Mateba MTR-8


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Meowhead
August 11, 2003, 12:09 PM
http://pubweb.nwu.edu/~jll936/MatebaMTR8-1.jpg
http://pubweb.nwu.edu/~jll936/MatebaMTR8-2.jpg

This is the Mateba MTR-8. Just a DA revolver in .38 Special. The hammer is concealed within the frame, but connected to a lever which allows cocking for single-action shooting. It holds eight rounds, which are held by a baseplate that's something of a cross between moonclip and speedloader. This circular plate is an integral part of the mechanism; the gun won't function without it.

Yeah, that's basically all I know. The information was gathered from searching Google, TFL and THR. Does anyone else here know anything else about this gun, or any other Matebas that came before the semiauto revolver? Most importantly...could anyone tell me where I can get one of these things? **** I WANT ONE.

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Navy joe
August 11, 2003, 05:22 PM
**** I WANT ONE.

Wow, same thing I said. Why doesn't this gun show up in movies, it for sure has the cool looks factor.

MJRW
August 11, 2003, 05:41 PM
While cool, I don't know that I would be too keen on the size of a 6" barrel revolver with snubby revolver performance.

PlayTheAces
August 11, 2003, 08:57 PM
That is pretty different. Does anyone know if the design actually gives any advantages in shooting, or is it more of a "wow" factor?

Coronach
August 11, 2003, 09:30 PM
Balance looks to be terrible.

Big gun, with a 3" barrel? Hmmmmm. Nice sight radius, though.

I'm guessing: 9.8 for Wow Value, 3.2 for Utility Value

Mike

Standing Wolf
August 11, 2003, 10:02 PM
I like stippled stocks; as for the rest of the gun...

Kalos
August 11, 2003, 10:41 PM
I've always got to give the proper respect to anyone who isn't afraid to veer away from the conventional designs; just 'cause that's 'the way it's always been done' doesn't mean it can't be done better. So, mad props to Mateba in general.

That said, this particular one seems like a poor combination of size and performance. Maybe it's just that I like long barrels aesthetically, though, and hate to see all that 'wasted' space. (In other words, I think it's fugly.)

Now, the Mateba 'autorevolver' 6 Unica is a different story entirely... :D

Meowhead
August 14, 2003, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by Kalos:
(In other words, I think it's fugly.)BLASPHEMER! :D
Well, okay. Maybe it's not the most efficient design out there. It looks to be muzzle heavy, with a short barrel...the balance and low bore axis would make it really good for rapid follow-up shots, but that's about all. Besides, fugly is in the eye of the beholder.

Anyway, you think THAT'S hideous? Behold this masterpiece. Another Mateba. I don't know much about it unfortunately, but managed to track down some images; one of the real thing, one of a 3d model.
http://pubweb.nwu.edu/~jll936/matebaunknown.jpg
http://pubweb.nwu.edu/~jll936/mateba2006M.jpg

Kharn
August 14, 2003, 02:15 PM
I now know what gun to bring when confronting an individual armed with a football bat. That thing is hideous. Is it C&R, and how much? :p

Kharn

Meowhead
August 14, 2003, 06:14 PM
Is it C&R, and how much?Probably not. Too new, too obscure. As to price..I don't even know what it's called, much less where to buy one, or how much.

Have another image.
http://pubweb.nwu.edu/~jll936/m207.gif
This, I guess, is the mystery Mateba drawn by Masamune Shirow. Design for the Ghost in the Shell movie. One of the secondary characters in it carried the thing, and thus it shows up everywhere when I search for Mateba wheelguns. Unfortunately, anime and RPG websites aren't the best sources of information when it comes to obscure weaponry. Let's see, it does +3 damage against used sanitary napkins, and takes 398 1/2 action tokens to reload, arrrgh

While on the subject of misinformation, have a look at this gem (http://securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/1100/1143.htm) from SecurityArms. Nice research there, buddy. Idiot.

Kharn
August 14, 2003, 06:21 PM
Meowhead: I meant the MTR-8. If its obscure, thats all the better for C&R status.

Kharn

Meowhead
August 14, 2003, 06:40 PM
Meowhead: I meant the MTR-8. If its obscure, thats all the better for C&R statusAh, okay. I've never seen the thing for sale in the US, though Mateba's site seems to indicate it is still being sold:
linkage to price list on Mateba site (http://www.mateba-arms.com/pricelist.html)

Kalos
August 14, 2003, 08:17 PM
Huh. Designed -for- the anime? Whoda thunk Shirow Masamune would commission an entire line of production handguns just for authenticity's sake. ;P On the other hand, the 'Standard Issue Big Gun' was 'designed for the anime,' and I know I wouldn't mind having one of those . Maybe I just need to poke around more on Mateba's site. :D

Seriously, though... yeah, that gun is pretty ugly too, but I don't think that's its fault. (Nor is it as ugly as the MTR-8.) I've yet to see a grip on a Mateba revolver that I really like--it looks like they specialize in matte finishes on ugly wood. Actually, now that I take another look at it, the MTR-8 is not so bad, in a rather sinister way. I couldn't see the good guy carrying it in a movie, but the bad guy might, and low-level thugs certainly could. This isn't a bad thing--I couldn't see the good guy carrying my Mk II either. The Joker might, but only if it was the 10" bull barrel version.

I guess I'd have to get it if I saw a really good deal, but only in that case. The Unica 6, however, might well be something I go looking for...

Tamara
August 15, 2003, 01:31 AM
The gun that started this thread was designed for ISU revolver competition. It did fairly well until it was banned. Bear in mind that a "snubby" revolver's rep for less-than-hair-splitting accuracy comes not from its short barrel length, but from its short sight radius.

The Mateba pictured up top combines the low bore axis of an auto with the long sight radius of a full-size revolver, allowing it to clean up in ISU revolver matches where muzzle velocity and speed of reloads don't matter.

4v50 Gary
August 15, 2003, 02:16 AM
It should have been a "break-bottom" revolver or twist open to complete its radical nature. :D

Dr.Rob
August 15, 2003, 03:32 AM
what a bizzare looking rig.

Mataba wins the planet of the apes revolver contest, again.

Trumpet
August 15, 2003, 09:36 AM
"Damn dirty apes!"

I think I saw 'em in the CDNN catalog a couple months ago. They weren't cheap either, like dealer cost is $800. For that kinda dough, I'd rather get a New Colt 70 Series, or, well....anything.

Rich

MJRW
August 15, 2003, 10:46 AM
Tamara, I'm not complaining about snubby performance for accuracy but rather velocity. Totally agreed this would take care of that whole sight radius issue by...umm...doubling it.

Meowhead
August 17, 2003, 01:18 AM
The gun that started this thread was designed for ISU revolver competition.Aha! I THOUGHT I heard something about it being made for competition. Thanks, Tamara.

That seems to indicate some made it into the US...would anyone here know where I could buy one? Anyone? Help?

C.R.Sam
August 17, 2003, 02:45 AM
A...Tam beat me to it.

B...In competition; consistancy is far more important than velocity.

Sam

KC
August 17, 2003, 03:30 AM
"I don't even know what it's called, much less where to buy one, or how much."

These people, http://www.kieslersonline.com/index.asp , have them in stock on ocassion. Darn if these don't look like fun...

BryanP
August 17, 2003, 01:53 PM
Meowhead -

As to price..I don't even know what it's called, much less where to buy one

A quick search on Gunbroker for "mateba" turned up 1 .357 and 5 .44 magnum Mateba's ranging in asking price from $750 - $990. I wouldn't mind having one for the novelty, but not that much.

KC -

These people, http://www.kieslersonline.com/index.asp , have them in stock on ocassion.

Oooh. Thanks for the link. Not for the Mateba but they seem to have decent prices on some other things I want ...

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