"...is some stuff Federal made on contract. It is 9P1 and 9CP, according to Federal these are both 95gr 1330FPS from a 4" barrel. I got some of it just because it almost exactly replicates a handload..."
"When Cleveland Ohio PD first went to 9mm's in 1989, this was our first issue round. It worked fine in a couple shootings,..."
March 23, 2008, 10:58 AM
I believe the Illinois State Police, RCMP and some European Security Forces used this, or a very similar load back in the 80's.
If I remember correctly it was very over penetrative w/ inconsistent expansion, thus resulting in less than desirable anti-personnel performance....Though it did perform well against barriers, cars, etc.
There is at least one old ISP trooper and a couple of other guys on THR that could elaborate further.
March 23, 2008, 11:43 AM
The ISP carried that rd in 1979-1981. I still have a couple of boxes squirreled away. It worked pretty well as long as the person wasn't behind barriers. Where it had problems was when the person was in a car behind windows or car body panels and the rd would fragment easily or it wouldn't open at all.
It tended to be very accurate in our S&W 39s. It's OAL is shorter than the heavier rds which might cause feeding problems in some guns. That's something you'd want to check thoroughly and run quite a few trouble free rds thru your gun before you carry it.
If you knew for certain that when you needed the rd that the BG wasn't behind any kind of barrier then that rd would do the job nicely. However, since the circumstances of any future shooting situation is a complete unknown then I'd go with something else for defensive use.
You can see the OAL in this picture. The 95 gr is in the upper left corner. In the upper right corner is (from left to right) W-W 115 gr +P+ and Fed 115 BPLE. In the lower right is S&W 115 JHP.