Kel-Tec P3AT clip extension


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flphotoguy
April 2, 2008, 02:45 PM
I got the magazine extension from Kel-Tec for my P3AT and the install was a breeze but.... I thought it would increase the capacity from 6 rounds to 7. It didn't. 6 rounds go with no problem, but if I try to insert a 7th there isn't room. Has anyone else had experience with this?

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senior
April 2, 2008, 02:52 PM
I beleive that the extention is meant to be just that, an extention for the pinky, not a mag extention to give u more ammo holding ability, least thats how mine works also.

LightningMan
April 2, 2008, 03:16 PM
Hello, I also got one of these extentions that are supposed to be able to increase the mag. by 1 round. I too found that I was unable to add that 7th round. The kit I bought came with a spring I thought was unnecessarly too long so I clipped a little off and that worked. Was able to get that 7th round in and it would still feed the last round. Worked for me, good luck, LM

gpr
April 2, 2008, 04:40 PM
some times that little 'L' clip gets installed wrong and then the follower can't get passed....i also had a follower hang up on the extention/mag body, just take the sharp edge off the follower...gpr

rcmodel
April 2, 2008, 05:02 PM
It does add 1 round if you do it right.

The follower is probably hanging up on the sharp edge of the extension.
Or the L-Clip is in wrong.

http://www.1bad69.com/keltec/magext.htm

rcmodel

blackcash88
April 2, 2008, 05:52 PM
The L-clip goes OUTSIDE the back of the extension. I have several and never had a problem. They're really quite simple to install.

flphotoguy
April 2, 2008, 10:05 PM
blackcash had it right. The L-clip on the bottom has to be outside of the magazine. I made the change and now I can get in 7 rounds, although it is very tight. I haven't tried it at the range yet. It may sound trivial for one round but with one in the chamber, and an additional six round clip, you can have 14 rounds in your pocket. That's pretty reassuring.

VTKFJoe
April 3, 2008, 10:28 AM
The instructions are pretty clear about the "L" clip but many people still install it wrong. My 7th round goes in as easy as the other 6. I too like 14 in the pocket.

Joe

DawgFvr
April 3, 2008, 10:59 AM
What's that point of one more .380 round? The only viable reason for the P3AT is the fact that it will slide into a pocket and is relatively easy to draw and present from the pocket. It just barely does that in its stock configuration...and now you want to add length to the grip? That would make it more difficult to draw/present striking out its only true advantage IMHO: Bad idea.

GigaBuist
April 3, 2008, 11:10 AM
That would make it more difficult to draw/present striking out its only true advantage IMHO: Bad idea.

6+1 in the gun and 7 for your reload.

DawgFvr
April 3, 2008, 11:19 AM
It is already a "finicky" pistol to reload...why change the stock mag configuration and chance a miss-feed for a meager one round advantage? I'd say you were inducing unreliability in a weapon that is prone to malfunction.

TennVOL
April 3, 2008, 12:28 PM
I thought KT's had magazines. When I read the title of this thread I thought it was about the pocketclip for the KT.

LightningMan
April 3, 2008, 02:28 PM
Hello again, I too after I installed the mag. extention didn't like it for pocket carry, so I opt to leave it off but it is nice to have on while shooting it at the range, as it's easier to control. LM

Rex B
April 3, 2008, 03:20 PM
I don't use the mag +1 extension, but I do use the NAA or Bersa pinkie lip. Without it, I might as well be gripping a bar of soap. I just never feel like I have control of it.
But I'd prefer it were slightly smaller. I may need to go back and look at that +1 extension.

sort00
April 3, 2008, 10:13 PM
A picture please?? So I can change 1 of Mags.

Dan-O
April 4, 2008, 09:58 AM
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w71/dantruesdale/100_1797.jpg

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w71/dantruesdale/100_1795.jpg

I think it makes the gun more controllable for follow up shots, and makes the gun more accurate.

DawgFvr
April 4, 2008, 10:21 AM
I can see the Bersa "pinkie lip". I, too, added that on as it did not affect the OEM magazine's function in any way and it improves the handling greatly.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e61/DawgFvr/Kel-Tec/KD-Holster2.jpg

An extension to the OEM mag, on the other hand, could very possibly affect the feed reliability; why mess with it for one additional round??????

flphotoguy
April 4, 2008, 12:44 PM
An extension to the OEM mag, on the other hand, could very possibly affect the feed reliability; why mess with it for one additional round??????
The magazine extension is made by Kel-Tec, so it is OEM. The logic behind the additional round would be to fire 7, change magazines and fire 7 (or 8) more, if needed. The slide on the P3AT does not stay open on last round fired, so leaving the extra round in the chamber can save time when switching magazines. That one extra round could indeed make a BIG difference.

DawgFvr
April 4, 2008, 05:11 PM
flphotoguy...I stand corrected. Kel Tec does make the one round extension mag. It is OEM.

Having said that, I could not possibly fit the P3AT w/the one round extension in my pocket. The weapon barely fits my pocket now; as it is, I can just get my hand in and draw it fairly well. With the extension? Nope...doesn't work for me. Now...why carry back-up mag with the one round extension? I mean, hell, the mags are so small...just carry three or four regular back-ups.

I just do not see the logic to it at all.

flphotoguy
April 5, 2008, 11:11 AM
I keep my P3AT in a Sting holster and it fits nicely in just about every pocket I have. The mag extension is so small, it makes no difference at all as far as size goes but does give the gun a better feel. Here's how it looks in a Desantis Sting:
http://haviland.org/images/ktsting.jpg

kanderson586
April 5, 2008, 01:04 PM
I have no probs with my extension, but i only have it on my spare mag. If your only carrying .380acp i think EVERY round counts.

tinygnat219
April 5, 2008, 03:32 PM
The mag extension works just fine for all three of my P3AT Magazines. I couldn't fire the gun without them.

DawgFvr
April 5, 2008, 03:51 PM
hmmm, you must own larger pants than I...those just might fit in dockers...certainly not in levis...not mine anyway. Look...if/when I resort to carrying my P3At, it goes with three spare mags. No need to add one round to an extended clip that would hang-up on a pocket draw. To each his own...much ado about nothing.

FranklyTodd
April 18, 2008, 01:14 PM
keep my P3AT in a Sting holster and it fits nicely in just about every pocket I have.

I have a new LCP and was looking at the Sting holster - I think the idea is great.

However, I am alarmed that the trigger seems to be totally exposed. In your pic, is the gun down in where it's supposed to be??

I noticed a similar thing when trying out the Nemesis. The one for P3AT showed too much trigger with the LCP (but less than your Sting pic). The one for the Beretta Tomcat fit better IMHO. I didn't get it, as I'd love to get a pocket holster with the spare mag holder...

blackcash88
April 18, 2008, 02:23 PM
Yeah, it looks like a bad design. It appears that the pistol is not fully seated because the grip is hitting the spare magazine. BAD idea to have the entire trigger exposed. Defeats the major purpose of having a pocket holster in the first place.

freebird
April 19, 2008, 02:02 AM
I think the extra round extension is very unreliable. I bought two for both of my clips and I personally do not feel comfortable with them. I have them just sitting in my Gun case. Anyone wants them they can have them! Too shotty feeling for my Preference! Now the "pinky extension" I may see a need for in the future. I carry my P3at in a Don Hume Holster and it will fit easily in any of my pants pockets. Just my two cents.........:)

DirksterG30
April 19, 2008, 10:21 AM
I think the extra round extension is very unreliable. I bought two for both of my clips and I personally do not feel comfortable with them. I have them just sitting in my Gun case. Anyone wants them they can have them!

I found the +1 mag extension to be 100% reliable in my P3AT. I'll take your extension if you don't want it. What do you want for it?

flphotoguy
April 28, 2008, 09:45 PM
However, I am alarmed that the trigger seems to be totally exposed. In your pic, is the gun down in where it's supposed to be??The gun is down as far as it can go. Yes, some of the trigger is exposed, but that is not an issue for me. Nothing goes in that pocket except the holster. It is not hard to draw safely either. While the extra mag is nice, in reality it would require switching hands to grab the 2nd mag and insert it in the gun. You better be ambidextrous!

JERRY
April 29, 2008, 12:47 PM
seems to be in line with the double cheese burger combo meal and a diet coke.

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