How rare is a Sig Sauer P6


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Pigspitter
March 21, 2008, 07:01 PM
I found a w.german sig p6(P225) in excellent condition at my local gun shop and I was wondering what you could tell me about these guns. I would also like to know how rare they are and what a reasonable price would be for one in excellent condition.

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NGIB
March 21, 2008, 07:05 PM
A lot of places are selling them for $260 - $300. Not rare at all but real nice shooters. They're German police surplus guns...

briang2ad
March 21, 2008, 07:05 PM
Is a selling point for CDNN and others selling them. There are MANY on the market right now, having just been imported, and quite a few this past year. It is a bit less desirable than the 225. To get a lighter trigger pull, you need a spring kit for about $30. They sell from $269 to $350 from the on-line dealers. I think the Exc condition ones from CDNN are going for $350, so add some shipping and a transfer fee.

rcmodel
March 21, 2008, 07:10 PM
Dan's Ammo has them for $259 and $299 depending on condition. Shipping is $20 bucks.

http://www.dansammo.com/firearms.asp

I got one in Dec. and it was for all practical purposes "New, in the box".

Came with box, book, two mags, two holsters, mag pouch, and a cleaning kit.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j219/rcmodel/KTOG/SIG1A.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j219/rcmodel/KTOG/SIG4.jpg


rcmodel

Pigspitter
March 21, 2008, 07:27 PM
okay, thanks for that advice. I was under the impression that it was rare because I don't see too many W.German guns on the market. The place I was at was selling it with two mags and a holster for $375

19-3Ben
March 21, 2008, 08:21 PM
$375 is a pretty good price if it is in good condition. Once you add in shipping and FFL transfer if buying over the intarwebz it's about right.

Chem Geek
March 21, 2008, 08:36 PM
$375 is a pretty good price if it is in good condition. Once you add in shipping and FFL transfer if buying over the intarwebz it's about right.

I'm always excited about how cheap they are, until I figure in the FFL and shipping. :rolleyes:

WayaX
March 21, 2008, 08:50 PM
If you want a Sig and can't afford one new in the U.S., this is a great alternative. From my understanding they have a light spring and a hammer that is designed to deform if the pistol is dropped on it (to prevent discharge maybe?). Other than those things (which I believe can be fixed with a trip to Sig or an armorer), they're a P225.

AirPower
March 22, 2008, 02:54 AM
It used to be rare thing, because it's official German police issue, so you don't really see many P6 marked Sigs. But like all things demand and supply turned that around with the German police dumping these and PW imported thousands of them. Now it's a glut. One day the price might come up again. Then again, it's an obsolete design, 8rd in a near full size handgun with alloy frame. You can do so much better with other choices, such as S&W M&P. It is a good shooter if that's what you're looking for.

evan price
March 22, 2008, 08:14 AM
AIM Surplus for $259, near new, with spare mag, case, holster, etc. This guy is ripping you off for $375- he probably got it from AIM!

Not a "rare" gun at all really. Just wasn't common in the US before a couple years ago. Like the C&R pistols are not "rare".

PO2Hammer
March 22, 2008, 04:28 PM
Just bought a rather rough P6 for $299. Lots of holster wear, not shot too much though.

highrider
March 23, 2008, 01:23 AM
From my understanding they have a light spring and a hammer that is designed to deform if the pistol is dropped on it

The springs are 24 lb and the double action trigger pull is brutal, but you can get 19 lb springs from Brownell that makes the trigger pull a lot more bearable. The single action pull isn't bad. I've heard a couple of theories on the hammer configuration, but the one that seems the most likely to me is that they were designed as a broken circle simply for hanging during finishing.

If you don't own a Sig and would like to get one, the P6 is a great start. Dan's Ammo is a very friendly and reliable outfit to deal with. You can give him a call and he will help you with any questions. Get yourself a P6 in good shape and you will have a very good shooting pistol for a good price.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b340/highrider98/IMG_2917-1.jpg

johnle
March 23, 2008, 03:33 AM
Nope it's not meant for hanging after finishing....

It's really meant to inform the armorer that the gun was dropped on the hammer and the gun needs to be broken down and examined.

highrider
March 23, 2008, 06:28 PM
Nope it's not meant for hanging after finishing....

It's really meant to inform the armorer that the gun was dropped on the hammer and the gun needs to be broken down and examined.


I would really like to know your sources for the above. What you are saying is that every P6 has been dropped - and on their hammer, at that. I may be mistaken but all the P6's I have seen have come with the broken circle hammer. And does it really make sense that a company is going to install a hammer to alert someone to install another hammer? As to my conjecture about the split hammer being for hanging while finishing, I'm not claiming this as fact, just the best explanation I have heard.

Again, please let us know the source for your "dropped gun" statement.

thanks

Pigspitter
March 23, 2008, 08:23 PM
I would really like to know your sources for the above. What you are saying is that every P6 has been dropped - and on their hammer, at that. I may be mistaken but all the P6's I have seen have come with the broken circle hammer. And does it really make sense that a company is going to install a hammer to alert someone to install another hammer? As to my conjecture about the split hammer being for hanging while finishing, I'm not claiming this as fact, just the best explanation I have heard.

Again, please let us know the source for your "dropped gun" statement.

thanks I think he means that the armorer will be able to tell if it has been dropped because the gap will have closed in the hammer.

Nasty
March 23, 2008, 08:54 PM
Read the manual that comes with it...if you can read German that is. The split is there so that if the weapon is dropped and falls on the hammer, the hammer will deform (in absorbing the force) instead of more delicate parts inside. The bulk of the hammer spur is sacrificial in this manner.

1BLINDREF
March 23, 2008, 11:09 PM
The cut in the hammer is there to let the armorer know wheather the gun has been dropped or not. The gap in the hammer will bend together.

$375.00 sounds a bit high for a P6. I've seen clean ones at gun shows in the $295 - $325 range consistantly.
Having said that, I saw one at a show that had a price tag of $675.00 :what:
That vendor went home with it at the end of the show ;)

ReadyontheRight
March 24, 2008, 12:04 AM
Great gun. Print out the Aim Surplus ad and show it to your dealer. Offer $300, settle for $320 and you have a pretty good deal.

highrider
March 24, 2008, 02:14 AM
The split is there so that if the weapon is dropped and falls on the hammer, the hammer will deform (in absorbing the force) instead of more delicate parts inside.

I can buy that. But I guess that when dropped and hits anywhere other than the hammer you just look for have to look for the scratches & dents. ;)

DirksterG30
March 24, 2008, 06:39 AM
Here's a good overview of the P225/P6: http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/Critical%20Look%20at%20SIG%20Sauer%20P225.htm

Nasty
March 24, 2008, 08:52 AM
The hammer question is written in the manual...read it for yourself.

strat81
March 24, 2008, 01:00 PM
I can buy that. But I guess that when dropped and hits anywhere other than the hammer you just look for have to look for the scratches & dents.
Scratches and dents are generally non-issues (just cosmetic). Dropping the gun on its hammer can screw up the sear and related trigger parts, IIRC. The notch closes if it's dropped on the hammer, thus indicating the pistol needs inspection (and a new hammer).

rcmodel
March 24, 2008, 01:59 PM
Other possible reasons for the hook:

* Teutonic Talisman to ward off evil?
* Raw Material Cost Reduction? (to get the low bid and beat out H-K)
* Original design ring-hammers all cracked there during heat-treating?
* CNC Programming Error?
* Hanger Hook for very small, but highly over-engineered German gun racks?
* Opens German Beer Bottles somehow?
* Cleaning Fingernails before daily Uniform Inspection?
* Can be easily straightened to produce "Hammer-Bite" like a 1911.

But, I'm just guessing. :D

rcmodel

1BLINDREF
March 24, 2008, 02:31 PM
* Opens German Beer Bottles somehow?


LOL - thats it!!!

mquaack
April 2, 2008, 02:37 AM
Highrider and Rcmodel -

Where did you get your P6.

They looks Brand New !

rcmodel
April 2, 2008, 01:32 PM
I got mine from Dan's Sporting Goods.

http://www.dansammo.com/firearms.asp

I think the Cherry's may have already been picked though.

rcmodel

Shadow1198
April 2, 2008, 04:48 PM
Rare I tell you. So rare in fact that you can now find them for the rare price of $260. ;)

Nasty
April 2, 2008, 08:33 PM
Anyone have one of the plainclothes holsters they don't need or want?

rust collector
April 3, 2008, 12:24 AM
Just a whole lot of fun for that kind of money. I heard someone mention 1400 imported, but don't know where that came from. They and the P-1s will sell out at some point and all of a sudden they will be appreciated.

Very usable as is, but I'll probably order an 18 lb spring and install at some point. Cost is more like $4 from Wolff. It is rumored that some have difficulty feeding hollow points, but my 83 model eats them just fine. Mine did not come with a holster or cleaning kit, but I've got what I need to clean it and it fits a holster already on hand.

Top Gun Supply
April 3, 2008, 10:37 AM
What has recently become rare are the P225/P6 magazines and some parts. SIG has decided to discontinue quite a few of the parts that are specific to the stamped slide models.

rcmodel
April 3, 2008, 01:37 PM
CDNN has surplus P6 mags by the boatload apparently.

I got some about a month ago and they came in SIG factory packaging, and were like brand new.

rcmodel

Seattlefungus
July 11, 2008, 01:55 AM
Well, I've bought from Dan's for a few years and I did buy one of the P6's. I got to say that the double action on mine is only around 12. The single is 4. Sweet. Shoot through 200 rounds. My two son's shooting all but two mags worth. A keeper. My two sons like it as number 2 on there list, Glock 27 being number one. (I let them shoot my Makarov and Radom P64. They experienced the P64 bite firsthand. The Sig was a lot of fun and ate all the 9mm hollowpoints we feed it. A real fun pistol and cheap too!

The Reverend
July 11, 2008, 01:35 PM
I own and carry a Sig Sauer P225 (not specifically a P6). Both are similar, but the true 225 is going to be more rare than a P6 and typically a better finished pistol.

czhen
July 11, 2008, 01:49 PM
If want a rare German pistol buy a P-38 for the same money, the P6 is attractive though

gtmerkley
July 11, 2008, 01:58 PM
Its my understanding there is no count becouse there still is production.

slovak
January 8, 2009, 12:28 AM
Just an FYI on the thread>

The German Customs and Federal Police P6's have been (or are being) replaced by HK P30's and "covers approximately 30,000 pistols... and has a target for completion by 2011."

So we should see a pile more at about $250... depending on the Wunder Brady contingent. Then it's a feeding frenzy for the nice ones.

Source: (http://www.heckler-koch.com/HKWebNews/byItemID///29/3/3/15)

tmerk
January 23, 2009, 05:45 PM
Just saw a Sig P6/P225 two-tone (K Cote) w/ Trijicon night sights, 2 mags, holster, mag pouch and original box for $495. Decent price? Thanks!

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