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K3
March 23, 2008, 09:16 AM
Anybody know if/where I can get extra magazines for the Schmidt Rubin? I did a web search and had no luck, though I did find stripper clip type loaders.

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SnakeEater
March 23, 2008, 10:18 AM
I found a few places within 2 minutes of searching on yahoo. Search for "K31 magazine". Expect to pay a very high price~$60.

http://www.jocoemprise.com/rifles/schmidtruben.html

http://www.e-gunparts.com/DisplayAd.asp?chrProductSKU=762840&chrSuperSKU=&MC=

jkingrph
March 23, 2008, 10:34 AM
You will not find many out there. The Swiss did not issue extra magazines or provide ammo in magazines. The guns were loaded with the magazine in place using the stripper clips. Another point, the magazines were serial numbered to the individual rifle, only one magazine per rifle.

takhtakaal
March 23, 2008, 11:40 AM
It was an Article 15-type offense to be found with a magazine not serialized to your rifle, and it was strictly one-per. All loading was done from stripper.

mrmeval
March 23, 2008, 12:47 PM
Numrich has them for 57.75.
http://www.e-gunparts.com/DisplayAd.asp?chrProductSKU=762840&chrSuperSKU=&MC=

Same magazine was installed in import rifles where the importer yanked the original magazines and resold them.

The strippers actually work well for being made of aluminum and paper.

Mikee Loxxer
March 23, 2008, 01:14 PM
I have never been able to figure out why people have this idea that an SMLE or K31 should be like an AK or AR in that you reload via magazine change. They were designed to be loaded from strippers.

The K31 strippers work great and are quite durable (in spite of being made of tin and wax coated cardboard).

Trebor
March 23, 2008, 01:58 PM
Who has the best price on K-31 strippers?

K3, you mentioned you found strippers. Where?

candr44
March 23, 2008, 03:38 PM
The K31 stripper clips do work great unless you have a scope mounted. Then they don't work at all.

Mikee Loxxer
March 23, 2008, 06:36 PM
The K31 was never supposed to be a scoped rifle.

Soybomb
March 23, 2008, 07:35 PM
The K31 was never supposed to be a scoped rifle.
Actually some were issued with scopes, the swiss army manual even talks about them. They had two models with offset scopes, one 1.8x, one 2.8x. The manual talks about inserting the charger at a slight angle for loading.

Dave R
March 23, 2008, 09:05 PM
The K31 stripper clips do work great unless you have a scope mounted. Then they don't work at all.You can put a scout scope on a K-31, and the stripper clips will still work fine. I used my K-31 with scout scope to take my first hog.

K3
March 24, 2008, 10:30 AM
Who has the best price on K-31 strippers?

K3, you mentioned you found strippers. Where?

Ordered 6 from Sportsman's Guide. About $18. Hopefully they don't suck.

K3
March 24, 2008, 10:32 AM
I have never been able to figure out why people have this idea that an SMLE or K31 should be like an AK or AR in that you reload via magazine change. They were designed to be loaded from strippers.

The K31 strippers work great and are quite durable (in spite of being made of tin and wax coated cardboard).

And I can't understand why you give a rat's ass. It's my rifle, and if I want to load it a certain way, that's my choice. Fair enough?

Numrich has them for 57.75.
http://www.e-gunparts.com/DisplayAd....rSuperSKU=&MC=

I think I'll pass on that. It's a $175 rifle. :)

Tortuga12
March 24, 2008, 10:35 AM
I fail to see why common courtesy goes out the window when people converse on a forum. Anonymity does not grant an unalienable right to boorishness!

arthurcw
March 24, 2008, 10:50 AM
From the jocoemprise link above:

Find Swiss K31 magazines in 8 round capacity. Thanks for stopping by

:confused: typo? Or did someone go and make 8 round mags for the k31?

Acheron
March 24, 2008, 10:56 AM
As previously mentioned, spare magazines for K31s are very hard to find as the rifles were issued with only one magazine and reloaded via stripper clips. Any magazines on the market are either going to be shoddy copies or very expensive originals. The strippers themselves are relatively cheap, typically around $3-4 US and are reusable for quite some time.

K3
March 24, 2008, 11:21 AM
I fail to see why common courtesy goes out the window when people converse on a forum. Anonymity does not grant an unalienable right to boorishness!

Nor did I need a comment questioning my reasoning for wanting an extra mag for a rifle. If a person's choice is not to load his rifle the way I might want to, I won't make a smart aleck comment to him about it. He shouldn't have done that to me to begin with. My comment was in response.

K3
March 24, 2008, 11:26 AM
As previously mentioned, spare magazines for K31s are very hard to find as the rifles were issued with only one magazine and reloaded via stripper clips. Any magazines on the market are either going to be shoddy copies or very expensive originals. The strippers themselves are relatively cheap, typically around $3-4 US and are reusable for quite some time.

As I said before, I ordered 6 from SG. Hopefully they are good. The price is right in line with what you are saying.

By 'quite some time', do you mean years? A dozen loadings? I guess at $3 a pop, I could live with 12 loadings. I know SKS stripper clips are something like a buck a piece, maybe less, but are metal and in my experience pretty durable.

I'd like to use my K-31 at an Appleseed because I can actually use those irons with good effect, but I need to be able to load it a little quicker. If the 6 strippers I bought work well, I'l probably get another dozen.

cracked butt
March 24, 2008, 11:28 AM
I bought my first K-31 to shoot in high power matches, I bought a second K-31 at the same time so that I had a spare magazine for reloads- charger clips weren't all that common at that time either.


And yes, the K-31 is similar tot he enfield in that magazines aren't supposed to be changed, but unlike the enfield, K-31 magazines aren't cobbled together affairs and wil interchange between rifles and still work.

Actually some were issued with scopes, the swiss army manual even talks about them. They had two models with offset scopes, one 1.8x, one 2.8x. The manual talks about inserting the charger at a slight angle for loading.

The K-31 based sniper rifles also had the entire receiver offset inside the stock- actually rotated within the stock so that a scope could be mounted straight over the bore line and so that the chargers would still work.

K3
March 24, 2008, 11:31 AM
The K-31 based sniper rifles also had the entire receiver offset inside the stock- actually rotated within the stock so that a scope could be mounted straight over the bore line and so that the chargers would still work.

Saw a guy at the range with a sporterized K-31. He had a scope mounted, but it was offset on a mount that required no permanent mods to the rifle. Kinda cool actually. I only recognized it as a K-31 when I saw the bolt assembly. It looked more like a Remmy with the stock he had on it.

RenardSubtil
March 24, 2008, 12:34 PM
on the Swissrifles.com forums there's a pretty good thread on the first two pages that go into some detail on how people were adding some kind of coating to the cardboard on the Swiss stripper clips to make them more durable.

Personally, I'm using a set of metal Mosin Nagant stripper clips - they work okay and I can only fit 4 rounds at a time. Plus, they'll double their use when I eventually find a Finn M39 :D

Technosavant
March 24, 2008, 02:11 PM
Saw a guy at the range with a sporterized K-31. He had a scope mounted, but it was offset on a mount that required no permanent mods to the rifle. Kinda cool actually.

I have one of those mounts on mine. St. Marie Graphics (http://www.swissrifles.com/~swiss-sights/) pioneered the mount, but others have been duping for a couple years at least. It clamps right on, holds securely, leaves no marks, and does not negatively affect function of the rifle.

K3
March 24, 2008, 02:14 PM
I have one of those mounts on mine. St. Marie Graphics pioneered the mount, but others have been duping for a couple years at least. It clamps right on, holds securely, leaves no marks, and does not negatively affect function of the rifle.

Does the offset of the scope bother you much?

The other guy invited me to shoot some of my mil-surp ammo out of his rifle b/c he was having light primer strikes with his handloads (another story). The offset seemed a little awkward to me, but not terribly so.

cracked butt
March 24, 2008, 02:20 PM
Suprisingly, the offset fits a righthanded shooter perfectly, but won't work all that great for a lefthanded shooter (I had a lefthanded friend try to shoot it, and he couldn't make it work.) I actually tilt the rifle slightly counterclockwise when shooting it with the scope, so I mounted the crosshairs turned slightly clockwise so that they are plumb and level in my shooting position.

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GD
March 24, 2008, 02:51 PM
The Swiss stripper clips are among the best I have ever used. They really outperform the Enfield, maser, or mosin stripper clips. They go in very smoothly. They go in much faster than putting in another magazine.

Technosavant
March 24, 2008, 02:58 PM
Does the offset of the scope bother you much?


Surprisingly, no. You do have to alter your hold a bit; you can either tilt the rifle or just incline your head a bit. The one thing you do have to ensure is that you have the muzzle cap removed before firing. Using the irons it is immediately apparent if it is still on. With a scope, you'll never see it. More than one guy (not me, but others have related this) has launched his muzzle cap downrange since they forgot it was on there.

K3
March 24, 2008, 02:58 PM
GD:

Do you feel like they're pretty durable?

redactor
March 24, 2008, 04:12 PM
Who has the best price on K-31 strippers?
Dan's ammo at http://www.dansammo.com has the best price on both the chargers and GP11.

Headless
June 18, 2009, 03:34 PM
Does anyone know where I can get stripper clips for my K-31? It looks like dansammo stopped selling them at some point.

ChronoCube
June 18, 2009, 03:40 PM
Several places online are selling them if you search but most seem expensive.

Here's one that seems reasonably priced (lot of 10):
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=131813640

Headless
June 18, 2009, 03:50 PM
ahh, nice. Thanks alot, i'll get those :) I can't wait for the k31 to get here.

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