Stainless steel 1860 Colt Army


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Pancho
April 1, 2008, 03:17 PM
The Replica Percussion Revolver Collector's Association's website shows a stainless 1860 Colt Army. Does anyone know who made it and is it still being made?

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Coyote Hunter
April 1, 2008, 03:22 PM
I bought one at an auction last year.. a Colt Signature series stainless 1860. Couldn't find any info about the rarity of it. It was unfired. I bought it for $300.00 and sold it to an on line dealer for $700.00. I kept thinking I should have kept it, but I would have shot it anyway, I don't have "safe guns". besides I used to money for another gun.

CH

Pancho
April 1, 2008, 06:21 PM
Got an email from the webmaster of RPRCA he says that San Marcos and Uberti made them but no longer make them.

mike101
April 1, 2008, 07:28 PM
The only ones I've ever heard of were 2nd Generation Colt Colts, made in the early '80s. And they didn't make many.

scrat
April 1, 2008, 08:23 PM
sounds like gun broker or auction arms. but i bet they are going to be up there in price. you might as well de blue a 1860 like i did and polish it up

Snaggletooth
April 2, 2008, 02:10 AM
Scrat, I bought a 1860 on Auction Arms that hadnt been finished. It has a brass frame and really looks neat. Its an ASM so you know the grips dont fit. but other than that its great. I just keep her wiped down, No problem.

barneyrw
April 2, 2008, 02:36 AM
STAINLESS STEEL 1860 COLT ARMY:
Colt made 1278 of the 2nd Generation Colt 1860 Army stainless steel from 1/82 to 4/82. I bought an unfired one in the box with all literature for $585 a few months ago. Some of the 3rd Generation Colt 1860 Army Signature Series were nickel plated not stainless. Here's a website on the 2nd and 3rd Generation Colts. https://www.bluebookinc.com/Info/PDF/POWDER/MBPHistoryOfColtBlack.pdf

arcticap
April 2, 2008, 03:09 AM
Check out my post #13. I posted about it on 2 websites to see if anyone was interested, but no one was. :rolleyes:

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=42564&d=1153601178


November 23rd, 2006,
Found one for sale

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I was at an antique gunshow this past weekend and one of the local vendors had an unfired "Colt" Stainless 1860 that appeared to be just like the one in Mec's picture. I even held it!
He said it was made in 1979 and that the serial number ending with an "S" meant that it was indeed stainless. No box or papers and his price was $400.
Is that a good deal? Does anyone here want the gun?

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=211620&highlight=stainless+colt

Pancho
April 2, 2008, 03:51 AM
what's your price aricap?

Old Fuff
April 2, 2008, 11:10 AM
Because many of the parts in a replica cap & ball revolver start off life as investment castings it is not particularly difficult to switch from high carbon to stainless steel. Other parts, such as the cylinder are made from bar stock, and again with modern machine tools a switch can be made. Parts such as the cylinder bolt that are in effect flat springs are harder to make, but not of a major concern.

The bottom line is market demand. The Italians tried it in the 1860 model and Remington New Army (which is not the model 1858 or '58 by the way) and still offer the Remington. For whatever reason the Colt didn't catch on, at least at the price at which they were offered.

If the manufacturers precieve there is a serious market demand for stainless steel C&B revolvers I'm sure they will be forthcoming. They are after all in business to make money. But so far that demand (except for the Remington) haven't showed up on their radar.

Pancho
April 2, 2008, 11:54 AM
It seems, Old Fuff, that the importers and manufacturers are believers in "once bitten". Do you remember that member from France that showed his new Pietta cut down Army with the birds head grip? Years ago they tried that in America without the birds head grips and it didn't sell. I emailed every reputable importer that I knew of to tell them to try it again. I hope that CAS's popularity will tempt the companies to offer more product to us.

Old Fuff
April 2, 2008, 12:34 PM
I think that the European manufacturers seldom hear from users in the United States. They depend on imput from U.S. distributors and improters for information about current or possible future trends. But again, there often isn't a lot of communication between users/buyers and sellers here. Two that I know of that do keep their ear to the ground - especially concerning what's going on in the cowboy action shooting community are EMF and Cimarron.

If folks want a more extensive line of stainless C&B revolvers they'll have to make that interest known, and if they do become available back their choice by placing orders.

So far, I'm not sure that the stainless option is all that important to the majority of percussion or cartridge converted revolver buyers, but I'm more then willing to be proven wrong. Do understand that stainless revolvers would cost more, all other things being equal.

Pancho
April 2, 2008, 03:00 PM
It seems I've never been in the Majority on anything. I'm not a believer that stainless guns can be neglected, I just love stainless and I'd pay extra for it.

arcticap
April 2, 2008, 03:24 PM
Hey Pancho,
That Colt thread was from Nov., 2006, so I doubt that it would still be available.
I had the vendor's phone number at the time, but he wasn't at subsequent shows.
If I could dig up his phone number, I would call him. But I don't know if I could even find it now.
That was his asking price though, $400. It's like the price of gas, ammo & Ruger OA's though, going up daily!
The seller did say that the Colt's internals were not stainless though.
Don't ever quit trying to find your dream SS Colt.
In hindsight, I guess that I should have just bought the piece knowing that you or someone else would have wanted it.
My crystal ball must have seriously been on the fritz! :D

mec
April 2, 2008, 03:25 PM
the guy who owns the one in the picture posted by articap traded a stainless Navy for it. He later found out that the navy was even rarer. both are Colt Second gens from circa 1980. the one in the picture gets shot every now and then and is accurate and never given any problems at all.

scrat
April 2, 2008, 04:01 PM
Wow that is nice

Im283
April 2, 2008, 04:27 PM
looks like my 1851 Navy and the ones you de-blued Scrat.

scrat
April 2, 2008, 04:40 PM
yep. i have two that way now.

bigbadgun
April 2, 2008, 05:28 PM
Scrat so do I my Walker and my 51

mike101
April 5, 2008, 03:45 AM
"I bought one at an auction last year.. a Colt Signature series stainless 1860. Couldn't find any info about the rarity of it. It was unfired. I bought it for $300.00 and sold it to an on line dealer for $700.00."

You should have kept it. This is the cheapest one I've seen so far.

http://www.gunsamerica.com/903580568/Guns/Pistols/Colt-Percussion-Revolver-Modern/M_1860_Army_44_Cal_2nd_Generation_Stainless_Steel_New_In_Box.htm

And a Navy for $1475. I don't know why this guy wants $500 more for the Navy.

http://www.gunsamerica.com/966662438/Guns/Pistols/Colt-Percussion-Revolver-Modern/M_1851_Navy_36_Cal_Octagon_Stainless_Steel_2nd_Gen_New_In_Box.htm

Both available right now, kids!

Yankee John
April 5, 2008, 09:45 PM
I had a gorgeous ASM stainless 1860 that I bought cheap because the seller thought it was nickel-plated, not stainless. Fit and finish were outstanding.

Unfortunately I had to sell it in order to pay a huge vets bill. I still miss it to this day :banghead:

My post #8 in this thread shows some pics of it:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=2873433#post2873433

John

flatheadsal
April 6, 2008, 02:21 PM
here you go Pancho 2 1993 Uberti stainless 1860's, don't think they make them anymore
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh93/flatheadsal/febebay011.jpg

Pancho
April 6, 2008, 04:33 PM
faltheadsal,------------------ I just passed out. That is a thing of beauty.

Pancho
April 6, 2008, 04:35 PM
Flatheadsal, what is that wood handle tool in the presentation box on the left.

flatheadsal
April 6, 2008, 06:54 PM
thanks Panch, thats an old screwdriver I found at a garage sale, think I paid .25 cents for it, looks like it really belongs there dosen't it?

Pancho
April 6, 2008, 07:26 PM
Yes it does. Good lord but I'm enamored with stainless.

flatheadsal
April 6, 2008, 07:49 PM
a little closer up for you Pancho, and don't discount the beauty of a SS Remmie either!!!

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh93/flatheadsal/febebay021.jpg
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh93/flatheadsal/febebay022.jpg

Pancho
April 7, 2008, 12:30 AM
I've got a ss ROA that is beautiful. What I'd buy in a new york minute would be a ss 1862 Colt Police. Since I don't see that happening anytime soon I think I'll deblue one of my Colt Police like scrat did.

flatheadsal
April 7, 2008, 06:36 AM
theres my ss ROA with conversion cyl, love that gun too

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh93/flatheadsal/febebay005.jpg

scrat
April 8, 2008, 10:56 AM
thats a lot of grips

flatheadsal
April 8, 2008, 05:50 PM
sure is Scrat, all pretty good e-bay deals, sort of like the wife changing her blouse 4 times before going out, like to change my grips back and forth, lol

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