[boots]

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pics are of my TTN 1878 colt repro and accompanying knife is a busse game fatty game warden...

[Dave McCracken]

Nice looking gun. How does it shoot?....

[gp911]

I want one of those so bad... Hard to beat for the price. Yours has an especially nice finish to it.

I'd like one as a bedside piece, personally...


gp911

[45Guy]

That's beautiful! What kind of shotgun, and knife is that?

[boots]

it shoots great...patterns really tight for an open choke...hits dead on with slugs out to about 3o yards...


the gun is a ttn 1878 colt reproduction and the knife is a busse game warden...


.270" thick!!! pretty thick for a knife with a 3" blade...

[boots]

i think the finish has actually gotten better since i first bought it...

in my spare time, i have been hand rubbing it with a silicone cloth...

[SASS#23149]

Very nice. !!

the TTN's I"ve seen are built like a bank vault,should last a looooong time.

[Patrick_Henry]

How much do those usually go for?

[boots]

the shotgun goes for about $400...

the busse goes for about $200...

[45Guy]

Oops didnt read under the pics, but thanks for responding to my dumb@$$ery

[MAX100]

I know some of you will not want to hear this but the imported TTN and EMF Co. coach guns are made in China. They are a very high quality reproduction of the 1878 Colt hammer coach shotgun. The Cowboy Actions Shooter love them. The hammers angled in close for fast dual cocking. They come with reduce power hammer springs installed. There is supposed to be a case harden receiver model coming out soon. Nice well made Shotguns.

Review by: Hero's Arms


This reproduction of a Colt 1878 Model SxS Hammer Shotgun was made in China specifically for Cowboy Action shooting. It is, as far as I can tell, an absolutely authentic copy of the Colt 1878 which Hero's Arms sold to the importer in 2002, which they subsequently sent to China. The variance from the original are principally for safety in that it has fluid steel barrels, instead of Damascus, and 3" chambers for modern shells. It is built to a very high standard, both barrels are an absolutely straight .733" inside diameter, unusual on all but the highest quality guns, the wood to metal fit is excellent, and the gun functioned flawlessly for a round of skeet. As with the original there is no safety, aside from not cocking the hammers. Again, as with the original it has a very large drop at the comb and heel, and a steel buttplate. This should be a very authentic Old West style coach gun for Cowboy Action shooting. It could also be a reasonable home defense gun because the hammers provide a visible indication of cocking.

HA527

Gauge(s): 12 Stock type: Prince of Wales

Make: TTN Barrel(s) I. D. .733"/.733"

LOP: 14 7/16" | 13 1/2"

Model: Colt 1878 Repro. Bbl. length: 20"

DAC: 2" Chamber: 2 3/4" & 3"

Action: Side-By-Side

Ejector/Extractor: Extractor

DAH: 3 1/8" Finish: Blue/Satin

Choke: Fixed Cylinder Bore

Butt Plate: Steel Safety: None

Rib: Solid-Taper .39"->.31"

Trigger: type Double Triggers O/A Length: 36 5/8"

Trigger pull 6 lb 15 oz|8 lb 1 oz Gun weight: 8 lbs 2 oz

Price:MSRP $475 Sales for: $425

[fatguynlittlecoat]

I know a busse when I see one...that gun is very sexy as well...

Personally I like the knife better.

[Dark Tranquility]

A couple of questions:

Once the hammers are cocked can you open and close the action freely?

What’s this I keep reading about reduced power hammer springs? Wouldn’t this make it less reliable? Are full power hammer springs available?

Also, is this the same company as Norinco?

Thanks, Dan

[MAX100]

The reduced power springs in them are very reliable. The Cowboy Competition Shooters use them.


GC

[Dark Tranquility]

This thing looks pretty nice. I’ve been looking for an exposed hammer double to chop down into a big pistol for a while now. I think this one is the best I’ve seen yet. I’ve heard of a couple reposts of people “wearing out” the Stogers double barrel guns. I don’t know what you could were out on a double barrel shotgun but if someone is doing that I’ll avoid them. Any similar reports with these?

Thanks, Dan

[MAX100]

Check some of the Cowboy Action forums there is plenty info about these coach guns and others. These coach guns are highly regarded among the Cowboy competitors. They shoot hundreds if not thousands of rounds through them each year. There is a cheaper model that is also made by Norinco for $250. The quality is not as good though.


GC

[Sun195]

Are they still importing these? Their website seems to be down.

[boots]

A couple of questions:

Once the hammers are cocked can you open and close the action freely?

What’s this I keep reading about reduced power hammer springs? Wouldn’t this make it less reliable? Are full power hammer springs available?

Also, is this the same company as Norinco?

Thanks, Dan


the action can be opened and closed with the hammers cocked...i am very wary of decocking with a live shell, so i usually break open the action, remove the live shells, then decock after the chambers are empty...


they do come with reduced power hammer springs for easier cocking, but i have yet to have any types of ignition problems...i have shot federal, remington, sellior bellot, aguila, winchester, and all types of ammo without any types of failures...

but if the reduced power springs bother you, i am sure you can order a set of full power springs from EMF or cimmaron

and no, they are not the same as the norinco coach guns....i believe the norincos come with a tang safety and i have read that norinco have a lower build quality than these TTN's...

[boots]

Are they still importing these? Their website seems to be down.

they are imported by TTN, but distributed by EMF and also by Cimarron....

here they are:

cimarron link (http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/Shotgun/Shotguns.htm#)

EMF link (http://www.emf-company.com/shotguns.htm)


as far as i can see, both companies are still distributing the TTN coach gun...

[Robert Hairless]

From the photos it's a handsome shotgun and the comments here make it seem attractive. I've no great experience with side by side shotguns but those I've used seem to be sturdy. Are parts and repairs for this one a possible concern?

[MAX100]

EMF has very good customer service and TTN has also. I don't know about Cimarron. Here a Cowboy Action Forum that gives some feedback on the TTN coach guns.

http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php?topic=13094.msg164049

Here are pictures of the new Color case model.

http://arms2armor.com/store/product616.html

Here is a Cowboy Action Gun Smith that does action work on the TTN shotguns, Repairs if needed.

http://www.grinergunworks.com/cowboy_action.htm


TTN International Inc. 23192 Alcalde, Ste-I Laguna Hills, CA 92653 Phone: 949-661-4439 Fax: 949-496-8381.



GC

[Robert Hairless]

Many thanks, Max. Tempting shotgun.

[owlhoot]

I've been shooting one of these TTN doubles for five years or so. I've put more than 5000 rounds through it, both smokeless and black powder.

This gun is built like a tank yet is quite elegant. If you intend to seriously compete with it, it wants a little bit of slicking up. If you want it for HD or whatever, it doesn't need a thing.

I strongly recommend this shotgun if you want a short SXS.

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

Nice looking gun - I guess it HAS to have a female name, what with having 2 nipples and all. :)

[Robert Hairless]

My experience with 12 gauge double barrels is that they kick worse than a mule, but I've never tried a reduced recoil load in one. Do you think it would make a substantial improvement in that respect?

I do wish you hadn't posted those photos. I'm highly suggestible. :)

[boots]

the great thing about this particular coach gun is its weight...

it is very compact, but built extremely heavy...a little over 8 lbs...it weighs just about as much as my remington 870 marine magnum...

i guess i am not recoil sensitive, because to me, this gun does not really kick that much harder than my remingtons...i have shot standard power slugs and full power 00 buck without any problems...

by the way, i stand 5'9" and 145lbs...

i love that big boom....however, do not fire both barrels at the same time...you might break the stock and tweak your shoulder a little...don't ask me how i know...;)


forgot to mention that the only mod on my gun is a slip-on pachy decelerator recoil pad....it really dampens the recoil...makes it fun to shoot...

[Robert Hairless]

Then you most definitely are much less recoil sensitive than I am.

I shoot 12 gauge slugs through an 870 or a Benelli without feeling much of anything, but buckshot out of every coach gun I've shot rattles my brain and my eyeballs. Birdshot is better but even it gives me a mighty wollop.

I'm heavier and a bit taller than you, and I know how to hold a shotgun. Nevertheless yours is a beauty, especially for a Chinese import.

[MAKster]

The TTNs appear to be much heavier than the Spartan and Stoeger models. Does this make a significant reduction in the harsh recoil that many of the coachguns have?