Hollywood Liberals & the MSM still Not Forgiving Charlton Heston:


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Winchester 73
April 11, 2008, 11:32 PM
These sickening ,remorseless souls(specially George Clooney)should not have been breathing the same air as Mr.Heston.
I firmly believe there is a special place in Hell reserved for them.
But at least one journalist stands up.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/BrianFitzpatrick/2008/04/10/no_forgiving_charlton_heston

No forgiving Charlton Heston
By Brian Fitzpatrick
Thursday, April 10, 2008

My grandfather, a college football star, played for the NFL champion Providence Steam Roller back in 1928, so this weekend I was looking forward to seeing George Clooney’s new 1920s football movie, Leatherheads. That’s before I found out how Clooney, like many lefties in Hollywood and the news media, had treated the late Charlton Heston.

Clooney’s offense took place a few years back. According to Life Site News, “For his conservative stands, however, Heston was attacked and reviled by his Hollywood colleagues. In 2003 actor and leftist political activist George Clooney joked about Heston’s illness [Alzheimer’s disease], and, after Heston criticized him for the remark, he retorted, ‘I don’t care. Charlton Heston is the head of the National Rifle Association. He deserves whatever anyone says about him.’”

Making fun of somebody with Alzheimer’s disease and feeling no remorse is about as low as it gets, but it isn’t all that surprising in this case. To Clooney, Heston’s embrace of conservative orthodoxy on the Second Amendment made him subhuman, not even deserving of the most basic courtesies.

A person like Clooney can only dream of rivaling Charlton Heston’s life accomplishments. Let’s leave aside the leading roles in some of the greatest movies ever made, the acting laurels and the celebrity, and look at the man:

Married to his college sweetheart, Lydia, for 64 years.
Beloved father of two successful children, one a Hollywood director.
Unabashed Christian and church attender.
First among his peers; President of the Screen Actors Guild a record six terms.
Served his country in World War II as a B-25 crewman.
Campaigner for civil rights; protested as early as 1961, long before it became popular, and marched on Washington alongside Dr. Martin Luther King.
Protector of the unborn; provided the introduction for Dr. Bernard Nathanson’s great pro-life film, Silent Scream.
Champion of public decency; shamed Time Warner into dropping rapper Ice-T’s contract because of his song celebrating the murder of police officers.
Defender of individual liberty; President of the National Rifle Association.
Ask Heston which of his accomplishments he treasured most, and he’d probably point to this tribute from his family: “Charlton Heston was seen by the world as larger than life…. We knew him as an adoring husband, a kind and devoted father, and a gentle grandfather with an infectious sense of humor. He served these far greater roles with tremendous faith, courage and dignity.”

Sadly, many in the liberal news media wear ideological blinders that render them incapable of appreciating the entirety of Charlton Heston. Some journalists can only see Heston waving a musket in the air at the 2000 NRA convention and growling, “Out of my cold, dead hands.” They regard Heston’s pro-gun stance as beyond the pale, as if it were morally reprehensible to stand up for our Constitutional right to keep and bear arms. (Click here for a study of media anti-gun bias.) Heston’s death this past Saturday has allowed them to express hostility similar in kind, if not in tone or degree, to Clooney.

ABC’s Barbara Walters: “He is very controversial or was because of his support of NRA.”
ABC’s Dan Harris: “As President of the National Rifle Association, he became one of the most polarizing figures in American politics.”
CBS’s Russ Mitchell: “Once the quintessential big screen hero, in his later years he drew as much attention for his controversial politics.”
AP’s David Germain: a “fierce gun-rights advocate.”
Not “principled” or “passionate,” but “fierce.” Charlton Heston was “polarizing” and “controversial” because he refused to toe the line of political correctness.

I met Heston once, in an elevator on the way to a gathering of Hollywood conservatives. No, the meeting wasn’t held in the elevator. Instead of asking how he parted the Red Sea, I brought up a Second Amendment essay he’d recently written. Engaging his mind, rather than his celebrity, delighted him. He was affable, unpretentious and witty, and he clearly had the courage of his convictions.

After forcing Time Warner to cut its ties with Ice-T over the Cop Killer album, Heston quipped, “Still, I’m proud of what I did, though now I’ll surely never be offered another film by Warner, or get a good review from Time. On the other hand, I doubt I’ll get a traffic ticket very soon.” Now there’s a man Kipling would be proud of.

This weekend you won’t catch me dead at that Clooney movie. I think I’ll head for the rifle range instead, then crank up the home theater and enjoy my brand new DVD of Ben Hur.

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TexasRifleman
April 11, 2008, 11:36 PM
The fact that they all hated him so much is a testament to his effectiveness.

I am enjoying watching them make fools of themselves, and I'm sure Mr Heston is enjoying the same as he's at the shooting range with Jeff Cooper and John Moses Browning.

Maybe David Crockett too since Mr Heston favored the muzzleloaders so much :)

hankdatank1362
April 11, 2008, 11:42 PM
God bless that man.


A truly great generation is almost extinct, and we have nothing to replace it but a fresh crop of paris hiltons or gangster wannabes.

No solution in sight. Sad, really.

Eightball
April 12, 2008, 01:47 AM
The fact that they all hated him so much is a testament to his effectiveness. Yep.

230RN
April 12, 2008, 01:49 AM
Twits.

JCMAG
April 12, 2008, 02:03 AM
Hey now, not everyone in the new generation is lost :D

One of the things that I've noticed about the "liberal media" and "liberals" that I know is that their politics are more important than their respect for human life.

But let it be said that, historically and presently, those with radical political ambitions on both sides of the spectrum are guilty of dehumanization.

So be it. They will, somewhere sometime, get what they've asked for -- a government of their own designs that has neither respect for their liberty nor their humanity.

Let us continue a great president's mission by making sure that that does not happen, deserve it as the radicals may...

misANTHrope
April 12, 2008, 08:09 AM
ABC’s Barbara Walters: “He is very controversial or was because of his support of NRA.”
ABC’s Dan Harris: “As President of the National Rifle Association, he became one of the most polarizing figures in American politics.”
CBS’s Russ Mitchell: “Once the quintessential big screen hero, in his later years he drew as much attention for his controversial politics.”
AP’s David Germain: a “fierce gun-rights advocate.”

Am I the only person who doesn't see these comments as particularly negative? Honestly, they all sound pretty accurate to me...

JFrame
April 12, 2008, 11:00 AM
misANTHrope,

Accuracy might be one thing, but balance is another. Without knowing everything else they said (if anything), I can't know the total context... But the sense is that many in the liberal media chose to report on Mr. Heston's demise with language of a particular tilt and connotation.

Don't forget that the BBC has taken words like "terrorist" and "Moslem" out of the lexicon of allowable language by their reporters.

Sometimes you can convey as much by what you DON'T say, as what you DO say...

-- JFrame

bikerdoc
April 12, 2008, 11:03 AM
perhaps ted nugent or tom sellick is the future?

sixgunner455
April 12, 2008, 11:40 AM
misANTHrope,

The thing is, those statements from those bully pulpits were supposed to sum up the man's life -- epitaphs. And I'm sorry to all of my brethren of the gun rights movement, but to focus solely on how "controversial" his involvement with and commitment to the 2nd amendment was is demeaning to all of the other things he did. Heston was a great American, war veteran, hero. A man. He was a pioneer of civil rights and human decency, not just the 2nd amendment, but all of them, and spoke out for them whenever and wherever he saw the need, regardless of personal cost.

A few years ago, there were a lot of people with bumper stickers that said, "My president is Charlton Heston/Moses/Ben Hur."

He should have been.

svtruth
April 12, 2008, 11:47 AM
on Glenn Beck from Wayne Lapierre:
Heston attended a studionannual meeting as a stockholder to protest their production of a rap song advocating killing police officers. After the meeting he said "I'll probably never get another role from the studio, but I'll bet I never get another speeding ticket."
Some time later he was pulled over, the officer just told him to slow down and thanked him for his support.

armoredman
April 12, 2008, 11:49 AM
Charlton Heston as the President of the United States would have scared Osama into surrendering to the french!
No George Clooney movies in this house, either.
BTW, here is but one peice of that "song", the only one with no profanity.
I got my twelve gauge sawed off.
I got my headlights turned off.
I'm 'bout to bust some shots off.
I'm 'bout to dust some cops off.

Thank you, Mr Heston, may you rest in peace in Heaven, and wouldja mind sending down someone like you to take over?

Just Jim
April 12, 2008, 12:27 PM
I doubt Clooney could ever measure up to Heston, and Clooney knows it.

jj

retgarr
April 12, 2008, 12:36 PM
Didn't George Clooney make that arrogant speech about how great Hollywood was? Saying that Hollywood got involved in civil rights before it was popular. Did he have any clue that it was in part Charlton Heston that he was speaking about?

elrod
April 12, 2008, 12:56 PM
I doubt Clooney could ever measure up to Heston, and Clooney knows it.


In my mind, there is absolutely no shred of doubt that he could ever even dream of it, let alone do it! :fire:

Deanimator
April 12, 2008, 01:06 PM
One should be proud to be hated by imbeciles.

mekender
April 12, 2008, 01:14 PM
Hollywood is totally tolerant so long as you agree with their views... look at what happened to Jerry Doyle... you know, the guy that played Gerabaldi on Babylon 5... he stunned his friends when he announced that he was running for the US House as a republican... within a few months, he was persona non grata in the acting world and almost immediately lost all of his friends

boggyboy72
April 12, 2008, 01:34 PM
I had no idea Jerry Doyle ran for the House.What happened with that?

Deanimator
April 12, 2008, 01:38 PM
within a few months, he was persona non grata in the acting world and almost immediately lost all of his friends
Maybe they weren't really friends.

If a bunch of leeches fall off of you, what have you REALLY lost?

antsi
April 12, 2008, 01:52 PM
-------quote------
Am I the only person who doesn't see these comments as particularly negative? Honestly, they all sound pretty accurate to me...
-------------------

In obituary-speak, those statements are as close to cursing the man as you can get.

If Heston had campagined for gun control, they would be clamoring about how he was a "courageous champion of public safety and non violence." Never mind how little "courage" it takes to toe the left-socialist party line in Hollywood.

DoubleTapDrew
April 12, 2008, 02:11 PM
Being hated by those who represent everything you are against is the highest compliment one can receive. It means you were effective.

Acheron
April 12, 2008, 02:14 PM
I'm really getting sick of these threads...


If you don't like George Clooney, fine. If you don't like Hollywood liberals, fine. If you don't like the way they talk about a dead man, that's fine too. But there's no need to be dragging it out all the time and constantly lamenting about 'the liberals' as if they're one monolithic bloc. All it does is breed hatred and intolerance and is generally not very High Road. The High Road is a forum to discuss gun rights and other firearms related issues. If you want to actively and creatively help protect our rights, then this is the place.


But if you just want to bitch about how you don't like other people for any particular reason, take it somewhere else.


Mods-shut this down before it gets any worse.

Linda
April 12, 2008, 04:55 PM
Hmmm...,

I really enjoyed reading this thread, until I got to the last post.

The High Road is a forum to discuss gun rights and other firearms related issues.
If a thread about Charlton Heston and his detractors is not about gun rights, I sure as heck don't know what is then. That gentleman did more for our RKBA and the NRA than most anyone. I appreciate when someone will point out those Hollywood types who do not support what I believe in. Therefore, I can make the educated choice not to support them with my money at the box office or anywhere else. I'm sure Rosie O'Donnell was dancing on his grave as well!

I'm really getting sick of these threads...
Then why did you read it? Most other people would pass over threads that don't look of interest to them.

:banghead:

Soap
April 12, 2008, 06:20 PM
Gotta love an argument that someone needs to be "forgiven" for fighting for natural human rights.

Slotback
April 12, 2008, 06:25 PM
Clooney is an idiot.

I am really glad that my Dad got Charlton Heston's autograph for me when Mr. Heston visited my town. I just wish that I had been able to meet him.

Just Jim
April 12, 2008, 06:51 PM
But there's no need to be dragging it out all the time and constantly lamenting about 'the liberals' as if they're one monolithic bloc.

Mods-shut this down before it gets any worse.

The way gun grabing liberals think is on display here. Thanks for showing everyone what it leads to.

jj

SaxonPig
April 12, 2008, 06:53 PM
Isn't it funny that you can espouse any Leftist rhetoric, no matter how inflammatory, divisive or insulting, and no qualifying words are attached to the statement or the speaker. But say something that represents a Conservative viewpoint and you are labeled as "controversial" or some other slanted term.

mike101
April 12, 2008, 07:49 PM
"Mods-shut this down before it gets any worse."

That's some real Huffington Post thinking right there. Shame on you.

A hundred years from now, people will know who Charlton Heston was. I'll bet people will still be watching remasters of Ben Hur, and the Ten Commandments, and Planet of the Apes, and El Cid.

A hundred years from now, people will have no clue who Cloony was. "Cloony who?" Cloony is a fop who is not worthy to polish the boots of the likes of Charlton Heston.

cornman
April 12, 2008, 08:55 PM
Just because someone is in Hollywood does not make them The Liberal Media". There is no such thing as "The Liberal Media". It is ANOTHER conservitive strawman that does not exist. Ask Mr. Kristol.
"I admit it -- the liberal media were never that powerful, and the whole thing was often used as an excuse by conservatives for conservative failures."
William Kristol, as reported by the New Yorker, 5/22/95

JFrame
April 12, 2008, 09:17 PM
Wow -- one quote by a conservative makes it a slam-dunk, doesn't it, Cornman? :rolleyes:

Also, note the quote is from 1995. I would say the phenomenon of overwhelmingly obvious bias by the media (print, TV, movies) has been mostly in the last few years (corresponding to Bush being in office???).

Acheron
April 12, 2008, 09:22 PM
This thread is not about Charlton Heston and I have no issues with him. This thread was a vehicle for the OP to complain about certain people that he dislikes. That is NOT what the High Road is about.

We need to present a unified, educated, and mature image to the antis. Going around and calling people names and saying how dumb they are and generally behaving like a 4th grader is not appropriate for this website. If you're confused then I direct you to read the sticky that Oleg posted about what The High Road is supposed to be.

This forum is not just for conservatives and it's not a place to sit and bitch and moan about how other people don't like you and how they made fun of someone that you liked. Not everyone who frequents this site is a conservative. Some are liberals, some are moderates like me, and some really don't care about politics at all, they just want to shoot.

Go ahead and flame me. Call me a troll. Go ahead and say that I don't care about our rights. Call me a dirty liberal. Say I'm not patriotic. Say whatever you want.

acdodd
April 12, 2008, 09:29 PM
I'm really getting sick of these threads...

However you took the time to read it and request it be shut down just because you don't like it.
Not very High Road.
You are free to go elsewhere.

Liberals are one monolithic bloc that breads hatred and intolerance.


God bless Charlton Heston.
AC

Acheron
April 12, 2008, 09:39 PM
Liberals are one monolithic bloc that breads hatred and intolerance

Clearly you don't know many liberals. Half of the people that I know that shoot are liberals. I think you're confusing liberal with Democrat. Two very different things. Private firearm ownership is a liberal value. Liberalism is centered around the idea of liberating man from the yoke of oppressors. Real liberals love guns. There is a difference between liberal and conservative and Left and Right.


And no, I didn't request that this thread be shut down because I didn't like it. I requested it be shut down because it violates the rules of conduct that are expected of all of us. I take The High Road seriously. I hope others do as well.

Just Jim
April 12, 2008, 09:59 PM
Well then for rules maybe you should have allowed the moderator to make his own decision as to the threads status. Seems you want to control what the rules say.

jj

Rachen
April 12, 2008, 10:02 PM
George Clooney don't even deserve to kiss the boots of Charlton Heston.

I have always have been a supporter of Heston since I was very young, and always will be.

Just look up the word "freedom" in a dictionary. I wouldn't be surprised if Charlton Heston's picture is in it's place.

I hope these hatemongering Hollywood Dems and left wing fascists get AIDS.
Like Nobama, right? Gun shops, no, porn shops, yes? Right? Well, I hope they all get AIDS from their filthy perverted lifestyles, or at least drug dependancy for the rest of their filthy lives. Ah, look at Britney Spears. Another career bites the dust.

Sorry, I don't talk like that, but HOW DARE THESE FILTHY FASCISTS STAB A HERO AND COURAGEOUS PATRIOT IN THE BACK! HOW DARE THEY!:fire:

I got my twelve gauge sawed off.
I got my headlights turned off.
I'm 'bout to bust some shots off.
I'm 'bout to dust some cops off.


THAT IS ONE FILTHY AND PUTRID BIT OF A SO CALLED SONG:fire::fire::fire:

HERE, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A TRUE SONG!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra9MKY35xR4
AND I WOULD LIKE TO DEDICATE IT TO CHARLTON HESTON, BECAUSE IT IS ALSO A SONG ABOUT A HERO. HEROISM HAS NO NATIONAL BOUNDARIES.

Acheron
April 12, 2008, 10:55 PM
Look up at the previous post.



I rest my case.

Rachen
April 12, 2008, 11:03 PM
If I was leader of USA, anyone who insults true national heroes would be sentenced to hard labor.
George Clooney and all the libs that insulted Heston would have already been sent to reeducation camps in the desert where they will learn the value of labor and national solidarity.
There will be no more filthy productions in Hollywood and MTV.
All productions must adhere to revolutionary and patriotic ideals.
Subversive counterculture such as gangsta music will be suppressed.

That bit of rap song was the nastiest I ever heard.

acdodd
April 12, 2008, 11:16 PM
Thank God you will never be in charge.
Sounds like you want to be in charge of China not the USA.
AC

Justin
April 12, 2008, 11:33 PM
Sorry, folks, but this one's turned into a good old-fashioned flame war.

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