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neal7250
March 26, 2008, 08:52 PM
What is going on on EBAY? I was looking for a powder measure, and it cost about twenty (20) dollars more than a new one. Forget about the dies and Dillon conversion kits. This is crazy:cuss:

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scrat
March 26, 2008, 08:58 PM
people trying to rip other people off. thinking they are getting a good deal. i always send an email to the seller with a link saying they are ripping off buyers. Then send them a link saying i am reporting them to ebay. They usually remove the product or lower their price.

Seafarer12
March 27, 2008, 12:05 AM
I don't even pay attention to those people on ebay anymore.

Bazooka Joe71
March 27, 2008, 01:22 AM
Oh, so it is basically like gunbroker now?





Except cheaper.

people trying to rip other people off

It's not really ripping someone off...If they are stupid enough to not do there research.:cool:

ArchAngelCD
March 27, 2008, 01:37 AM
I agree with Joe, you can't get ripped off just because someone puts too high a price on an item, you can only rip yourself off by buying it.

ReloaderFred
March 27, 2008, 03:00 AM
You can't blame the seller if the bidders are the ones driving up the price. I've seen several reloading items go for more on ebay than you could buy them for at Midway, but that's the fault of the bidders, not the sellers.

Fred

Mojo-jo-jo
March 27, 2008, 03:32 AM
Once Ebay banned most gun-related items last year, many sellers went elsewhere or quit doing on-line business altogether. Since there are fewer sellers, there is less competition and the prices on what's left jacked WAY up.

Sellers on Gunbroker has always been insanely high in price on anything small (and often big as well).

Pretty much, there's no longer any online auction where you can buy/sell gun stuff with reasonable prices. If you don't like your local gun store prices, go to Midway, Cheaper Than Dirt, FM Reloading, Brownell's etc. That's basically what you're stuck with.

evan price
March 27, 2008, 03:46 AM
Believe it or not, I was bidding on Lee carbide .357-Mag 3-die set, new in box. Final price was $50 plus shipping. I about shat myself. I emailed the seller and wished him luck on his good fortune and hope that the buyer was for real.
He responded, that yes, the guy had already contacted him and wanted it.

All I could say was, wow, if I could get $50 each I would sell every die set I had.

Anyway, I bought a like-new in box Lee 3-die carbide .357 Mag die set, in a Lee Pro1K turret, in the original plastic die case, for $15. Can't complain. Now I don't have to keep resetting my other Lee set to go from .38 spl to .357 mag.

Walkalong
March 27, 2008, 07:13 AM
I would have to say I have no respect for the sellers, even if the buyers are the 100% of the problem.

cdrt
March 27, 2008, 09:17 AM
Pretty much, there's no longer any online auction where you can buy/sell gun stuff with reasonable prices

I would have to say I have no respect for the sellers, even if the buyers are the 100% of the problem

It all depends on what you're looking for and what you're willing to spend.
When I was selling brass on eBay, I made sure that I under sold the other guys, kept my shipping costs to pretty close to actual, and shipped as soon as payment was received. I do the same thing on GunBroker, but unfortunately, I don't have a lot for sale right now. The few times I had auctions go crazy, were for parts for Star presses, since they're hard to find. However, I started them low and let the market prevail. If you want to check out my past auctions to verify all this, send me a PM and I'll give you my old eBay ID and my current GunBroker ID.

Please don't lump all sellers in the "bad" category. There are sellers out there selling stuff at reasonable prices and low shipping.

loadedround
March 27, 2008, 09:34 AM
Guys, It's not just eBay, the same thing happens on GB also. A few months ago there was a fellow selling S&W Model 52 parts and he was a regular seller, aways listing parts etc. It happened that I needed a bushing wrench for my Mdl 52 and he had them for sale at 10.50 ea plus shipping. I emailed him to advise that Numrich Arms Corp(GPC Inc.) had the same part in stock for 2.00 and his price was way to high. The jerk reported me to GB Mgt. for harrassment and was told not to contact the seller again or be barred from the site. So screw him, I bought it from Numrich Arms. As far as I am concerned can usually buy a gun part cheaper thru Brownells or Numrich Arms then thru 'net. Rant over. :(

lee n. field
March 27, 2008, 09:59 AM
This is crazy

It's been going on for as long as I've been paying attention to ebay, which is back into the last millennium.

Caveat Emptor. Sometimes I'll stumble into a good deal, something very specialized, or something misclassified, that noone has noticed. Most often it is as you say.

Eb1
March 27, 2008, 10:31 AM
Get this.

There was a post on marlinowners.com about a '53 35 Rem Lever gun. The post on Gunbroker was that an old woman was trying to sell her dead husbands deer rifles. Well come to find out it was all a lie, and the guy was called out on it, and admitted to it. He just used that line to try to get an extra $150 dollars over what it is worth. CONS!!

Walkalong
March 27, 2008, 11:30 AM
Please don't lump all sellers in the "bad" category. There are sellers out there selling stuff at reasonable prices and low shipping.Auctions are different that posted prices. If they get carried away and pay too much, well, good for you. :)

Walkalong
March 27, 2008, 11:32 AM
The post on Gunbroker was that an old woman was trying to sell her dead husbands deer rifles. Well come to find out it was all a lie,Half the guys on there are selling of "collections" for "sick friends" :barf:

The one or two who are for real get ignored because of the BS'ers.

Bazooka Joe71
March 27, 2008, 11:45 AM
The post on Gunbroker was that an old woman was trying to sell her dead husbands deer rifles. Well come to find out it was all a lie,


Half the guys on there are selling of "collections" for "sick friends"

Yeah, that is pretty disgusting.:barf:

I guess I was just raised to be better than that...I can't say I've never told a little white lie before, but lying about people dying or being sick?:(

strat81
March 27, 2008, 04:08 PM
What is going on on EBAY? I was looking for a powder measure, and it cost about twenty (20) dollars more than a new one. Forget about the dies and Dillon conversion kits. This is crazy
Capitalist pigs!!
:rolleyes:

jfh
March 27, 2008, 05:33 PM
I don't get it.

P.T. Barnum lived about 100 years ago, and I don't think people have changed.

If you don't want something at someone's price, then don't pay it. I don't buy on E-Bay, or other auction sites, except if I've researched the "Buy It Now" price and the shipping charges.

Strat81 probably has it right--they're just capitalist pigs.

Jim H.

floydster
March 27, 2008, 05:44 PM
E-Bay is an absolute joke, I have seen a Lyman reloading manual go for twice the price then you could by it for at Cabela's or Midway.
Floydster

evan price
March 28, 2008, 10:55 AM
Hey, I say, if someone is stupid enough to overpay for something because they don't want to shop around, that's their problem- it's not like you are charging for drinking water or breathable air. You can always say no.

scrat
March 28, 2008, 11:14 AM
Hey, I say, if someone is stupid enough to overpay for something because they don't want to shop around, that's their problem- it's not like you are charging for drinking water or breathable air. You can always say no.
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problem with this though. Go back in the past when ebay was a good place and people were not over charged.

People like most of us had options. Give your money to the big cooperates like midway or cabelas. Or check ebay maybe for a used press, die or something. I remember checking ebay once a week for deals. When you saw them you bid on them. when and if the item reached the price of a new one you pulled out. or maybe you were lucky to win the auction at a decent price. that was cool it was fair.

Today. its seems as though why even look. They should just close down the reloading section as its a joke. Seems as though every seller is selling used items at the same cost as new items. Then are selling new items at 20-50% more than a new item. Its not a place to find deals anymore. you only use it if your in a jam and someone has your item you cant find anywhere else. Other wise it just sucks now.

neal7250
March 28, 2008, 02:59 PM
I made a purchace on E-bay for a 303 conversion kit for a 650. I won the bid for a real low price. I immediately paid with pay-pal, and have as yet to recieve the kit.

Pay-pal is trying to get up with this guy. The kicker is, that I was notified by the seller, that the item was shipped, and that he forgot so he was sending it the next day.:cuss::cuss:

Bazooka Joe71
March 28, 2008, 05:14 PM
There is really no use in complaining about it...If you don't like it just don't go there...In the past few months I've found some good deals on ebay...There are a few left.

I got a NIB Burris Fullfield II for every bit of $100 less than anywhere else I've seen and a Harris swivel pod for $25-30 cheap than anywhere else...I always see good deals on there for new/used ACOG's, but you have to sift through the rip offs.

RustyFN
March 28, 2008, 07:02 PM
What is going on on EBAY?
Ebay sucks and has for a long time.
Rusty

Funderb
March 28, 2008, 07:03 PM
I got a good deal on some estwing framing hammers.
two for eight bucks, five more to ship.

Quickdraw McGraw
March 29, 2008, 07:34 AM
It's been going on for as long as I've been paying attention to ebay, which is back into the last millennium.

Caveat Emptor. Sometimes I'll stumble into a good deal, something very specialized, or something misclassified, that noone has noticed. Most often it is as you say.

lee n field you hit the nail on the haed. there are still decent deals on there. they are just extremely hard to find!

ranger335v
March 29, 2008, 08:32 AM
"I have no respect for the sellers, even if the buyers are the 100% of the problem."

OK, but I wouldn't try to bargan down a bidder who offered me 2-3 times what I expected. Some folks are simply ignorant of what things can be bought for and they frequently seem to think any price at an auction is a good deal. I've seen local IRS tax auctions sell business bankrupcy stuff at prices that would have saved the owner if people had been willing to pay those prices!

As P.T. Barnum once said, "There's a sucker born every minute." Wish I could find one of them to buy my old gas-guzzling truck!

Wayne02
March 29, 2008, 11:40 AM
So we are mad at ebay? ebay is just the mechanism to bring together sellers and buyers.

Somebody out there must be buying this stuff, and ostensibly they are firearm enthusiasts of some sort. Which means they are us...

John C
March 29, 2008, 07:14 PM
I think there are two things going with internet auctions:

1. The price gets jacked up to the level of the most expensive part of the country (being a national market). Say you're in Texas, and there's a lot of shooters and used stuff to find at swap meets and gunshows. Used shooting stuff can be cheap. Now a place like California, there isn't this opportunity. People in California (or wherever) go on eBay to find cheap stuff, which it is, since it's REALLY expensive or non-existant where they live. It gets bid up past the point where it's reasonable in MOST parts of the country.

2. The cost of shipping varies dramatically depending on how the item needs to be shipped. I can only assume that the guy who bid 35% more than I did on a item all the way across the country isn't paying an exorbitant amount of shipping that it would cost me to get that 18 foot aluminum canoe to my house. The same things applies to much smaller items.

Just my thoughts.

-John

t0066jh
March 30, 2008, 12:04 AM
Geez guys. What happened to capitalism. If their price is to high, buy it elsewhere. Who should regulate these sellers........or maybe ...who should regulate you as a seller and you want top dollar for what you've got. Supply and demand has always worked and every time Government regulates it they screw it up. Guess what if someone makes them sell it for less. PEOPLE WILL QUIT SELLING IT AT ALL.

And another thing, my neighbor makes more money than he should. He should be made to give his money to me. Of course, I might make more money than you and you want it. etc etc.

2RCO
March 30, 2008, 12:11 AM
It works like this Buyers get hosed by sellers, Sellers get hosed by Ebay. Oh yeah and the whole gun community gets hosed by Ebay.

On a personal note when I list items on ebay they will occasionally sell for double what I sell them for on www.2rco.com people get in bidding wars and it goes crazy.

I've stopped selling on ebay for a while but it definitely gets more traffic.

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