[snuffy]

I wanted an adjustable measure that would be case activated for my new classic turret. I thought that the "perfect" measure was meant to be, could be used on the turret press. I knew that I needed a lee universal charging die. What I didn't realize is, the return chain has to be pulled back by the ram. Since the charging die rotates with the turret, the chain couldn't be hooked to the ram. Anyway, here's what I came up with to MAKE it work!??

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It works to some degree. You have to watch it to make sure it returns to the fill position, otherwise you get a partial/no charge! I'm still in the inventing stage, I may come up with another means of returning the measure to the fill position. I had a heavier spring on it, but the cheesy link to the bead chain wouldn't take the pressure. The second lock ring is I think from a lyman die. I put a 10-23 screw in where the set screw was to anchor the bottom of the spring.

I may just give up on this idea and go with a double stack disc set up for the auto disc measure. Oh, it's set up for .223. The metering stem hits the safety prime, but manages to get past it.

So waddaya think? Do I have too much time on my hands?

[shootinxd]

I was under the same impression that it would work with the turret press.Lets me know if you find an accurate measure for the lee turret,I dont really like the double disc set up for 223.

[dagger dog]

Somewhere back in the cob webs I remember a statment printed by Lee that the measure will not work with the powder through expander die.
But hey it looks like you're headed in the right direction. If you get it whipped, patent then sell it to LEE!

[kennedy]

I e-mailed lee awhile back and they comfirmed it was not meant to work on a turrent press, but the lee auto disk will, which is what I use and it works great.

[snuffy]

I may send an e-mail to lee with my pics as an attachment. With the genius of Richard Lee, he may come up with something that makes better sense that what I've done. Since Hornady has their case activated linkage, why shouldn't lee? Mr. Lee may be heading in a completely different direction, possibly a new measure complete with a case activated linkage?! Oh well. we can only hope.:D

[CBS220]

Lee has come up with some pretty revolutionary stuff. If anyone counts as a reloading genius, I think he would be it.

OP, try the Autodisk with the double-disk riser.

[RustyFN]

Looks good snuffy. Can you just make the spring a little tighter so it will return to fill. I have been looking at a thread by Dave and am looking into installing a Uniflow on my turret.
Rusty

[leadburner]

Snuffy, Lee already makes a powder thru die measure,as you said,the auto disc,that is case activated.You can get the adjustable charge bar that should give rifle charges.

[snuffy]

I already have a pro disc measure. What I needed was the double disc with the riser to accommodate them. Unfortunately midway was out of stock! :fire: :banghead: :cuss: They now have them in, but the first of the month is upon us, no money!$$$$:uhoh::what: By the time the cash becomes available, they'll be on backorder again.:scrutiny:

I believe the hornady case activated measure should work on the lee turret. I have one, but it pretty much stays on the dillon 650. I may put it on the turret. I have another base that makes the switcheroo easier.

My problem with the double disc is it doesn't have enough capacity for large rifle loads. Also you're stuck with whatever two cavities will throw. I want to be able to load magnums and have infinite adjustability.

[azhunter12]

What lamp did you get it from?

[snuffy]

http://photos.imageevent.com/jptowns/garden03/websize/P2080002_edited.JPG

The bead chain, or the spring? The bead chain comes with the universal powder die from lee. The spring is sold at the local fleet farm store.

[DaveInFloweryBranchGA]

Snuffy,

You can get just a base die for your Hornady LnL CAPD. Check out the Hornady website so you know what it looks like, then pick one up from Midway. Makes changing the CAPD and a RCBS Uniflow a piece of cake. BTW, don't use the LnL powder measure on a Lee Classic Turret, it's too big and heavy for that press.

Should resolve your powder problems related to volume and extruded powders. It did mine.

Regards,

Dave

[snuffy]

Thanks Dave, but the problem is I have the older CAPD, they no longer sell the base die for that. I also have the older Hornady measure, so it's lighter and should work. I do have 2 base dies, so I can rob 1 from a dillon tool head to try it out on the turret.

One of the problems with the lee "perfect" measure is it is hardly smooth in it's operation. Another thing is the universal powder die has a drop tube that the measure hooks to that does not fit very well, it binds when retracting. So a lot of spring pressure is needed to retract the measure back to the fill position. The clips that hook into the bead chain are thin pressed brass, hardly strong enough for that kind of pressure.

I'm gonna take that mess off the press, file it as a failed project, no conclusion. I can see it could result in a partial charge, or worse, no charge. As far as consistency went, the charges would vary by as much as .3 grains +- . Since it was a mid range load, I wasn't concerned.

[DaveInFloweryBranchGA]

If you can find someone that buys from Jerry's whole sale, you may find they still have a few of the older capd bases in stock. If not, PM me, as I think I have an extra I can let loose of.

Dave

[cracked butt]

I tried something like your setup awhile back and gave up on it. The LPPM is just too flimsy and the Lee case activated die puts too much stress on the LPPM's drum for my comfort level. I just use a universal charging die and manually run the powder measure now.

[71Commander]

How did you get the powder drop mounted to the die?

[lonewolf5347]

http://loadmastervideos.com/main.html
there maybe someting here that might help

[71Commander]

Great link and thanks but I didn't help. That show the disc powder system. The OP has a perfect powder measure attached to the powder thru die. I wonder how he attached that unit to the die.:confused:

[snuffy]

I wonder how he attached that unit to the die.

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=652922

http://www.leeprecision.com/cgi/catalog/browse.cgi?1207239535.2600=/html/catalog/powhan2.html#UniversalChargingDie

It's the lee universal charging die that attaches the measure to the turret. It's made for the loadmaster and I think the pro 1000? Those have a stationary tool head, the ram is used to pull the bead chain down to reset the measure. It would also work for a single stage press that was set up just for powder charging,(it would be very time consuming to set it up to charge during a loading session).

I tried something like your setup awhile back and gave up on it. The LPPM is just too flimsy and the Lee case activated die puts too much stress on the LPPM's drum for my comfort level.

CB, that's what I found, it's just not solid enough to work with the side stress my arrangement put on it.