Went for an H&K.....got a Sig


April 15, 2008, 02:52 AM
I'm sure some will call me a fool. Others will say I'm a blasphemer. And the die-hard Glocksters will burn me in effigy, despite not knowing what I look like.

Simple fact is, I had finally ponied up enough dough to get one of these brand new super-duper HK45s. Niiiiice looking gun. Very nice. Got to hold the full-size and compact. Price? $959 for the full size, $967 for the compact. And that's before tax. Youch. While pondering whether I should spend AR price on a pistol, I happened to turn from the .45 pistols case to the .40 pistols case. And then to the 9mm pistols case. And then I saw it.....A Sig 226R with Crimson Trace Laser Grips. It had two high cap mags and was used...but not used much. Finish looked good. One minor scratch on the rear frame on the beavertail area. I thought, hmmmm, I'm not in the market for a 9mm, but I like the 226 series...gotta check it out. Now keep in mind, the pistols in this store are separated by caliber. So here I am in the 9mm case, checking this gun out. When it was handed to me, I popped the mag out to check the weapon and see if the mag was a hi-cap. It was...a 12 rounder. Eh? That ain't right....turned it over and sure enough...it was a .40/.357 mag. Then I looked at the barrel...sure enough, it says .40! And the price? $665, almost new in the box with Crimson Trace Laser Grips, NIGHT SIGHTS, and 2 12 round mags!

I don't have the HK. At least not yet. But I have one beautiful Sig.

Took it to the range. Fired 100 rounds of Sellier & Bellot ball ammo. Not my favorite, but the Magtech was sold out, as was the Remington. Also fired 50 rounds of some Remington ball that I already had. Then, I fired 50 rounds of Winchester Ranger 155 gr (NOT the Ranger Talon). Boy, you can tell when you're touching that stuff off. Lastly, I fired 24 rounds of the same brand in 180 gr. Not one hiccup, despite the fact that I hadn't lubed or cleaned the weapon prior to firing it (it wasn't very dirty at all, but I did conduct function checks prior to firing).

I still think the new HK is absolutely beautiful. I still love .45. But I don't know if I'll ever buy that HK now. That Sig is a work of art....

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April 15, 2008, 04:18 AM
congratulations, but i think if you shoot the hk45 you'll be impressed.
it's a VERY accurate pistol. one of my buddies actually got one at the last gun show i was at for only $820. it shoots better than MOST 1911's i've shot (don't flame me, i've only shot sub-$1000 1911s).
i would love a sig though to add to the collection. i was thinking of the 250

Ala Dan
April 15, 2008, 10:26 AM
You made the right decision, but both are great weapons~! ;)

April 15, 2008, 11:14 AM
Winchester Ranger is the same as the Black Talon, its just updated a renamed. It does the same thing in terms of its jacket mushrooming into a razor/claw type shape.

April 15, 2008, 11:22 AM
No winchester Ranger T is the same as the Black Talon. Regular Winchester Ranger is comparable to WWB hollowpoints or the silvertips.

April 15, 2008, 01:14 PM
Yep. It's not the same as Ranger T. Price and availability are the first hint. The second is when you do some digging/research and find out (starting with the sales code) that the design is not the same. Shot both and they're definitely not the same. One sheds it's jacket easier....guess which one.

April 15, 2008, 01:15 PM
Still....it's not a bad round to have if you're in need. I prefer Gold Dot myself....

April 15, 2008, 01:24 PM
I won't burn you in effigy, but congratulate you on picking the right caliber!:)

Thanks for sharing.

April 15, 2008, 01:37 PM
Quote: That Sig is a work of art....

Way to scan the canvas.. lol

40cals, in either P226 or P229 are sweet, soft-recoil, shooters.. And fyi, all ya need is a 357sig barrel and now ya have 2 guns in one.. Mags work for both 40cal and 357sig..

Have the CT grips on my P229 9mm, and they're worth every dollar, as it makes 2-eyed, point to aim, light'em up, shooting as good as it gets..

Enjoy, money saved, money invested..


April 15, 2008, 02:35 PM
While my heart always says 9mm for the P226, it's hard to say any SIG is a lemon.

I always wondered, do the .40 P226 and the .40 P229 share the same magazines? They list as the same capacity, so I just wondered...

April 15, 2008, 02:43 PM
P226 mags will fit in the P229, but not vice versa. P229 mags are too short to engage the mag catch in the P226 frame.

Congats on a nice find. Heckler & Koch pistols are nice, but my heart is with Sig Sauer. They are reliable, well built, and handle well. You will not be disappointed.

April 15, 2008, 02:44 PM
Now did you pick up the 229R or the 229R Elite? You mentioned the beavertail...

April 15, 2008, 02:45 PM
You're right guys, I forgot abut the *T designation.

I run the 127gr +p+ (RA9TA).

April 15, 2008, 05:56 PM
BTW what's the dif between the new H&K45 and the USP45?

April 15, 2008, 10:25 PM
I've got only one thing to say to you ....................... great choice !! ;)

The Ruckus
April 16, 2008, 01:43 AM
Pictures or it didn't happen :D

Kind of Blued
April 16, 2008, 02:47 AM
Now did you pick up the 229R or the 229R Elite? You mentioned the beavertail...

He said the "beavertail area".

My only handgun currently is a Sig 226 with Crimson Trace laser grips. It's bi-tone, and also in .40.

I bought it used as well, with two mags. :)

You made a great choice.

April 16, 2008, 07:07 AM
Thanks guys.

CountGlockula, I just had to throw that out there. I actually like Glocks and am an armorer of such.

Nope, it doesn't have an actual beavertail, just that curve to the upper backstrap. It's not an Elite model.

DougDubya, the Sig generally runs the best in 9mm (particularly the 226), but it does well in the other calibers. I expect the .40 version to be durable, even if a little less so. Hoping for no problems.

Speaking of which, has anyone had any issues with extended use of the 226 in .40?

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