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Steve Smith
December 21, 2002, 11:27 AM
Alright, folks, don't be shy...let's talk shootin'!

I'll start the ball rolling (in a Steve Smith kinda way). How many of you folks plan to shoot a Highpower or CMP match this year as a newbie?

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December 22, 2002, 09:42 PM
If you are talking about 2003, I am.

Right now I am accumulating the necessary stuff. Shooting jacket, better spotting scope etc. Then my CMP Garand are going for a visit. My gun club hosts monthly John C. Garand matches and first I will go to watch then I may try. Any suggestions?

Derek Zeanah
December 22, 2002, 09:47 PM
I'd give it a shot if I could find something in North Florida.

After the reports came back from the last 3-gun match, I'm really interested in that, but we're looking at the same problem...

December 22, 2002, 09:52 PM
Palm Bay is about 3 hours south of Jax. I make the drive fairly frequently. My son is stationed there (NAS Jax.)

PMR&PC has installed camper sites for use during matches. (Since I'm about 1.5 miles away I don't know much about them except that they are there and have 50 amp service.)

Chris Rhines
December 22, 2002, 10:30 PM
Yup. Not as a newbie, per se, but as a manifestly inept rifleman... :D

Hopefully I'll be able to sneak down to Atterbury and shoot the full 600-yd. course.

- Chris

Steve Smith
December 22, 2002, 11:09 PM
Derek, what town are you in? I'll have you at a match POST HASTE.'re in Jax...I'm on it.

December 23, 2002, 11:46 AM
I haven't had a chance to get into CMP yet. This year I'm planning on plenty of 3 gun and IDPA. One of these days I'll try hipower, I just need another 3 or 4 hours in the day. :)

Steve Smith
December 23, 2002, 05:15 PM
Derek, here's what I got for you. Let me know if you need more info. Also let me know what I have to do to get your butt out on the line.

(From the Florida Highpower Forums)

"Send him to the Gateway club in west Jax on the second Sunday of the month at 9AM. We shoot a 500 point NMC league match at 200 yards.
Joe Zullo

To follow up on Joe's post, he can go to the GRPC website and get more info:

Fred Robbins

Derek Zeanah
December 23, 2002, 05:17 PM
"Send him to the Gateway club in west Jax on the second Sunday of the month at 9AM. We shoot a 500 point NMC league match at 200 yards.
Joe Zullo

Cool. Now I'll check things out and see what rifles are allowed.


Steve Smith
December 23, 2002, 05:20 PM
Derek, hope you're still around. I can discuss that with you. Do you have an M1 Garand, M1A, or AR15 WITHOUT a muzzle brake? A bolt gun that you can reload rapidly (stripper clips) will also work.

BTW, there is a LOT of HP in North Florida.

Derek Zeanah
December 23, 2002, 05:23 PM
I _had_ both of the former, now I've got the latter (Armalite M15 upper -- probably counts as a muzzle break).

I'll see what I can come up with.

Steve Smith
December 23, 2002, 06:31 PM
Avoid anything with a brake. The matches like you'll attend aren't really strict on the rules, but that is one that we are all serious about.

December 24, 2002, 02:47 PM
Actually, I'm hoping to start both in 2003. I began IDPA matches this past summer and fall and can hardly wait to begin rifle matches.

Guess I'll have to start hanging out more in this forum to begin learning about high power and CMP matches. Is there a site(s?) that have the basic low-down on required equipment / courses-of-fire and all that?

FWIW: I'm already planning on purchasing a decent spotting scope and shooting mat (maybe a "drag-bag"/matt combo).

Steve Smith
December 24, 2002, 06:25 PM
Well, there used to be a good website for that, but it went Tango Uniform ;) about a year ago. I guess I'll have to make a list of things. I'll try to do that over the course of the next few days.

December 24, 2002, 06:26 PM
Gainesville Target Range in Alachua County Florida ( is the url), hosts monthly high power CMP competitions. The next match is scheduled for Sat Jan4 at 9AM.

December 24, 2002, 07:20 PM
If all goes well, I should have my M1A loaded version by April. I figure 4 or 5 months after that to accesorize, work up load data, and practice. After that, I'll probably look to get into a couple local matches just for the fun of it. If I actually start doing well, I may considering shelling out more cash and getting into serious competition, but I'd prefer to keep things friendly and within the budget.

Steve Smith
December 24, 2002, 11:44 PM
You only need one accessory for that rifle in Highpower, and that's a good sling. Get on the line Marine!

(Always wanted to say that!) :D

Neil Casper
December 25, 2002, 01:31 AM
Been shooting IDPA all winter so far. Several places shoot indoor matches that are within a one or two hour drive from my home. The closest is about a 45 minute drive and I go there five times a month to compete in local matches.
Like they say-It's all good!

December 25, 2002, 02:18 AM
I'm planning to shoot some Highpower as well as long Range Rifle at West End Gun Club (San Bernardino, CA) this coming year. I've been concentrating on pistol the last few months, with only a once-a-month 3-Gun match for rifle (and I'm using the M1A for that, which means I'm in it for the experience and practice mostly!:rolleyes: )

As to muzzle brakes: uh, here in the Peoples' Democratic Republic of Kalifornistan M1A's are legal ONLY with the "CA muzzle brake"; the Evil Flash Hider is Taboo according to the shamans and inquisitors of our State Religion (i.e.: the socialists in Sacramento.) How does that affect us for CMP or 'legit' Highpower competitions?

Jon Coppenbarger
December 25, 2002, 08:46 AM
steve: thank you for inviting me over here as this looks like a nice site.
I think I still owe someone a mag but do not have a address yet.

steve the kowa 821m is on its way already so help me pick out a good stand for it.

glad no matches this weekend as its to cold and to much snow.

thanks jon

Steve Smith
December 25, 2002, 09:48 AM
TCDrennen, that is a dang good question. I'll get you an answer.

Jon, welcome aboard. I thought you have that Giraud stand coming??

December 25, 2002, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by Steve Smith
You only need one accessory for that rifle in Highpower, and that's a good sling. Get on the line Marine!

(Always wanted to say that!) :D Thanks for the advice Steve. I never fired below a 235 in the Marines for the 5 years I was in, so I know the value of a tight loop sling. Any recommendations on which one to get for the M1A?

Steve Smith
December 25, 2002, 11:30 AM
Ever have one of those times when you buy what is considered "the best" and a short time afterward something else comes out that blows it away? Welcome to my life. I have two Les Tam custom leather slings...easily the BEST leather 1907 style slings on the market...each handmade after a call to Les the maker for personal build info. Beautiful leather, strong keepers, you name it. It shames the Turner leather slings. Now Turner has come out with their "Biothane" sling that is CMP and NRA Service Rifle approved. Wow. It looks like a black leather 1907 sling, but it has a tacky rubber like texture. Solid. No numbers on the holes, but a fine tipped soldering iron could fix that easily. If you feel like you might get into competition, and you want an awesome sling, get that biothane. Its something else. I think Sinclair is selling it.

January 11, 2003, 11:02 PM
Doing my first 300 meter match tomorrow morning with my Garand. It's supposed to be -4 tonight and I had a terrible time practicing and sighting in with 30+ mph winds last week. I'm still quite the newbie to highpower, but I sure like shooting for a score. I've just got to work on learning the ropes and getting those scores higher.

Jon Coppenbarger
January 12, 2003, 12:44 PM
:uhoh: it sounds cold to me but if you are going to go shoot in that weather you have the dedication to keep going and to improve a long way.

when it warms up you will see alot more folks and you will have alot of fun but you take each match like practice for the next match.

what is the distance that you will shoot in this match, 100yard , 200 yards?

if you ever need any info on any aspect of highpower please ask and that goes from positions to courses of fire to equipment and anything else that involves any type of service rifle highpower matches please just ask as you do have some folks here that will help in any way they can.

and about the scores I remember my first match years ago and out of about 30 folks I think I finished second from last but I loved it and it made me want to do it again and again.
I also shot a garand at the begining and love that weapon.

if its windy do not worry because it will be windy for everybody and there are a few tricks to shooting in the wind and on the positions in the wind, but I do know what you mean as I finnally after about 2 months of trying to get some shooting not in the wind I finnally got to do it last week as I was trying a my backup rifle with new loads and found out its shoots great instead of getting blown all over the target.

let us know how you did and if you have any questions after the match please ask.
I know steve smith will give you some great advice as he is very good at service rifle highpower .
and I also will give you any info on the sport that you would like also and no question is to strange and there are some very small basics in every position thats will help your scores rise quickly.

thanks jon

Jon Coppenbarger
January 12, 2003, 01:01 PM
oopps I guess I should pay more to what you said.
300 meters I see . well that most likely means you will shoot at 200 for the off hand and then also for the rapid sitting and then move back for the 300 rapid prone and 600 reduced prone.

to help with your sight ins and to get you centered on the target here are some come-ups for your highpower targets over the course of fire.
this formula works for .223, 7.62 (308) and 30-06. it will get you on paper and alot of the time in the black. caliber, bullet or velocity doesn't matter.
as you get to know your wepon you can fine tune this but it does work.

you normally have to touch up the elevation at 600 yards but the 200 and 300 come-ups are usually in the 10 and x rings no matter what rifle you are shooting.

#1 from a 100 yard zero come up 2 minutes for 200 yards

#2 from a 200 yard zero come up 3 minutes for 300 yards

#3 from a 300 yard zero come up 12 minutes for 600 yards

#4 from a 300 yard zero come up 7 minutes for 500 yards

#5 from a 500 yard zero come up 5 minutes for 600 yards

January 13, 2003, 12:12 PM
I intend to masquerade as a highpower shooter again this year. Now I just have to find my camping mattress pads and my crappy spotting scope, and make up some more reloads, and I'm back in business.

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