A .30-06 LR load


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USSR
March 30, 2008, 08:17 PM
USSR, I believe you posted a load for .30-06 a while back that I would like to get the recipe for. It was a 190 SMK at 2900 fps (!). What was the OAL, powder, and primer used, and is it safe to use?

CBS220,

The LR 190gr .30-06 load was developed by myself and Shane (MontanaMarine on Sniper'sHide.com) about 6 years ago. You would not believe the naysayers when we first posted our results. Now, it usually doesn't even raise an eyebrow. The key to the load is Alliant Reloader 22. This double-based powder fills the case completely, and gives maximum velocity for heavy bullets in the '06. It also does the same thing for the 6.5x55. Shane has run the load thru Quick Load, an internal ballistics/pressure program, and the loads we developed are within the pressure specs for the cartridge. In fact, with my testing, I do not believe you can get enough RL22 powder in the '06 case to get in trouble. Here is my normal load:

Lapua or Lake City Match brass
190SMK bullet
Fed 210M primer
60.7gr RL22 powder
OAL of 3.315"
Velocity 2900fps

The overall length of 3.315" puts my bullet ogive about .010" off the lands, as measured with my Stoney Point OAL Gauge. Make sure you know where your throat is before seating your bullets to a particular depth. Hope that helps.

Don

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PotatoJudge
March 30, 2008, 08:25 PM
The Alliant website shows a max load of 60 grains for 2,755fps. Wonder how you're picking up 155 fps from 0.7 grains of powder.

steve4102
March 30, 2008, 08:41 PM
What barrel length? Here is what QL says with a 24 inch barrel and 68.2 Max case capacity of H20.

Cartridge : .30-06 Spring.
Bullet : .308, 190, Sierra HP MatchK 2210
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.315 inch or 84.20 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch or 609.6 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-22

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 88 48.56 2178 2002 28658 7912 85.8 1.632
-18.0 90 49.77 2237 2111 30681 8197 87.3 1.587
-16.0 92 50.99 2296 2225 32859 8476 88.8 1.542
-14.0 95 52.20 2356 2342 35205 8746 90.2 1.499
-12.0 97 53.42 2416 2463 37735 9007 91.5 1.456
-10.0 99 54.63 2477 2588 40467 9256 92.8 1.408
-08.0 101 55.84 2537 2716 43405 9493 93.9 1.363
-06.0 104 57.06 2598 2848 46617 9716 95.0 1.318
-04.0 106 58.27 2660 2984 50080 9924 96.0 1.276 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 108 59.49 2721 3123 53841 10116 96.8 1.235 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 110 60.70 2782 3266 57931 10289 97.6 1.195 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 112 61.91 2844 3412 62386 10444 98.3 1.157 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 115 63.13 2905 3561 67247 10578 98.8 1.120 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 117 64.34 2967 3713 72569 10690 99.3 1.084 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 119 65.56 3028 3869 78405 10780 99.6 1.049 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 121 66.77 3090 4028 84825 10845 99.9 1.015 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 110 60.70 2931 3624 71387 10089 100.0 1.100 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 110 60.70 2582 2813 46450 9860 90.3 1.318

USSR
March 30, 2008, 08:45 PM
PJ,

I've got a 26" Krieger barrel on this rifle. Just because some reloading manual lists a velocity that THEY obtained with THEIR rifle, doesn't mean that is the velocity you will get with your rifle with that same load. For example: I have another .30-06, a Winchester Match rifle which also has a 26" barrel. With an identical load consisting of a LC Match case, 178gr AMax bullet, Fed 210M primer, and 60.0gr of N160 powder, I get 2950fps out of the Krieger barrel, and only 2875fps out of the Winchester Match barrel.

Don

USSR
March 30, 2008, 08:49 PM
steve4102,

The barrel is a 26" Krieger. However, even with the data you posted, the load is still 2,000 psi below the SAAMI specs for the '06.

Don

PotatoJudge
March 30, 2008, 08:50 PM
Ah, got a fast barrel on your hands. Good for you.

steve4102
March 30, 2008, 08:57 PM
I changed it to a 26 inch barrel. Yep, below SAAMi specs of 60,000psi. Personally I think the 30-06 should be brought up to modern day pressures like the 270.

Cartridge : .30-06 Spring.
Bullet : .308, 190, Sierra HP MatchK 2210
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.315 inch or 84.20 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch or 660.4 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-22

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 88 48.56 2227 2093 28658 7303 87.0 1.708
-18.0 90 49.77 2287 2206 30681 7557 88.5 1.660
-16.0 92 50.99 2347 2323 32859 7804 89.9 1.614
-14.0 95 52.20 2407 2444 35205 8042 91.2 1.569
-12.0 97 53.42 2467 2568 37735 8270 92.5 1.524
-10.0 99 54.63 2528 2696 40467 8487 93.7 1.475
-08.0 101 55.84 2589 2827 43405 8693 94.8 1.428
-06.0 104 57.06 2650 2962 46617 8884 95.7 1.382
-04.0 106 58.27 2711 3100 50080 9062 96.6 1.338 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 108 59.49 2772 3241 53841 9223 97.4 1.296 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 110 60.70 2833 3386 57931 9368 98.1 1.255 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 112 61.91 2894 3534 62386 9495 98.7 1.215 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 115 63.13 2955 3684 67247 9603 99.2 1.176 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 117 64.34 3016 3838 72569 9691 99.6 1.139 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 119 65.56 3077 3995 78405 9758 99.8 1.104 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 121 66.77 3138 4154 84825 9802 100.0 1.069 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 110 60.70 2978 3742 71387 9113 100.0 1.156 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 110 60.70 2634 2928 46450 9049 91.3 1.382

USSR
March 30, 2008, 09:09 PM
steve,

Quick Load is definately nice software; wish I had the $$$ where I could justify the purchase. The other guy (Shane) from Sniper's Hide built a nearly identical rifle (26" heavy contour barrel, McMillan stock, etc.) to mine, only he used a Remington action, while I used a Winchester. He uses moly'd bullets (mine our nakid), and he has to use nearly 62 grains of powder to get the same velocity as I do. Don't know if Quick Load takes that into consideration or not?

Don

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