[Badger Arms]

Okay, name this issue weapon. Be careful.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=430076

[max popenker]

Canadian DIEMACO C8.

[Andrew Wyatt]

"Frankenstein"

[Barrelmaker]

WALLY:D

[BDM]

Looks like an A1 lower or 653 carbine lower M16 upper the first ones with no forward assist and an M4A1 barrel assy with a RAS so I would say an M16,653,4A1 "Big Time Hybrid"put together with whatever serviceable parts because we need carbines rifle.:banghead:

[Schuey2002]

Be careful.
Why? Is it gonna' go off?? :confused:

[Badger Arms]

Clues: It has a name. It IS a frankenstein gun, but made to a specification. It's NOT Canadian, eh. Nobody's gotten close yet.

[BDM]

MODEL 727?

[boing]

Garcia Bronco! (http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=137218&highlight=garcia+bronco)

[Andrew Wyatt]

it's israeli.

[Badger Arms]

Nope. I don't consider this a trick question. It's just that you have to do a little digging to find out what it is.

[ozarak]

looks like a standard USAF M16 that has been "upgraded" with a M4 barrel. when i was active duty i carried and orginal m16 slickside up till around 93 when we finally got A2's (FN's BTW).

when we worked certain areas or our atv patrols we would draw xm177's.

[buzz_knox]

I'm pretty sure it's Israeli. They've converted some original M16s to M4 configs.

[Kharn]

"What happens when you lose your duty weapon and have to cobble something together from spare parts you pilfered from the armorer's tent before your Sgt finds out."

Kharn

[gun-fucious]

Philipino Armalite with War on Terrorism high speed low drag upgrade?

[cslinger]

Is that that Knight Armament AR-47 that takes both AR and AK magazines or something to that effect. As you can see my knowledge is vast on this particular gun:rolleyes: so I will shut up before my stupidity overwhelms all of us.

Chris

[Badger Arms]

Wow... I thought some zoomie would have gotten it by now. Wait, there's a clue.

[buzz_knox]

Hmm. Zoomie refers to a member of the Air Force, which adopted the AR-15 originally for security forces. So, it's an original AR-15 (pre M-16) converted to M4 config.

[gun-fucious]

OK, its not a Philipino Armalite cause the operator is in desert camo

so the gun is in Iraq or Afghanistan

the lack of wear on the OD gear would point to Iraq

The SOPMOD M4 is based on the A3 detachable handled upper
and this one has an A1

the lower has a raised mag fence but i don't see three way selector labeling

there is an Olde School Stoyaway grip with the hinged door
and the telestock looks like a well worn aluminum tubed one

the newest thing on the gun is the Knights RAS front end with the tactical top sling interface

the AR-47 has a steeper rake to the mag well and is a 2003 product

this baby has been around the block

[Andrew Wyatt]

It's a GAU somethingorother. the PJ's use them. The israelis also use car-15s with m4 barrels, though.

[JShirley]

Non-detachable carry handle and no FA.

Losing...interest...

[BigG]

Fence around mag release but no forward assist. Me like!

[Gewehr98]

In the last several years, my Air Force M16 qualifications included a gun assembled from a slick (No forward assist, no brass deflector, windage-only rear sight) upper mounted on an early government-contract Colt Safe/Semi/Auto AR-15 lower, with a new replacement HBAR/round handguard barrel and front sight assembly.

The following year, it was that same early Colt AR-15 lower, now with a FN-supplied Safe/Semi/Burst trigger group, and FN M16A2 upper. Turns out there was a big contract given to FN to bring these early Colts closer to more current guns.

So it doesn't surprise me to see that slick-upper M-4, it was probably field-expedient. ;)

[Barrelmaker]

YAWN:rolleyes:

[BigG]

That's the M4 Bastard. :D

[Newton]

Can we have the answer please, preferably before we start collecting Social Security.

[Tropical Z]

boing,your'e a crazy nut!:D

[Badger Arms]

15 hours and the natives are already restless... Alright, it's a GAU somethingorother like Andrew said, but the exact designation of GAU-?????? hasn't been mentioned. While it's essentially a rebuild, it is indeed built to specification. It took me a little research to find out. Any PJ's or Combat controllers out there?

[gun-fucious]

http://feistyrooster.com/XM177/xm1771.jpg
GAU-5/A/A

was this purpose built to match the Stargate SG-1 rifle?

[Badger Arms]

No, but IIRC, the GAU-5A/A rifles all have the suppressors removed and replaced with M-16 style birdcage suppressors. That's a picture of a XM177 or perhaps a GAU-5/A prior to the conversion. Not quite the same thing. All the GAU-5's I've seen have had the 11.5" barrel with the birdcage Flash Suppressors. This makes it an A/A model whereas the shorter 10.5" is simply a single "A." But the gun the PJ is carrying in the photo is not the "A" model or the "A/A" model

[lefteyedom]

Looks like the GUAs we had in the AF forever. Mostly K-9 handlers and SP flight chiefs carried them. Now everybody has M4.... Nothing new under the sun

[VINTAGE-SLOTCARS]

Ok what kind of Stoner??

[EdLaver]

I've got it!!!! M4 clone!!!! Really who cares, its no different from any M4 based rifle. When I opened the thread I thought it would be something like a milsurp or WWI or WWII era gun.

[Kind of Blued]

Frank. After careful consideration, I'd like to name it Frank.

[Master Blaster]

Booger, cause every body picked a winner.

[Funderb]

its not a mosin nagant, so we know it's not a REAL gun.
:neener:

[Al Thompson]

Shamelessly stolen from a posting by Dan Watters:

The USAF’s GAU-5 series started with the original XM177, and consists of four variants differing primarily in barrel length. The models are the GAU-5A, GAU-5A/A, GAU-5A/B, and GAU-5P. Only the GAU-5A/B possessed a forward assist; they appear to be surplus XM177E2 absorbed into USAF inventory.

The GAU-5P is the longest, equipped with a 14.5" barrel. Many of the older weapons were eventually converted to this variant when the individual weapon required rebarreling.

Several years back, the GAU-5 still in USAF service were eventually upgraded with a 14.5" M4-configuration barrel using a 1-7" twist. These upgraded models were redesignated GUU-5P.

As of November 2002, the USAF began to procure flat-top M4 fitted with the M68 CCO to replace their older M16/M16A2 rifles and GAU-5/GUU-5 carbines.

[blkbrd666]

Suzie...unless it has done something wrong, then I'd call it by its full name...Jennifer Suzanne (owner's last name here).

[243winxb]

Many photos here to ID a m16 http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=123&t=241681

[Blakenzy]

What does GAU or GUU mean?

[243winxb]

What does GAU or GUU mean? (GAU = Gun, Aircraft, Unit.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM177#GUU-5.2FP

[aka108]

Whatever it is I wouldn't want it.

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

I will call it "Jenny" - no wait, "MaryAnn". :)

[gvnwst]

Well, it looks like a old DPMS A1 that is sitting in a nearby gunshop, but with the railed handguards and collapisible stock. Like that REALLY old DPMS......


So, what is it actually?

[ants]

I noticed this is a 5 year old thread.

Is the original poster still around? I wonder what happened to the rifle.

[Wanta B]

And Frank's still kick'n.;)

[Izaak Walton]

Billy Maze here with the new...!!!!:D