buy something nice: CZ/ Glock /XD/ SIG/ HK/. For home protection, something that is ergonomically correct, with a half decent trigger, that fits good and points well.
gunner03
August 17, 2005, 09:40 PM
Mine has a very slow slide,kinda hangs for a half sec. before sliding home. They will fix it if i send it in I know,but I've done that twice.I'm bored.
Trebor
August 18, 2005, 12:49 AM
I called the owner of the High Point company a couple years back when I started instructing. I wanted to get a manual so I'd be a little familiar with the gun in case any students showed up with one.
The guy was nice, but surprised I wanted a manual. I said I wanted to know how to field strip it in case a student's gun needed cleaning. He said, "We don't reccomend you strip the pistol. Just look the slide open and spray gun scubber everwhere." He said that maybe after 1,000 rounds you could take it apart for better cleaning.
Btw, I did get a manual. It's one page fold-out chart. Not much to the gun, after all.
TonyB
August 18, 2005, 02:58 PM
Shooting a Hi point is like making out with your sister..it feels good till somebody sees you.... :neener:
Just a joke son........I'm all for cheap reliable guns..my step son has one of their carbines and it's amazingly accurate,and if kept well lubed it doesn;t jam.
I have never shot one of their handguns,but I want to..if anyone around Albany NY has one I can try out PM me..I promise I'll do an honest report..after all I'm the guy who loves his $150 Rossi snubby..... :cool:
Werewolf
August 18, 2005, 03:14 PM
Any gunshow in OKC, OK:
9mm Hi-Point $89
.40 Hi-Point $109
.45 ACP Hi-Point $129
Buy it...
Shoot it...
When it needs cleaning after a 1000 rds or so toss it in the trash and buy another.
Blowback operated, fixed barrel very accurate for the money and go boom 999 times out of a 1000.
Hi-Point supplies a weapon that works good enough to those who otherwise cannot afford a weapon that works good enough.
For those of us who can afford our Sigs, BHP's, S&W's etc - well - a Hi-Point makes a darn good gun just to toss into the tool or tackle box and forget about until one of those odd occasions when having a gun in there just might prove to be serendipitous.
mattw
August 18, 2005, 03:22 PM
lol the 6 page post
worst thread I ever started..
Tropical Z
August 18, 2005, 03:53 PM
They aren't that hard to disassemble if you follow instructions.If you can't do it the second time you have problems.They just disassemble differently than most handguns.GEEZ! :banghead:
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