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Mavrick12
March 27, 2008, 09:56 PM
I just got a new job. It requires me to cut open boxes, And cut them up. My boss said It was okay for me to have a knife.

So here are the requirments:

Budget of $30-$50
Needs to be able to cut open boxes, packages, cut boxes up, cut bags, and stuff like that.

I dont wanna use a box cutter, if you use a box cutter you have to use theirs and they suck:D

And I just kinda wanna use a knife for this. It will teach me to sharpen it Im sure.

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doubleh
March 27, 2008, 10:11 PM
Get one of the two dozen different brands that use utility knife blades and you won't have to learn to sharpen it. These things are handy. I carry one regularly for things I don't want to use a good knife on.

Mavrick12
March 27, 2008, 10:23 PM
It does seem handy, But I kinda want a normal plain edge knife.


Remember, this is also gonna be the knife I learn to resharpen with.

Markbo
March 27, 2008, 10:32 PM
With that low budget, just go to your local Academy or Gander Mountain or whatever sporting good place you have and pick one that feels good in your hand.

Make sure you get all metal - the lightweight 'composite' scales can and will develope little cracks and eventually break. An all steel or at least all metal body will stand up a lot longer.

Get a standard edge - not serrated - and you will find it handy to have a clip on it. I am picky about the clip... I ONLY buy knives that position the knife on my person so that when I grab it, the blade is the correct orientation for one handed opening, or point up...

I stick my thumb in my pocket along the knife with the tip pointing at my palm... I pull it straight up and it is oriented for an easy one thumb pop.

hso
March 27, 2008, 10:59 PM
For what you intend to do with it I'd get one of the folding utility knives like the Superknife, but if you have your heart set on a folder with a non-replaceable blade you can't do better than a Spyderco Native purchased from Walmart (yes, I said it. Walmart) for $40.

Mavrick12
March 27, 2008, 11:29 PM
Is there somthing wrong with using a folder with a normal blade?

Maybe I will just get a superknife,.

The only reason I said a normal blade is becuase I want to learn to sharpen freehand and I thought having a dull knife to practice on every week would be cool.

oh and a random question to hso: Hows the quality of Browning knives?

hso
March 27, 2008, 11:57 PM
Dollar for dollar there are better knives than the Browning knives.

If you want to learn to sharpen get one of SM's favorite knives, a 3.5" Old Hickory paring knife, and a sharpening stone. You'll spend more on the stone than the knife, but it's one of the best platforms to learn on because it's inexpensive, carbon steel with a good heat treat and actually useful.

Nothing wrong with a normal blade folder, it's the stables in packages that are the problem. :evil: I've seen a lot of perfectly good knives with divots in the blade from staples so the Superknife has it's place in the stock room.

Mavrick12
March 28, 2008, 12:13 AM
Thanks A lot!

Sorry if this deviates a bit, But this would be a good knife for just carrying off work right?

http://www.thebladeshop.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=707

Again sorry Im just a guy thats new to knives gettin excited.

fatguynlittlecoat
March 28, 2008, 12:36 AM
Buck 110...all the other ones in it's class are junk.

conwict
March 28, 2008, 12:38 AM
http://www.thebladeshop.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=4456

The Kershaw "Needs Work" has gotten a lot of positive reviews. It's supposedly a lot of knife for $30. Has assisted opening too.

The fact that the company will service the knife under any circumstance, in my experience, also leads me to recommend it to you in your scenario.

mp510
March 28, 2008, 01:06 AM
A functional sheepfoot folder ( a coping knife), like the silver handle Okapi in this eBay ad, would be perfect for what you are looking to do. Or, get an inexpensive stockman, and use the sheepsfoot blade for opening boxes and clip and spey blades for other chores.

http://cgi.ebay.com/POCKET-KNIFE-2-VINTAGE-OKAPI-GERMANY-WINE-KNIFE-IVORY_W0QQitemZ130209019562QQihZ003QQcategoryZ43332QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

Here is a nice US made Camillus:
http://cgi.ebay.com/CAMILLUS-U-S-A-SHEEPFOOT-COPING-KNIFE_W0QQitemZ300210825344QQihZ020QQcategoryZ63793QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

Here is a locking Coping knife, by Imperial Schrade:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Schrade-Imperial-TRADESMAN-TM9-Sheepfoot-Locking-Knife_W0QQitemZ360037014336QQihZ023QQcategoryZ48820QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

Funderb
March 28, 2008, 01:09 AM
CRKT
best knives i've ever had.

sm
March 28, 2008, 01:35 AM
*git outta my yard!*

Mavrick12,

I am here, you can quit fretting now.

hso is coming along I see, from his post above, still ain't quite there yet.

Get you a Old Hickory Paring knife, as he said, the 3 1/4" one, now seriously, this does make for a nice warehouse knife.

Get a Norton India IB6 stone.
Get the 3" Norton just like it (coarse/fine)

Case yellow handle with chrome vanadium blades, in a stockman.
Yellow handles are easy to see, and therefore less likely to lose.

Sheepsfoot blade is great for straight line cuts and cutting rope. This blade is a real workhorse in a warehouse setting, busting down boxes and cutting through tape.

This leaves the main clip blade for lunch duties, like cutting an apple for that sweet thang that works in the office.

Spey blade will fool one as to how it works like a skinning blade, and with such control for any delicate cuts.
Stockman 3318 CV
http://www.wrcase.com/knives/pocket_knives/browsefolding2.php?Family='Yellow%20Handle'&Folding='1'&Item='0035'

Now while you are on that page, flip to see the Sodbuster Junior 3137 CV

http://www.wrcase.com/knives/pocket_knives/browsefolding2.php?Family='Yellow%20Handle'&Folding='1'&Item='0032'
That sucker is a flat workhorse and works well for warehouse work.

My pets are the Peanut 3220 CV and Barehead Slimline Trapper 31048 CV

http://www.wrcase.com/knives/pocket_knives/browsefolding2.php?Family='Yellow%20Handle'&Folding='1'&Item='0030'

http://www.wrcase.com/knives/pocket_knives/browsefolding2.php?Family='Yellow%20Handle'&Folding='1'&Item='0031'

I may be a dumb old southern boy , but I do know how to freehand sharpen on a 3' stone, doing a cowboy lean in a warehouse setting, flirting with sweet thang from up the admin office that come on down...

Southern Belles just get all a flutter when a fella can do what he can with his hands , has skill sets, and knows how to use a tool proper and maintain 'em.



Use Enough Traditional.

sixgunner455
March 28, 2008, 01:48 AM
Thanks A lot!

Sorry if this deviates a bit, But this would be a good knife for just carrying off work right?

http://www.thebladeshop.com/index.as...ROD&ProdID=707

Again sorry Im just a guy thats new to knives gettin excited.

There are guys who carry the little Peanuts exclusively. If you're wanting to cut up boxes all day, then you may want something larger. If you are just cutting the packing tape, it will do as well as anything else. Personally, I would get that little Peanut since you like it, and maybe a larger Case like the Copperlock or Slimline Trapper. Both are single blade knives that would do extremely well for work. The thing about all of those Case knives is that they aren't expensive, and their blades are designed to be efficient at cutting, not looking stylish, intimidating, or cool. They are made of thin stock so that they can slip through stuff easily.

The suggestion made earlier to get an Old Hickory paring knife has a lot of merit as well. Not expensive, but it will cut with the best of them, and you wanted to learn to sharpen -- it's a great thing to be able to keep your knife sharp. Learning on a quality blade that you don't have a lot of money into would be perfect, to my way of thinking.

I have several Case knives. They are among my favorites. You get a wholehearted endorsement from me, even if you just take that Peanut to work with you. It will work.

Steve, I'm not old enough for oldphart status, but I'm well on my way to being a curmudgeon. I will get there eventually, I have faith. I even added a 31048 CV to my stash of pocketknives, mostly due to your influence. Blade is still a little splotchy, but it cuts up oranges and apples like nobody's business!

ArfinGreebly
March 28, 2008, 02:16 AM
I see all the good suggestions have been made.

I'll also endorse the Kershaw "Needs Work" folder. It's a one-hand opener ("Speed Safe" spring assist) and has a robust and sharp blade.

I have one, and I'd stack it up against most anything in a warehouse environment.

I see the Stockman pattern has been suggested. Good knife. I have that in a Buck, and it's all kinds of useful. Peanut pattern certainly will work, though if you're actually cutting up boxes all day long, you may want a slightly bigger blade.

Not a lot I can add, really.

The Buck 110 was mentioned, and that's a great knife at a good price. If you find it a little on the "too large" side, there's always the Buck 112 "Ranger" (just like the 110 but a little smaller), or even the more recent Buck 290 "Rush" model (also a spring-assisted ["ASAP"] one-hand opener).

I just got one this week, and it looks like this:
http://static.zoovy.com/img/888knivesrus/-/2/290pltw.jpg

Has a 2.5-inch blade, nice and pointy, and quite sharp. Paid $50 at Sportsman's Warehouse.

sm
March 28, 2008, 02:18 AM
Mavrick12,

I missed seeing your link to the Case Peanut.
Nice knife.

Now I will turn 53 next month, and I have had a Case Peanut in my life, since the time I was brought home from being born; as grandma stuck one in my dresser drawer crib, next to the revolver she got me.

I am biased toward the Chrome Vanadium blades, due to metallurgy, edge retention, ease of sharpening.

Just me, I am old, and not a fan of "nasty old stainless steels" *oldfart*
Tru-Sharp is fine, some prefer it, and I respect that too.

Just learning about pocket knives, keeping them up, sharpening I suggest the CV blades, and these get a real neat patina , that stainless does not get.

Just for information, nothing more, nothing less, just I have a bit of time with these Peanuts, and that is the only EDC I am currently using.

I got one of them Old Hickory's I use in the Kitchen.

I have not doubt in my mind, if you choose to use a Peanut for your Warehouse knife, you can do it.
I know you can.
Heck, holler at me with any questions and concerns, this is called passing it forward and how we are supposed to do things.

If you have a local hardware store with a Case Display, handle the Peanut, with both kinds of blades.
My gut says, since you are wanting traditional, you will get a CV one.

Re: Cardboard
Cardboard is basically nothing more than paper, dirt, and clay. These are hard on tools, mfg tools and knife blades.
Heat is generated, and heat also is hard on tools, such as knives.

This is why knives get dull cutting cardboard.

My personal take is, CV due to its metallurgy and the way this metallurgy takes a heat treat , allows it to hold an edge better, still allowing one to sharpen it easy.

Stainless steels are different, and various stainless heat treat different.

I can get a more acute, or fine edge on CV than stainless , and the finer edge will cut better, and the properties of CV allow that finer edge to last.

I get more cuts with a finer edge if you will. The knife does the work with less effort, or energy and generates less additional heat.

Just a dumb southern boy, just the way it all seems to play out for me is all...

I recently broke down the boxes a washer, dryer, fridge, bicycle, and other things come in, filled the bed of a small truck.
All I used was my Peanut...
I did not use a stone to sharpen it back up, I just stropped it.

My little Peanut , will hurt folks, as they just don't realize how sharp that sucker really is.

Use Enough Peanut.

sm
March 28, 2008, 02:23 AM
Where is that boy!

The Tourist,

We got a two part thread going on here, get your butt in here...please.

1. Gotta fella needing a knife.

2. hso is getting a headache putting up with us all and we would hate to see you not contribute to us giving him a headache.

Now if could only figure out to post a thread on how long it takes hso to go through a 1000 ct bottle of Tylenol putting up with us all , we would be set!

*yep*

theken206
March 28, 2008, 02:37 AM
30-50 bucks huh??

a good gerber like this one

http://www.gerberstore.com/index.php?xpage=itempage&xid=361

TimboKhan
March 28, 2008, 02:43 AM
hahaha....

I was just getting ready to qoute this:

Sorry if this deviates a bit, But this would be a good knife for just carrying off work right?

http://www.thebladeshop.com/index.as...ROD&ProdID=707


And say that SM will want to talk to you immediately, as there is no bigger fan of the Case Peanut. Three posts later, there he is, haha.

JTW Jr.
March 28, 2008, 03:11 AM
http://www.knifeworks.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=9320

or get a pair of these
http://www.knifeworks.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=9119

Pontif
March 28, 2008, 04:28 AM
I have a Leatherman knife that has a 154CM blade. Leatherman, I believe, does not make the little knife with the 154CM steel anymore.

Cardboard is hell on a blade. The right steel (properly heat treated) will save you a ton of head aches. Also, I actually cryo treated the blade and then tempered it after I bought it. The Cryo treatment makes all the difference in the world.

Pontif

Leadhead
March 28, 2008, 05:10 AM
Kinda wierd that your boss will let you use any knife but will only allow company boxcutters.....


This is my Olfa....there are many like it but this one is mine.:)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/Candown/Olfa.jpg

Mandirigma
March 28, 2008, 07:23 AM
Needs to be able to cut open boxes, packages, cut boxes up, cut bags, and stuff like that.

Cardboard is basically nothing more than paper, dirt, and clay. These are hard on tools, mfg tools and knife blades. Heat is generated, and heat also is hard on tools, such as knives.

This is why knives get dull cutting cardboard.

Just from my experience if you are going to open and breakdown boxes everyday or thereabouts I'd go with the superknife.

If I only had to sharpen my knife weekly, I'd have never gotten a superknife. I learned with my CRKT M16, that any day I had to open boxes I had to resharpen it that day. If I got lazy or worked a weird no downtime schedule then the knife performed even worse. Cardboard is HARD on knife edges.

Sharpening a knife hasn't ever been a chore for me. But I quickly became annoyed at having to clean the adhesive gunk off then sharpen it everyday.

So I picked up a superknife, IIRC I spent under $20 for knife and package of replacement razors.

There were days that I completely dulled both sides of a new razor blade (but the tips are still pokey so careful). So far so that I could push my finger onto the edge and not cut myself.

The only reason I said a normal blade is becuase I want to learn to sharpen freehand and I thought having a dull knife to practice on every week would be cool.

Kind of doing the same thing, I used to use my sharpmaker to sharpen exclusively, but I've been learning on a Case Sod Buster Jr. and a Arkansas stone. Also picked up some fixed blade blanks just to work on freehand sharpening.

tallpaul
March 28, 2008, 08:57 AM
I see this was already addressed but cardboard is tough on a knife. A superknife is the way to go like it or not- I would get one of those and the spyderco native... The native is a great all around blade to start with. The utility bladed knife you can keep nice and likely use THEIR blades instead of yours. The reason the superknife was made is exactly what you do... there is a reason they are so popular. The suggestion of learning to sharpen on kitchen knives is good- garage sales will provide plenty of cheap practice ;)

BTW when cutting boxes the duller the knife the more dangerous! A quick blade change out will go a long way toward your safety where as you may not have "time" to sharpen by hand...

The Tourist
March 28, 2008, 01:28 PM
I have to go with the simple answer here.

If your company would allow it, then the SuperKnife would be the logical choice. As you said in the opening post, they do not permit it.

However, Stanley makes a pack of 100 replacement blades (mine comes in orange plastic dispenser) for about five bucks. Keep it at your work station.

It you receive a box cutter that is worn or broken, replace the blade. When your assignment is done, pass it on to the next employee who will appreciate the improved tool.

Save your own money for a decent knife that won't be abused. Cardboard is about the worst thing for a knife.

Yes, I'm am a professional sharpener, and I use SuperKnives. I own four of them. The right tool for the right job.

Pilot
March 28, 2008, 01:40 PM
X2 on Spyderco Native from Wallmart at $40 you get a S30V blade in a great little knife. Buck 110 is also a good choice around $30 at Wally World.

OMGWTFBBQ
March 28, 2008, 02:23 PM
Opinel. Easy to sharpen(get the carbon steel), and only costs $5-10. It has a very thin blade, so it works well to slice bagels and such too. As tourist said, cardboard is just about the worst thing for a blade(short of whacking it against rock or metal), so save the nice ones for when you need a sturdier knife, and leave the "easy yet damaging" jobs for the beater knives(or, better yet, a box opener :)).

sm
March 28, 2008, 02:36 PM
Seriously.

1. Company policies are shaped by Health & Safety Officers and Insurance Providers.
Safety in the Workplace is a concern, hence the reason companies will set policy requiring the use of issued or approved knives.

Additionally some companies, fall under local rules and regulations of knife laws as well.

a. Job description will dictate what a person will use for task.
IME/IMO The box cutter with retractable "utility" blade , is most often preferred.

Carton cutters , the more thin/flat retractable style, that uses a single edge razor blade is also preferred.
This is the one I personally prefer to use and have used.

Disposable cutters, the ones with snap off blades are allowed in many settings, - however - many of these are under the guise of approval of company regs.

Many places that issue a knife - require the blade NOT be able to "fold" as a safety precaution, - not even "locking" folding knifes.
Fixed, or retractable - for employee safety.


b. Companies have set rules in regard to closed knife size not being over 3", no assisted opening of any kind, no one handed opening , no lock of any kind.

I have been in stores, and employees needed to cut something, and customers offer a personal knife, and the employee inform they can be fired on the spot for using a customers knife. In the same fashion, if a customer asked what personal knife an employee has - that employee can be fired from just producing their knife to show a customer.


Now some employees are just jerks, or want to hurt others, so sometimes a employee will get another another employee in trouble and ask to see their knife, or "oh show the customer what you have" , or even have a friend come in and try to trip them up, by asking them to show a knife, or hand them one to use.

I checked into this.
Some folks could not simply use a one handed knife, instead had to flick it out, and play with it at the workplace.
Folks were spending too much time doing "knife" instead of work.
Employees playing games to snitch on others, for whatever reason, even making up "how that scares me".

Superknife...is catching on.
Problem is, it has a pocket clip, and around some areas, thugs are reading pockets and thinking a person has a CCW.
Smarter thugs know a Superknife clip from a Spyderco etc.

Some settings, the clip scratching mdse is a concern if an employees brushes up against it.

Like anything else, some of this is nothing more than common sense, such as not messing up a good knife, or taking a chance on losing it, or not being covered if one does get a cut - even a cut from something in the warehouse, ( sharp edge on a trash can) and upon review, it comes out they use a non approved tool in the warehouse.

Some of this is over regulated nanny-state of course, still, one continues to fight knife laws and work within guidelines.

I know one place, Approved box cutters in yellow and orange are issued for most.
Electrician's knives, with the locking blade, are only approved for certain workers, such as electricians, and some IT folks.

If one is not approved for the electricians knife, one is best to not have one.
One can state their case for a need for one, and only after the office writes off ( approves this) may they carry one.

.

The Tourist
March 28, 2008, 03:36 PM
Company policies are shaped by Health & Safety Officers and Insurance Providers.

Good point, I didn't even think of that. Perhaps we are going about this backwards.

Instead of trying to figure out what's permitted, it might be easier to find out what your options are, and pick the one you can live with.

Frankly, that's not as big a deal as you might think. When I went to work as a manager of a bicycle manufacturer, I found I could wear jeans and boots--which I switched over to immediately!

And along with my jeans came the clip knife on my right front pocket--right out where everyone could see. It was about 30 minutes into the day before I got called to my boss' office with a complaint I had a weapon.

I solved my problem by buying a the same knife (a Microtech) with a purple handle. Even the women thought it was cute--not knowing it was the very same one.

You might have to play the game.

2nd 41
March 28, 2008, 03:41 PM
A serrated Spyder gets my vote. I used them at work for years. It is also my choice pocket knife for casual wear. Flat and quite durable.
Shop around. Prices vary.
http://spyderco.com/catalog/list.php?genre=knife

Mavrick12
March 29, 2008, 01:04 AM
Aye Aye Aye, I get home from work Late and come to this site right before bed and theres the answer!



I didnt know how hard it was on a Knife. Until I buy a superknife, I will just kinda break them apart by hand I guess, Those company supplied Box cutters dont cut butter well. Oh the legality of it is fine. I payed attention to peoples pockets today and there were many more knives than I thought(Superknives mostly). It must be allright. I will check to make sure, though.

Haha sm, Thats funny. When I was born my dad put a old school barlow and an RG .22 revolver in my dresser. I shoulda been interested in knives before this. I still have that barlow:)

Thanks all. Now I know which way is up in knives, Just gatta learn all the other directions:D

Im gonna get that old hickory knife and stone. Which is better to start with, Coarse or fine?

This is gonna be fun.

sixgunner455
March 29, 2008, 01:25 PM
You could get a double-sided stone, one coarse and one fine. I just bought a new Old Hickory -- we've been recommending these so much lately, but I haven't bought a new one ever. I just inherited a bunch of them, and bought a few at yard sales and flea markets. So I bought a new one for 5.95 yesterday, and I'm going to put a good edge on it, maybe make a little belt pouch for it, slick up the handle -- it'll be the fanciest Old Hickory around! Just thought I'd put a new one to the test.

sm
March 29, 2008, 02:04 PM
Norton India IB6 (six inches) or IB8 (eight inches) is a Coarse /Fine stone.

Just a proven stone that will sharpen Carbon Steel, Chrome Vanadium and most anything else like 440C

From this, one can strop on cardboard , or an old belt.

Just basic skill sets, with a stone that works.

One can move onto a finer grit stone if need, still this stone is fine for what most folks really use a knife for around the house and yard.

Here is the deal, learn the correct basics, and one can get a knife sharp with this stone.

One can also never learn to get a knife sharp, no matter what system, how much it costs, or how fine a grit.

Invest in skill sets not equipment to learn the correct basics.

conwict
March 29, 2008, 03:35 PM
Why you should get the Needs Work

It looks cool (I think)
http://www.selfdefensesupply.com/catalog/images/ker1820.jpg

The Sandvik 13C26 steel is really nice for sharpening. It doesn't dull fast, but it sure sharpens fast.

From this review:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=538249

"The handle feels good in the hand, and seems like one of those knives you can use for hours without your hand cramping."

"The knife came out of the box extremely sharp. After cutting cardboard ans the usualy ropes, strings, and paper, it didn't require any touch-ups. I'm not very familiar with the Sandvik steel that Kershaw uses, but it looks like they've got a winner as far as edge retention. This blade type (wharncliff) is really suited for general utility, and would make a great everyday carry knife."

tallpaul
March 29, 2008, 03:52 PM
I just got a new job. It requires me to cut open boxes, And cut them up. My boss said It was okay for me to have a knife.

So here are the requirments:

Budget of $30-$50
Needs to be able to cut open boxes, packages, cut boxes up, cut bags, and stuff like that.

I dont wanna use a box cutter, if you use a box cutter you have to use theirs and they suck

And I just kinda wanna use a knife for this. It will teach me to sharpen it Im sure.
Mavrick12 is offline Report Post I have to go with the simple answer here.


If your company would allow it, then the SuperKnife would be the logical choice. As you said in the opening post, they do not permit it.

Ok tourist where in the original post does it say a super knife is not allowed? I don't believe a superknife is classified as a box cutter...

However, Stanley makes a pack of 100 replacement blades (mine comes in orange plastic dispenser) for about five bucks. Keep it at your work station.

It you receive a box cutter that is worn or broken, replace the blade. When your assignment is done, pass it on to the next employee who will appreciate the improved tool.

Save your own money for a decent knife that won't be abused. Cardboard is about the worst thing for a knife.

Yes, I'm am a professional sharpener, and I use SuperKnives. I own four of them. The right tool for the right job.

I agree and was thinking along the same lines of request replacement blades....

The Tourist
March 29, 2008, 05:14 PM
Ok tourist where in the original post does it say a super knife is not allowed?

The OP said this:

if you use a box cutter you have to use theirs

Since I consider a SuperKnife to be foremeost a box cutter, I took his post to mean that he could not buy his own.

I leave my SuperKnives near the door for the large number of parcels we get. Most times in a week, my SuperKnives duties have been 100% for incoming UPS packages.

tallpaul
March 29, 2008, 06:01 PM
just because YOU call it a box cutter and it fills the role well does not make it so... it is a versatile knife and as far as I know not advertised as a boxcutter or named one. If using your definition - any knife could be a boxcutter.

BTW I bought several of the first ones I saw- they are handy and extremely practical. I just wish they made a high quality one...

then again mybe you call semi auto rifles assault rifles too :neener:

sixgunner455
March 29, 2008, 07:02 PM
Just because cardboard is kinda tough on a knife edge, doesn't mean that it's gonna wear out in two weeks over it. There are folks who test edge durability cutting strips outta the stuff. IIRC, the last guy I read who did that used a Case Peanut in stainless and another in CV (high carbon, will rust) steels to compare. He made a bunch of 6" long strips with both of them, around a hundred each, and the edges lasted very similar amounts of time. Like, maybe a dozen cuts different between the two.

I've taken all my favorite knives out to the trash can with a pile of boxes and chopped them up, just looking to see which I liked using for that chore best. It's all just fun, but none of them take any time to clean up the edge after. Biggest chore is cleaning up the glue after opening packages, and wiping the blade with a papertowel soaked in mineral oil cleans it right up -- a lot faster and more effectively than soap and water.

So, get the knife you want. Use it the way you want. If/when you wear it out, thank the Lord you've lived that long, and buy another one. I've never personally really worn a knife completely out. I have one that I've had for 15 years that I won't use anymore because it needs to be rebuilt, but it's still useable, the blades are in great shape, and if it were the only knife I had, like its twin I had as a teenager was, you bet I'd put it in my pocket.

M203Sniper
March 29, 2008, 07:13 PM
Ka-Bar TDI (Large)

$40



http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/38603-47368-1259.html



You'll like the angle for that kinda work and it's made of good steel. (AUS-8)


# 440A - 440B - 440C - All three resist rust well, with 440A being the most resistant and 440C the least. If your knife is marked with just 440, it is probably the less expensive 440A. In general the 440A is just good enough for everyday use, 440B is a solid performer and 440C being excellent.

# AUS-8 - Japanese stainless steel, roughly compared to 440B.

xx7grant7x
March 29, 2008, 07:27 PM
CRKT edgie, it sharpens itself! you can't beat that for boxes! I've got one and if need be I'd use that day in and out no lock but hey they're just boxes!

sm
March 29, 2008, 07:38 PM
Carton Cutter is what like.
https://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/(0ptgi5ne03p2aczrioe41i55)/ProductDetails.aspx?SKU=998007485&SessionExpired=True

Takes a single edge razor blade, when it gets dull, remove and insert the other end of blade and this way one essentially gets two blades from one blade.

Besides cutting, this cutter also allows one to remove blade, and re insert into the bottom of handle to have a scraper , which is ideal to remove decals.
I keep one in the truck, and one huge tip, is when is traveling, and bugs get all on a windshield, is to use this scraper to remove bugs, then use the windshield cleaning tool at the gas station to get a clean windshield.

Removes bugs from head lights too.

Flat, no clip, no lanyard hole, just a flat light weight tool that is easy to open and close one handed, as it retracts into self, and there is nothing that folds, so nothing to fold and close up, or break.


Growing up, all the grocery store employees had these, as the various vendors for Coke, Coffee, Sugar, Flour, Molasses, Baby Food and everyone gave these to grocery stores.

Same thing for hardware, drug stores, tractor supply, feed and seed, automotive...

I still prefer these to box cutters, and super knives.
Then again I "are" old.

*wink*

The Tourist
March 29, 2008, 07:39 PM
I just wish they made a high quality one

I've had good luck with the ones I bought. In fact, one of the purple ones was one of the first items they made.

As to definition, that's an area for debate. What my clients call "that flat spot" in reality is the "ricasso." I don't get bent out of shape.

However, within our current terms of defining cutting tools, if the knife in question has a permanent handle and a disposable razor blade, it's a "box cutter."

Frankly, I consider the SuperKnife a great idea and one of the most useful tools out there. Even a guy who is all thumbs can have a razor sharp blade with him every day. I use mine every day after the UPS delivery and I'm still on my first dispenser of Stanley blades. (When one side dulls, you just turn it around.)

Considering all of the shrink wrap, cardboard and string I cut in a day, I prefer my Razel. Of course, my sharpening tools are right there in front of me at work. Not everyone is that lucky. For them, the SuperKnife provides the same advantage--razor sharp tool, instant replacement.

BTW, if I'm assaulted by a Daisy BB gun, then that Red Rider is, in fact, an "assault rifle," isn't it. :D

sm
March 29, 2008, 08:00 PM
BTW, if I'm assaulted by a Daisy BB gun, then that Red Rider is, in fact, an "assault rifle," isn't it.

Actually down here in da South where I is...

Southern Attitude Adjustment Tool.
Then again we use this term for hickory axe handles and other "tools" too.

*grin*

The Tourist
March 29, 2008, 08:17 PM
Actually down here in da South where I is...

Here is Wisconsin at least one of the spare tires in a new car must be a "cheese wheel" and you must bow your head when you say "Favre."

On the bright side, if law enforcement catches you with Kuryakyn chrome on real Harley-Davidson, it is now only a misdemeanor.

sixgunner455
March 29, 2008, 08:36 PM
Grocery store employees around here are using paring knives or boxcutters. Some of them have both on their belts, in leather pouches. Some of the paring knives look like they are decent quality, others are the 1 or 2 dollar giveaways.

That's what gave me the idea to actually slick up a good one and carry it around. I think my dad may have a kitten if he ever sees me with it, but I think it will be fun. And a bit funny!

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