New Gun. What to do with spent casings?


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Redlg155
August 10, 2003, 01:28 AM
Fellow Shooters,

I just picked up a new Glock 26 today and lo and behold, spent casings were included. I also got a nice letter from the freindly Attorney General in Massachussetts. I can't believe they put such a stupid message and Glock even gave them their own little card to put it on.

So now the question...what to do with the spent casings since I don't have to turn them in?

Hmmmmm..so far I can think of,

1. Stick em in my ears for earplugs.

2. In my nostrils to guard against funky odors.

3. Freeze them in ice for party favors.

4. Just chunk em in the ol reloading bucket.

5. Use them to seperate my toes so my corns don't rub.

6. Feed em to my dog and see how long they take to come back out.

7. Just go ahead and mail em to the Attorney General in Mass anyway.

8. Use them for used chewing gun storage.

9. Use them as cutters to make mini cookies.

10. Market them as nipple protectors and sell them on Ebay.


hmmm..anyone else have any ideas ? :D

Good Shooting
Red

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Mike Irwin
August 10, 2003, 01:55 AM
Mail them to the Attorney General with a "choke on them and die :cuss: hole" note?

Hkmp5sd
August 10, 2003, 02:26 AM
Glock even gave them their own little card to put it on.

Glock doesn't do that voluntarily. In some states the manufacturer must include spent casings with a gun being tranferred to a FFL in that state for resale.

For those that like to create head games amongst the rulers, if you have to turn in spent casings, send them 3-4 cases, each from a different gun.

C.R.Sam
August 10, 2003, 07:37 AM
Put em in the AG's hubcaps.

Sam

Matt1911
August 10, 2003, 08:13 AM
DON'T FEED THEM TO YOUR DOG!!!It takes 3 days and it ain't pretty!!

Iain
August 10, 2003, 08:17 AM
I agree, don't feed them to the dog!

If you must scientifically test that theory (and lord knows people test more stupid ones - what happens to dogs when you heat them up springs to mind) feed them to the neighbours dog.

As a Brit - what is this about sending spent cases that come with the gun to the authorities? Ballistic fingerprinting?

dakotasin
August 10, 2003, 08:18 AM
mail 'em in. don't be afraid to throw in another dozen or so for free.

TheOtherOne
August 10, 2003, 08:50 AM
Yeah, ballistic fingerprinting so that cops can catch the DC sniper (from what the media told me in all their wisdom). I thought it was for Maryland though.

I still keep mine in the case tucked in their nice little vanilla envelope. It wasn't until I had read a few posts on different gun sites that I even knew what they were for. I just thought Glock decided to include the casings to show me the consumer that it had been test fired successfully.

greyhound
August 10, 2003, 09:13 AM
Yep , we have it in MD. When I bought my (new) Ruger 97, the FFL dutifully removed the little envelope from the gun box and sent it off to the Md State Police where they spent my tax dollars to catalog it.

To the best of my knowledge, ballistic fingerprinting hasn't solved 1 crime here in Md. The cost of this dumb program, which does nothing to actually prevent crime, could have been much better spent if you ask me.

However, it does sound all high-tech and "CSI", so it makes the sheeple feel more secure.:banghead:

MicroBalrog
August 10, 2003, 09:52 AM
Yes, some states have ballistic fingerprinting.
http://www.flashbunny.org/content/fingerprint.html

Quantrill
August 10, 2003, 10:22 AM
Redlg 155,
If it had not been for your most inventive uses for those cases, my blood pressure would have risen to unacceptable levels. Thank goodness for our humor in the face of such adversity. Quantrill

Redlg155
August 10, 2003, 10:43 AM
Glock doesn't do that voluntarily. In some states the manufacturer must include spent casings with a gun being tranferred to a FFL in that state for resale.

Ahh..but there was an additional card besides the fingerprint card.

WARNING FROM THE MASSACHUSETTS ATTORNEY GENERAL

This handgun is not equipped with a device that full blocks use by unauthorized users. More than 200,000 handguns like this one are stolen from their owners each and every year in the United States. In addition, there are more than a thousand suicides each year by younger children and teenagers who get access to firarms. Hundreds more die from accidental discharge. It is likely that many more children sustain serious wounds, or inflict such wounds accidently on others. In order to limit the chance of misuse, it is imperative that you keep this weapon locked in a secure place and take other steps necessary to limit the possibility of theft or accident. Failure to take reasonable preventive steps may result in innocent lives being lost, and in some circumstances may result in your liability for these deaths.

Well..there ya go. I had also thought it was Maryland that required the casings be turned in. I guess the Attorney General in Massachusetts felt left out and wanted to put something in for himself. He forgot to add something about the teenage gangbangers killing each other everyday because their parents are irresponsible clouts that can't control their children using guns purchased illegally or stolen from law abiding owners. But then I guess that's not politically correct. :rolleyes:

Hmm...anyway, more uses.

11. Use them for bath indicators. Hang em around my neck and when they tarnish, it's time to take a bath again..dang.

12. I don't know quite how to give a cat a pill, but dangit..he needs a couple of these.

13. Collect enough of them from my buddies and make a pan flute thingie.

14. Mini shot glasses for folks who can't hold their liquor.

15. Call Glock and tell them I lost them. Could they perhaps send me a couple more?

Good SHooting
Red

Tim Burke
August 10, 2003, 10:46 AM
Pretty soon you are going to have more spent casings than you know what to do with...

Hkmp5sd
August 10, 2003, 11:21 AM
Wow. Hadn't seen that bit of useless information before. I wonder what they did or threatened to do to Glock to get that included in the box. In a couple of years, they will probably require it stamped on the slide or barrel.

Someone needs to send him a copy of The Bias Against Guns by John Lott, that totally debunks his entire message. Of course, he'd probably require the services of a proctologist to clear the blocked vision before being able to read the book.

MountainPeak
August 10, 2003, 03:32 PM
Probably didn't have to threaten Glock about anything. I think it was in the 2000 Annual where Gaston was bragging about volunteering for a ballistics finger print program.

Zundfolge
August 10, 2003, 03:40 PM
Just reload 'em and use 'em over and over again in as many different guns as possible.

goon
August 10, 2003, 08:38 PM
Better yet, go down to the local gunstore and buy some used brass from another gun.
Mail a peice of that in to them
:D

Standing Wolf
August 10, 2003, 08:54 PM
I'd reload the cartridge cases and throw away any gun locks that were included.

Hardtarget
August 10, 2003, 10:14 PM
Go find a torch and melt them into little round brass balls...then send them in. That might give them something to think about for two seconds.
Mark.

4v50 Gary
August 10, 2003, 10:54 PM
Melt them down and make brass triggerguards, buttplates, sideplates, nosecaps, pipes, inlays, escutcheons or if you save enough brass up, a 12 pd Napoleon cannon. :)

Graystar
August 11, 2003, 12:14 AM
Keep it and don't open it. If you ever want to sell the gun at a place like gunbroker.com, you'll increase your audience by noting that you still have the sealed case.

In states like NY, if the gun doesn't have a spent case then the owner has to pay an FFL something like 40 bucks to take the gun to a special location where the state fires it and takes a case. Obviously, having the original spent case is a money-saver for anyone who happens to live in one of these states.

Coronach
August 11, 2003, 12:20 AM
Mail them to HCI, postage due.

Mike :D

280PLUS
August 11, 2003, 04:11 PM
:D

Futo Inu
August 11, 2003, 04:25 PM
OK, it's part of a "ballistic fingerprinting" system, but what are you SUPPOSED to do with them?!? Why give them to you at all? Does the gov't there think that those same criminals who obey the "no guns allowed" signs, are going to also turn in a few extra shell casings (hell, along with the crime gun - why not?) when they commit a crime, to help the state prepare a case against them? Surely the state keeps a few, to nail down which gun was used, in the event of a crime, and in the event empty shell casings are at the crime scene - and that much makes sense. But what's the point of giving YOU some? To show you that the system is in place, as a kind of warning that you'd better not commit a crime with the gun? How many cases were given to you with the gun? Very :confused: (as per usual).

And, if you're going to sell the gun on gunbroker.com or similar, as mentioned, to someone in NY or a place where the state wants a shell casing, what's to stop you from putting in just any ol' shell casing into the bag, if one were a criminal? I mean, even if there's a seal, couldn't a criminal just say that he had to take one out when he bought the gun, in order to give it to state X, the state he lives in.

Dave R
August 11, 2003, 05:28 PM
Some good options here. Here's another suggestion. Send them in.

Then polish your chamber and replace your extractor. :rolleyes:

Sharpie1
August 11, 2003, 11:17 PM
Either reload them, or throw them away.

TD

Sean Cloherty
August 12, 2003, 11:59 AM
DO NOT SEND THEM TO THE A.G.!

Spent casings are treated like firearms (no not like live ammo - like firearms :banghead: ) and I would assume that the jackass would try to make your life miserable.


Just write a polite note telling him to take some time off the job for his much needed surgery for recto-cranial inversion.

blue86buick
August 12, 2003, 08:57 PM
When I read the title, I thought you meant you had gotten your first gun, and were wondering what to do with all the spent brass you were generating. :confused:

45R
August 12, 2003, 09:19 PM
Send them in. Then polish your chamber and replace your extractor

:scrutiny: The empty casing contacts other parts of the gun your missing. Such as the breechface and firing pin. :neener:

Bigjake
August 12, 2003, 09:35 PM
i like the idea of realoding them, and shooting them through as many guns as possible and then sending them in.

Weimadog
August 13, 2003, 01:23 AM
Polish and buff them until they are nice and shiney! Use 60 grit sandpaper and work your way up to 600 grit, then polishing compound!
Then, send them in to the Attorney General!

Weimadog

Coronach
August 13, 2003, 02:09 AM
Futo Inu,

I think they're included with all guns by some manufacturers. That way they dont' have to seperate shipments going to one state and make sure the casings are included. The FFL in the states requiring casings are supposed to ship the casings to the state crime lab (or some place else) along with the buyer's information. If your FFL isn't required to do that, he probably leaves them in the box...after all, you paid for 'em.

I think.

Mike

mwithers72
August 13, 2003, 04:15 PM
A friend of mine got a new H&K .40 and it came with two spent caseings and we both thought that it was to show that the pistol had been test fired. He has not to my knowledge sent the caseing to anyone.

I have one question. I am new to handguns just started shooting this year so this question may seem to "newbie". How can they tell that a case came from one pistiol or another. I always thought that the rifleing was the main way to ID a gun. Are the bullits sent to them along with a S/N ? will a pistol make different markings on a case as it ejects that another pistol of the same manufacturing and model with the same stile of ejecter? (basicly two pistols made by same manufacture at the same time with identical parts) sorry if this question is to long.


mark

TheOtherOne
August 13, 2003, 04:48 PM
will a pistol make different markings on a case as it ejects that another pistol of the same manufacturing and model with the same stile of ejecter? (basicly two pistols made by same manufacture at the same time with identical parts) sorry if this question is to long.Supposedly there are microscopic differences between each gun that they can detect and that's what makes it like a fingerprint. The whole flaw with the system though is that these microscopic differences will change over time as the gun gets used.

SDC
August 13, 2003, 06:34 PM
If the report I read today (in the Spring issue of the AFTE/Association of Firearms & Toolmarks Examiners Journal) is anything to go by, those cases probably didn't even come out of YOUR pistol; they did an experiment on 15 brand-new pistols (Glocks) that were issued to a local police force, complete with 2 fired casings. In 11 of the 15 cases, one or both of the supplied cases WEREN'T FIRED IN THE PISTOLS THEY WERE SHIPPED WITH :) . Things that make you go "Hmmmmm."

mwithers72
August 14, 2003, 09:33 AM
Well the law or what ever it is. Is stupid, all it is going to do is track the purchases of legitimate law abiding people. Do they thank that a bad guy will walk into a local gun shop and buy the gun he wants to use in his next crime!!:banghead:

BHPshooter
August 14, 2003, 10:38 AM
You could always do what I did...

I call it "Brasshenge." :D

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=432565

Wes

RustyHammer
August 14, 2003, 11:00 AM
Gator,

I like it.

Rusty

mwithers72
August 14, 2003, 12:57 PM
That is very creative!!!:D

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