Lyman Colt 1860 Revolver


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Mac Attack
March 25, 2008, 01:26 PM
I am traveling on business and happened to stop by a local gun shop that I was told had quite a few bp firearms. Actually the store had quite a few inlines but only a few traditional rifles, however they did have quite an impressive quantity of revolvers - dragoons, 1851's, 1861's, 1858's, various colt reproductions..etc. What caught my eye was a 1860 Army reproduction made by Lyman for $225. Has anyone heard of a Lyman reproduction CB revolver and would you recommend it?

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pohill
March 25, 2008, 01:35 PM
A friend of mine bought a Lyman's Remington NMA .44 (cased with some extras) at Kittery Trading Post (ME) for $150 last year and it is one of the nicest Remingtons I've seen. I'm not sure who made the Lymans, but they pop up on auction every now and then and don't usually go for alot of money.

mykeal
March 25, 2008, 02:15 PM
Lyman's current line of bp rifles is made by Investarms in Spain; their Great Plains Rifle is highly regarded. I do not know who made their revolvers (now all discontinued) but it was likely the same company. They are good, not outstanding, quality

The Fifth Edition (2007) of the Blue Book of Modern Black Powder Arms values their 1860 Colt Army at $160 in 100% condition on page 117. These guns do not command a collector's premium, so $225 would seem to be overpriced.

Blue Book values are only guides. Actual prices can and do vary considerably. Condition is extremely important.

StrawHat
March 25, 2008, 06:24 PM
Mac,

Get some photos of the markings on the revolver.

From those we might be able to get you a maker.

With no mark it is only a guess.

I handled Lyman revolvers but can't recall who made them.

Some of my better deals have happened when traveling.

Right place/time etc.

Keep traveling!

mykeal
March 25, 2008, 07:47 PM
Investarms is a block capital I inside a square. There should also be a 'Made in Spain' stamp.

Macmac
March 25, 2008, 07:50 PM
So far as I know Lyman stopped making hand guns, and I was only aware of a remington clone..

I'ld like to see pics of this 1860 colt clone.. I haVE NEVER OWNED A LYMAN, but liked the look of their rifles pretty well.

DrLaw
March 25, 2008, 08:07 PM
In the 1980's I had a Lyman Remington .44 replica. About the only thing bad about it was the link between the plunger and the loading handle got elongated holes where the screws went. Otherwise, it was a well-made quality piece.

I agree that $225 is a bit overpriced for what these guns went for then. They were about $100-$125 generally.

Lyman had the Remington, a Colt Army and Colt Navy Repro, as well as a line of long guns and the single shot pistol they have today.

I think if you search this forum, you will find who made Lyman guns. I think Pietta or Uberti, one of the two good makers, not ASM or one of those other off-beat (you can feel free to reverse the order of those last two words if you want) brand guns.

The Doc is out now. :cool:

mykeal
March 25, 2008, 09:09 PM
The Lyman Remington was available in both .36 and .44 calibers; the .36 had a 5.5" barrel.

rusty from italy
March 26, 2008, 04:13 AM
Lyman Remington NMA was made by Uberti :)
So i think the other too
Investarm isn't from Spain but from Italy

ciao
Rusty

LEE3370
March 26, 2008, 08:52 AM
The Lymans 58's that I have seen were marked with the Uberti logo.

Mac Attack
March 26, 2008, 11:13 PM
Thanks guys for the information. I don't know if I will be making it out to that G-store again. If the deal was worthy I would have gone back and offered him $200 cash for it, but since the everday price looks to be $40-$50 less than that I won't waste my time.

On a side note, I stopped by the store Walker 47 in Southern California today. From looking at their website, I figured this place would have a ton of traditional BP firearms. I was very dissappointed in the fact that they only had 3- 4 rifles (inline and 2 or 3 traditions) and about 6 old original revolvers. They do however sell BP.

Anyways, I might have to invest in one of the Cabelas specials. Or I can purchase the Ruger Old Army I saw at a local shop at home for <$400. Decisions...decisions....

sirdutch
August 2, 2008, 08:30 PM
The Lyman version of the Colt 1860 Army was made by an Italian company called Armi San Paolo S.N.L. an was established in 1970. The proof mark on the pistol along with the black powder marks is an inter-twined G,D, and G , in a circle, which refers to the founders named Grassi, Doninelli, and Grazzola. If it is marked AF in a square, the year of manufacture is 1980. I don't have the codes for the other years of manufacture at hand. The star in a circle designates the provisional Gardone proof mark. PM is the mark for black powder. Both of these must be present on black powder arms. This manufacturer was bought out by Euroarms as of Dec. 31st, 2001.

scrat
August 2, 2008, 10:56 PM
wow this is an old post. i doubt anyone has any pics

Smokin_Gun
August 3, 2008, 02:13 AM
On a side note, I stopped by the store Walker 47 in Southern California today. From looking at their website, I figured this place would have a ton of traditional BP firearms. I was very dissappointed in the fact that they only had 3- 4 rifles (inline and 2 or 3 traditions) and about 6 old original

Were you at the Gunshop on Sierra Hwy, Lancaster?

I live in Palmdale...that's were I get my BP from.

SG

Smokin_Gun
August 3, 2008, 02:16 AM
I guess it is old...LoL!

SG

K.A.T.
August 3, 2008, 04:12 AM
This is old, but I'll post anyway, Sirdutch is 100% correct, I have one of these revolvers. I paid $160 for mine new in the box. I would not buy another one, the revolver seems to be made of soft metal. Buy a Pietta or a Uberti.

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