JC Higgins Model 33


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shootemup
March 21, 2008, 08:06 PM
Using information I gleaned from another thread into which i mistakenly hijacked, I have an update on my Dad's precious rifle....

Using a table for JC Higgins shotguns found in that thread, I reverse engineered my way to the rimfire section, and noticed they were using a XXX.XX identifier. Surely, there it was on the barrel of my rifle. The corresponding chart indicates:

Number
583.80

Model
33

Action
Pump

Roll Stamp Date
8/18/54

Is that the date of manufacture, thereabouts? And thanks for your help, MW- a little start was all I needed..... unless this is all way off base....

Shootemup

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John Stimson
March 21, 2008, 09:46 PM
The roll mark drawing date is the date of the drawing defining the roll mark die that was used to mark the barrels. After the drawing was released, the needed to production time to produce the roll mark as a minimum. Time could also elapse between that drawing date and the actual production based on the progress of making the actual parts.. Since the .80 was the second version of the model 33. I believe that teh .80 may be too early to have an assembly date code on the barrel which was begun in December 1956.

http://www.histandard.info/models/private/Sears/SearsRim.html

http://www.histandard.info/PDF/Sears%20Rifles.pdf

John Stimson
March 21, 2008, 10:01 PM
Hello moewadle,

While teh store brand guns were frequently clones of extant designs by a gun manufactruer, the Sears msot of the guns made by High Stadanrd for Sears were designs that Sears comissioned. High Standard designed, developed and tooled these guns at Sears expense. There was no equivalent models in teh High standard lineup when teh began selling these guns. later in the 1960's version s of teh Sears designs were sold under the High Standard name.

Unfortunately the Numrich Gun Parts Corp cross reference list is not particularly good when it comes to the Sears / Higgins. Ted Williams / High Standard guns The same is true for the guns High Standardr made for Kroydon, Western Hogee, Penny, Western Auto and a nearly two dozen lesser known private or semi private labeled models.

moewadle
March 21, 2008, 10:14 PM
thank you for the information. After I wrote what I did I saw that you, or someone, gave those details about High Standard working so much for Sears and not having their own models of that gun. So, many thanks for that knowledge sharing. I always say, "BUY THE BOOK BEFORE THE GUN (if there is a book and if not go to THR) KNOWLEDGE IS POWER."

John Stimson
March 22, 2008, 06:29 PM
I completely agree that knowledge is power. The difficulty comes when we must determine what book, if there is one, has the least errors or which contributor to a forum is a good source and which one is the creative writer ( BS artist)

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