W00t! About time I got one of these!


March 25, 2008, 10:21 PM
I've bid on these on Gunbroker before, but never high enough to beat out certain other people who know who they are. But when my local gunshop guy pulled it out from behind the counter and said "make me an offer", I got very quiet, my eyes got very big, and there was a long pause. I then offered him six, he counteroffered five, and I pawed five one-hundred-dollar bills on the counter, shook his hand, and scooped it off the table and began petting it.

Caliber's 8x57I, with a .318 bore, so ammo's gonna be a little bit of a hassle. Strangely, it's British proofed. Looks like a commercial export, I guess. Fit and finish is phenomenal, and the bore's very very good.








Now, the bad news is the set trigger doesn't work and there's some closet fuzz speckles of rust, and there's that crack started in the butt. But still, I'm exstatic. I got into military rifles at least half because I simply couldn't afford the high-end drillings and stuff I lusted after, and milsurps had the same craftsmanship with a more obtainable average pricetag. But now that I've gotten into the hobby enough, I have less knee-jerk purchases of commoner things, and save my pennies enough I can splurge on the really neat stuff.

Which I sure did today!


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March 25, 2008, 10:29 PM
For us in the peanut gallery, what the heck is it, and why is it cool?

(honestly asking, you look happy with it)

March 25, 2008, 10:36 PM
Now that is fascinating... what's the relationship to the V. Chas. Schilling version of the same thing? Does your rifle have notable cast to the stock? What do you think of ornamenting screw heads that laboriously? Were they filled with gunk?

Good catch!

March 25, 2008, 10:39 PM
Very Cool! Congrats!

Are you going to refinish it or leave it as is? At the very least are you going to try and get the set trigger operational again?

March 25, 2008, 10:52 PM
I love a happy ending.

Do you know what's wrong with the set trigger?

For jlbraun: http://www.billkelsey.com/gpbill/haenel.htm
Quickest link I could find. You should be able to google from there.

March 25, 2008, 10:55 PM
Yeah, what is it? Looks old but very cool. Also looks like in it's day was a very high-end firearm. Old world craftsmenship is very obvious. I'd be curious as to the stats on the cartridge it shoots ... you know, bullet weight, velocity ... you know stuff like that.
P.S. by the way your not a midget are you?

March 25, 2008, 11:03 PM
It's one of a few somewhat different sorts of full house custom rifles manufactured before WWI, at the very dawn of the smokeless powder, metallic cartridge bolt action military rifle.
Note how the action is keyed into the stock in the manner of a muzzle loading rifle... That's actually a serious part of how the action is bedded to the stock. It's very close to being hand made.

March 25, 2008, 11:30 PM
"I then offered him six, he counteroffered five"

I LOVE the way your dealer negotiates.

March 25, 2008, 11:41 PM
Yeah, but Tom knows how often I spend money at his shop, I promised him some steaks from the cow we butchered recently, and it is in fact in need of repair.

Still, it's a commercially-reworked hand-done German Guild Rifle in 8x57I, which is the older .318 round-nose loading of 8mm Mauser, built out of a Gewehr 1888 action.

All hand-done with a level of skill and quality that borders on unobtainable or unaffordable nowadays.

Plus it's tigerstriped.

March 25, 2008, 11:42 PM
Your dealer rocks.

But what the heck is that thing? The mag makes me think some form of Carcano or early Mauser derivative, but then there's the calibre and markings......

Though, given everyone else's observations about its age, I'd be careful what you feed it, pressure wise.

Get it fixed up with some spit and polish, replacing what's needed, and make that puppy shine. It's got nice lines, at the very least. Can't compliment anything else on it if I haven't the slightest what it is, though.

March 26, 2008, 07:35 AM
I must admit I liked it when I first saw it.


March 26, 2008, 08:47 AM
Just beautiful. Looking forward to learning more about it.

March 26, 2008, 10:35 AM

You Rock! I know collectors may go nuts over what I would do with it but I would like to see that all gussied up. Polished everywhere it would not damage markings or work and given some sork of onex like hot blue and put back to work.....perhaps with some mid range or sqib loads, but at work.

Would be great to show up at the range in traditional period for the gun hunting costume.

Is that front sight a sort of see-saw with a nice flat sharp edged and dark front sight on on end and a round topped silver blade for low light use on the other?

Love the express sights and the rib is just cool as all get out.

I know that if anyone can fix up that stock that you can and eagerly await future photos of the repaired and cleaned up stock.

No doubt the set trigger is out in your shop soaking in penitrating oil as we type.

Speaking of wood though, I recently bought a Mauser stock that seems to be forone of the earlier model long rifle versions of the 98. It has some color and pattern to it and I had planed to drop my 7mm into just for looks(and to not risk buggering up the original stock at the range). It has a pretty short bayonet rail and unfortunately has a bayonet adaptor like on some of the Cortunas. The adaptor is preventing me from removing the forward band and end cap and as I have no idea what the stock is I was reluctant to start banging away at the offending part to get it off. ANy ideas as to what it is and why it has such an adaptor? I wondered if it was an attempt by the COlombians to use their old 93 bayonets on their 98.

As soon as I find my safe keys to unlock the combination dials I will see if I can get a photo but any ideas would be appreciated.

Oh and if you feel bad about having the extra $100, just drop the cash in an envelope and send it on over to Florida, I am sure I can find something to spend it on.

-Bob Hollingsworth

March 26, 2008, 12:30 PM
That is a very handsome rifle.

March 26, 2008, 12:49 PM
Meh. Give it a Digicam Duracoat job and a synthetic stock. And also go to Bubbaz Gunz to get it rechambered to .223 WSSM since 8x57I is a puny round. :rolleyes:

You have exceedingly excellent taste. :)

March 26, 2008, 01:51 PM
Super cool rifle. :)

March 26, 2008, 02:06 PM
(Sarcasm on ) I think it's just horrible that someone would do that to a fine old mil-surp (Gew.88 Commission rifle). They only made so many of them and to destroy them to make a deer rifle of questionable quality should be a crime. (Sarcasm off)

Cool gun man.

March 26, 2008, 07:18 PM
Very nice rifle. Nothing like tigerstriped gunstocks!:)

March 26, 2008, 09:12 PM
Wow. you can't find anything today with character like that. Just close your eyes a second and imagine what that thing must have looked like when it was new. I can imagine some rifleman in Deutschland many, many years ago holding that same rifle with that same smile on his face.

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