M1 carbine appreciation thread


March 24, 2008, 01:13 PM
Just picked up my first M1 carbine from a guy unloading two of them to make a quick buck. He had an Inland and an IBM, both non-import marked. After considerable agonizing (the Inland's stock had prettier walnut), I chose the IBM because it seemed to have less wear at the muzzle crown, as measured by an informal "bullet" check. The seller must have been pretty desparate, because he also threw in seven magazines (three USGI 15-rounders, three "Made in USA" 30 rounders and a tiny Numrich 5 rounder), 150 rounds of ammo and a few mag holders and whatnot.

The rifle is a GI mixmaster ("RIA EB" rebuild cartouche on the stock), with an IBM receiver, IBM barrel (marked "7-43") and a variety pack of GI parts from most of the major players (Inland trigger group, Saginaw slide, Winchester flat bolt). It's got the adjustable rear sight and bayonet lug, so it's no longer in its original WWII configuration.

Here's some impressions from an M1 carbine newbie:

--I was really impressed by the simplicity of the design. Not a gunsmith by any stretch, but I was able to take the little rifle all the way down and reassemble it without instructions.

--The gun handles like a dream. It's light, elegant and points well, if a tad short for me.

--Recoil's close to nonexistant. I haven't fired mine yet, but I did run a bunch of rounds through a buddy's a couple of weeks back.

Strange that the concept of the "PDW" was nearly perfected so long ago.

Quick question: when I took it apart, the gas tappet did not seem to move back and forth on its own. Is this normal? There was no visible rust on the gun.

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M2 Carbine
March 24, 2008, 02:58 PM
I'm a big fan of M1 Carbines.

Back in 1962 my (future) Wife liked the Carbine so well She claimed it for Her own.:)

Quick question: when I took it apart, the gas tappet did not seem to move back and forth on its own. Is this normal?
Don't worry about it unless the gun isn't functioning correctly.

At the next gun show you might want to pick up a gas piston nut wrench ($10) and a bolt tool ($25) and a couple extractors ($8).

The extractor is the weakest part of the Carbine. You may never break one and you could be like me and break 2 in one week.

This is one of my friends shooting one of my Carbines.
(click on picture)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/Video/th_P1010099.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/Video/?action=view&current=P1010099.flv)

March 24, 2008, 03:21 PM
Thanks, M2. Saw your video--wanna trade?;)

M2 Carbine
March 24, 2008, 03:39 PM
Probably not.:)

Shame we can't legally "manufacture" full auto any more. M1 to M2 was a very easy parts change/addition conversion.

Too bad I didn't register two or three back then.:(

March 24, 2008, 04:04 PM
Real military Carbines have always been are a bit pricey but I have an IMI built on an Iver Johnson reciever I bought about 8-9yrs ago that I love. Fun little rifle.

March 24, 2008, 06:09 PM
Neat little gun. Light and handy in a repro folding stock. Think of it as a rimmless .327 Magnum.

March 24, 2008, 07:07 PM
Love my '43 inland. Great for anyone to shoot. Light, handy, and actually quite accurate. W/ an ultimak mount and an aimpoint, it makes a great hd firearm, with soft points of course.

March 24, 2008, 07:25 PM
I have a 43 Inland also, bought it from a 3 war vet , it was sold to the public at the end of WW2. Very accurate gun ,can hit a 15 inch steel plate at 200 yards when I use the sandbags. Paid 300 for it 2 years ago.

March 24, 2008, 08:41 PM
When I got mine from the CMP last year, the gas piston did not move either. I think the first or second round I shot through it resulted in a fail to extract. It ran fine after that initial hiccup. When I took it down to clean it, I found the piston now moved freely.

April 7, 2008, 01:07 AM
I love .30 carbines and have several. I was happy to find this little thread, but has it died out??? Don't more people have .30 carbines lying around? Anybody have one they don't want?...say an IBM, Rock-Ola, Winchester, Un-Quality???

M2 Carbine: Nice little video!...and a nice Mak collection you have. What carbines do you have, if you don't mind me asking?...I really am searching for the ones listed above in that order at a reasonable price.

April 7, 2008, 01:16 AM
how much are these rifles worth?

April 7, 2008, 07:22 AM
CMP is getting about $595 now for a Service Grade Winchester . . . . .so the dealers that resell the damn things :( get about $800 it seems around here. I got mine from CMP and wouldn't part with it.


April 7, 2008, 08:33 AM
Last gunshow I attended earlier this year they were all just over $700.00 for the re-impoorts. They aren't "worth" that much...the average shooter "should" be around $200.00 with the rare ones around $500.00-$800.00 but you won't find one...at that price a collector could afford to put together all the different makers. Any original or any restored one in like new condition are over $1000.00 now. I saw a select-fire(M2) on a website auction last week for $7,990.00. Ticks me off since I got halfway through the series collecting WWII relics and then they all tripled in price...even the CMP price is a gouge.

April 7, 2008, 09:08 AM
Hmm, I agree that the M1 Carbine is underrated and overpriced right now. Even the new Auto Ordnance carbines are a bit steep.

I have mentioned this in other threads (click on my name to find them), but I would love to see someone come out with a simple, modern carbine in the .30 carbine and 5.7x28mm FN and maybe common auto pistol calibers.

The price of AR-type rifles is just outrageous, and not everone can or wants to have a "black rifle." The closest equivalent to an inexpensive, new M1 Carbine seems to be the Saiga carbines.

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