John Mosier
March 24, 2008, 10:44 PM
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/newsletter/0205fflnewsletter.pdf
Hello all,
Just a newbie here with a few questions. These topics may have been kicked around already but bear with me anyway. What are everyone’s thoughts about shotgun primers and felons rights? I found a BATF news letter that seems to pretty much sum it up. Apparently they are exempted, making the majority of "inline" muzzleloaders exempt from the GCA.
What else should I be aware of?
k_dawg
March 24, 2008, 11:28 PM
IIRC: the FIREARM that uses shotgun primers is "exempt". However, the shotgun primers themselves are still under CGA.
Although antique firearms are not subject to GCA controls, dealers should be aware that ammunition, including shotgun primers, is still subject to GCA controls. Persons who are otherwise prohibited from
possessing firearms may purchase and possess antique firearms; however, such persons are still prohibited from possessing and receiving ammunition, including shotgun primers, as provided in sections 922(g) and (n)
of the GCA respectively. Such persons may possess ammunition for antique firearms such as percussion caps, minie balls, and 50 pounds or less of black powder for sporting, recreational, or cultural purposes.
jaholder1971
March 25, 2008, 12:32 PM
It also varies from state to state.
When you are dumb enough to become a felon, the rules change against your favor. What may not even be considered a firearm in the hands of a law abiding citizen in the eyes of the law may become one in the hands of a felon.
LawBot5000
March 25, 2008, 02:17 PM
When you get convicted of a felony, you lose some civil rights.
It isn't like you can't have them restored at some later date so I am pretty much completely unsympathetic, despite my otherwise libertarian attitude towards firearms.
And unless you are a felon, I would not rely on that newsletter as an authority for classifying the GCA status of your firearms. The word "firearm" has a different meaning in nearly every state and federal statutory scheme it is used in. Federally, it means a different thing for FFL regulations, sentencing enhancement laws, for NFA transfers, for importation. In Florida it means a different thing depending on whether you are possessing, carrying or committing a crime with the "firearm."
Most people wouldn't consider a silencer a firearm but it is under many statutory schemes. Most people wouldn't consider a piece of string a firearms, but it is actually a machine gun under certain circumstances. Most people would consider a blackpowder rifle to be a firearm, but it is typically not. Etc. Assuming is a mistake.
Coronach
March 25, 2008, 02:43 PM
It isn't like you can't have them restored at some later date so I am pretty much completely unsympathetic, despite my otherwise libertarian attitude towards firearms.I'm not exactly sympathetic towards felons, either but:
1. You can only have the rights restored in theory. The ATF's budget to restore rights has not been funded for years. In other words, congress is preventing it from happening via the budgetary process.
2. Checked into what all is considered a felony these days? We have had some "penalty inflation" since the good old days where mostly common-law crimes were felonies and everything else was a misdemeanor.
Mike
buzz_knox
March 25, 2008, 03:18 PM
2. Checked into what all is considered a felony these days? We have had some "penalty inflation" since the good old days where mostly common-law crimes were felonies and everything else was a misdemeanor.
People would be amazed to know that the majority of us would be felons if an officer had been present when the violation occurred. Even those who knew they were breaking the law often don't realize the magnitude of the potential penalty.
