Colt collection will auction Fri & Sat, Topeka Kansas

[JimSupica]

Our Kull & Supica Spring firearms auction is this Friday & Saturday, April 18 & 19, 2008, in Topeka KS.

The catalog is posted at www.ArmsBid.com w/ photos & full descriptions of all guns.

About half of the 1200 guns in this sale are handguns. Of special interest may be the following:

COLT COLLECTION - About 250 Colts, most New in Box to Excellent Plus condition. Pythons, Single Action Armies, 1911's, Diamondbacks, etc.

http://armsbid.com/9webpix/0-Ad-Colt.jpg

If you can not attend the auction in Topeka, KS, you can bid online:

Place absentee bids online here:
http://www.auctionflex.com/searchauctions.ap?co=33717

Bid live online during the auction through Proxibid:
Friday auction: http://www.proxibid.com/asp/Catalog.asp?aid=11417
Saturday auction: http://www.proxibid.com/asp/Catalog.asp?aid=11419

Sales are made only on the terms posted here: http://armsbid.com/TERMS.htm

Terms include a 10% buyers premium (proxibid charges an additional 3% premium if you use their live online bidding service). All firearms laws strictly complied with. All persons who are legally eligible to own firearms are welcome to bid. If you do not have an FFL, you will have to arrange transfer through a licensed dealer in your home state at your expense.

I appreciate the opportunity to post here. If anyone finds such a post inappropriate, please let me know & I will remove it if possible w/ my apologies, and refrain from posting similar gun auction notices in the future.

Thanks -- Jim Supica Jim@ArmchairGunShow.com 913-492-3000

[briansp82593]

Is this an actual auction where you can see the guns in person?
If so where is this located in Topeka?
Thanks, Brian.

[JimSupica]

This is an actual live auction. Preview is Thurs noon-8pm, Friday 9am-noon, & Saturday 8am-9am.

Preview & auction are at Kull Auction Pavilion, 201 SE 59th, Topeka KS.

This is just off Topeka Blvd next to the new Super 8 & by Forbes Field. Directions are at the www.ArmsBid.com website.

Thanks for the interest - Jim

[Brian Williams]

That Remington Rolling block in 38 rimfire looks like a neat gun, anyway I can get an approximation of the bore, lot #1592
The Win Low wall in 25 WCF is a nice piece also #587

[JimSupica]

Brian, lot 1592 has a dark rough bore w/ distinct rifling still visible. Thanks for the interest! - Jim

[Old Fuff]

Going to bump this one...:)

Everyone should check out this auction at www.armsbid.com

The Old Fuff can recommend this auction from personal experience. Plus they have an outstanding collection of S&W and Colt handguns as well as a lot of others - long guns included. If you can't find something you like you're not trying.

[JohnBT]

Nope, I looked once. Too tempting. Nope, nope, nope, not gonna look again.

How much you figure that cased Winchester Model 52 will go for?

Nope, nope, nope.

Where would I store it.

Nope, not gonna think about it.

John

[3rd Generation American]

I feel this is an inappropriate post (joke),as I live in the Republick of Kalifronia and we can't enjoy the freedom of purchaseing such fine guns that are not already in our state.
The ones that would attract my attention are not on the cadoj list so can not be imported here.
Oh by the way there are some very nice pieces there and I'm crying!!!

[Hawk]

The picture for lot 48 appears to have been cross-threaded with lot 49.
here (http://www.auctionflex.com/showlot.ap?co=33717&weventid=4777&weventitemid=1749529&wmaingroupid=0&wcatmastid=0&inventorytype=&minyear=2008&minmonth=4&minday=17&maxyear=2009&maxmonth=4&maxday=17&keyword=&lotsortorder=lotnumasc&pagenum=1&action=&lang=En)

Ok by me - I promised Fuff I wouldn't bid on Pythons.
Sure is a nice bunch of stuff there, though.

[Old Fuff]

Would the Old Fuff stand between you and a classic Python??? :eek:

NEVER!!!

After all opportunity only strikes... Well you know... :evil:

An a nice bunch of Singles Actions too... ;) So many to choose from... :cool:

[Hawk]

Actually, I'm impressed by anything that would make me reconsider a lifetime-long promise to never buy or bid on anything I wouldn't shoot. Nothing, I thought, would ever coax me to consider the purchase of something I'd only display.

Check lot 233.

In my own defense, it wouldn't be a safe queen, it'd be a display piece - it'd have its own room.



But Pythons?
Not yet. Maybe not ever.

[Old Fuff]

Check lot 233.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall when bidding starts. That's an outstanding pistol, with an outstanding display.

I do so enjoy window shopping, and hopefully one of my bids will come through. But I've lost far more then I've won. On-site bidders can always edge me by $5.00 or so, but I still enjoy the auctions. Jim tends to offer a lot of fine firearms that aren't likely to show up in my local stores, especially when it come to interesting collectables or classics. Ya' never know what you might find... ;)

[Hawk]

It would appear that I've saved some money (or at least not put myself at risk of spending some) by misunderstanding how it works.

Absentee bidding is the method of placing bids on auction items prior to the start of the auction. This allows buyers a method to bid on auction items when they are unable to attend the auction. Your bid will be used to place bids for items on your behalf even though you are not there.

Evidently, an auction shown as April 18 and 19 isn't two auctions in two days: it's one auction starting on April 18. Hence, all internet bidding is closed early April 18 even though product might be auctioned April 19.

Right?

Oh well, live and learn.
If nothing else, the CFO will be pleased.

[Old Fuff]

I have some good news and bad... :confused:

You are right. The auction has started, and bidding is restricted to those made on-site or over a telephone. So far as Internet bidding is concerned the cut-off was April 16th, although a few might have got in during the morning of the 17th.

So much for bad news... :(

But on the other hand, later this year more auctions will be coming - and you have plenty of time to get ready. Do be warned that Jim's auctions are adictive... :evil:

[Hawk]

Good news, bad news - more news: I belatedly discover the proxybid link. Fortunately my registration seems not to have taken.

I like your idea of just waiting for the next one.

[Phydeaux642]

So far as Internet bidding is concerned the cut-off was April 16th, although a few might have got in during the morning of the 17th.


I hope that's not correct. I was bidding up until 10:30 last night (the 17th) and the site said my bids were accepted. I doubt if I win anything, but I can hope.

[Old Fuff]

In theory the 16th was the cut-off. In practice they'll take bids as long as they can. Apparently they accepted your late bid, which is great! I hope you win. ;)

Inless of course we're bidding on the same lot. :evil:

If someone is interested in a lot that will be auctioned on Sat. April 19th I'd say send in a bid - you have nothing to lose. Be understanding though if it doesn't get placed.

And do be first in line for the next auction... :)

[Old Fuff]

I like your idea of just waiting for the next one.

You understand that this is conditional on you NOT bidding on anything I want... :D

In the meantime eyeball around on www.armchairgunshow.com just in case lightning strikes...

[Phydeaux642]

My problem is that I found too many items that I wanted to bid on and didn't bid as high as I would have liked to on any of them. I should rethink that and pick one item and try to win that next time.:D

[Old Fuff]

I always bid as high as I'm willing to go - and no more. If the bidding for the item should end at a lower price that's what I'll get the item for, plus one increment. On several occasions I have won something for less then my maximum bid, but on the other had I've lost when someone on-site raised my final bid by $5.00 or less. All this of course is part of the game.

While not much has been said, these auctions often include a lot of ordinary "user" shotguns and rifles, which the well heeled collectors ignore. There are some good buys there.

I also make a point of not getting too focused on guns alone, and look at books, accessories, collector ammunition and all kids of other things which are often overlooked by mainline collectors and Internet bidders.

Always remember that it is the perfect stuff that attracts the most money. Other items (particularly guns) with a few but fixable warts will go for much less and are still viable firearms for either collecting or shooting. I once got a supper deal on a revolver that was otherwise fine, but had a broken firing pin. The replacement cost me under $10.00 including shipping, and the repaired gun was worth at least $75.00 to $125.00 over what I paid, and is still going up. :cool:

[Hawk]

Bad news (possibly) for your wallet, Fuff.

The proxybid application appears to work (I didn't actually bid). I did have to use internet explorer.
You can start off at armsbid or the "Proxybid Friday" link in Jim's original post.
Register, allow Java 5 to download if needed.
"Enter live webcast" - you're assigned a paddle number - that's just too cool for words.
Go to town.

There's a "view" option that doesn't require registration.

Unless I'm missing something you can bid "live" no problemo.

Edited to show screenshot. Pretty cool, this intrawebz.

[Phydeaux642]

Well, here's what I've learned. If you want something in one of these auctions, bid $50.00 to $100.00 more than the top end of the estimate. At least that's the way it turned out for me.:banghead:

[Old Fuff]

Hawk:

I hate you!!! :cuss: HATE: :cuss: HATE: :cuss: :banghead:

After I read your post on how to bid using PROXYBID I tried to sign up... :)

So far so good... :)

Then I had to download some required software from JAVA... :uhoh:

Of course it didn't take after several hours of dial-up downloding... :banghead:

I HATE WINDOWS!!! :cuss:

I HATE JAVA!!!! :cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

I claw at the monitor with bare fingernails and it doesn't do a bit of good. :mad:

Gun after guns slips away. I lose one when an on-site bidder goes $5.00 over my bid... :cuss: Tis' the story of my life... :uhoh:

I will git you I will ... :cuss:

But my wallet is safe... :D :D :D :D :D

[Checkman]

Hey Jim joined THR. Welcome Jim. Whne is the 4th Edition coming out?

[Phydeaux642]

Has anyone won anything yet? Everyhting that I wanted went for more than the estimates. I would be interested in knowing what lots you have won if you were lucky. I found a nickel Colt Cobra with the box that has had only half of a box of ammo run through it at a local shop this weekend for $495, so, I will probably pick that up to make myself feel better about missing out at the auction.

[Hawk]

Not here.

The java app bombs on my home machine so Saturday was out.
Maybe next time.

[Old Fuff]

Phydeaux642:

These are not the best of times. I have been following the auction, but can’t bid because Poxibid requires a JAVA add-on, and my computer refuses to download it. :cuss: :banghead:

I lost one item that I might have won, had I been able to bid. An “on-site” bidder took it for an additional $5.00 over what I had bid. Given the opportunity I would have given him a run for his money…
:mad:

I would recommend that you jump on that Cobra. Nickel plated Cobra’s are far from common, and ordinary blued Detective Special’s (unboxed) are going for $425 - $450 and thereabouts.

I have missed several other opportunities I would have bid on if I could, among them a Colt Police Positive in very decent shape that went for $250. It also appears that some 2nd. And 3rd. Colt Single Action Army’s are going for slightly under market. Antique or classic (no lock) S&W’s are usually going for at or above the high pre-auction estimates, but not always. Some Pythons are going on the soft side, where I would say that Detective Special’s and Cobra’s are doing a bit better then I’d expected. All classic snubbies seem to be doing well, at or above estimates. The same can be said of antique Colt’s and Smith & Wesson’s.

I spotted several decent buys, but couldn’t do anything about it. As for my other bids I’ll have to wait until the fat lady sings… :(

[Phydeaux642]

Fuff and Hawk, sorry to here about your computer glitches that kept you from any deals. I missed out on two S&W model 34s. I bid on some other items but was really interested in these two. I had a feeling that I didn't bid quite enough while the internet bidding was open and I had to work yesterday, so, I couldn't even try the Proxy bidding.

I will probably put some money on the Cobra Monday if I don't just go ahead and pick it up (I bought a S&W model 13 this week, so, my fun money is drying up). The shop bought it from a guy Thursday and I was supprised it was still there Friday when I went by at lunch. I called them later that day and asked them to hold until I could get there Monday. Luckily, I do enough business there that they were happy to do that for me.

I picked up a Detective Special about 3 1/2 months ago for $320, so, I guess I got a pretty good deal on that one, too.

[Old Fuff]

I just logged off of the Armsbid Auction site (www.armsbid.com) They have posted the auction results, and you can read them without having to load any additional software.

It is clear that the older Smith & Wessons continue to increase in value, and some models are commanding prices that are higher the the current production street prices, although not up to MSRP.

It would appear the older Colt double-action revolvers are also going up, particularly Detective Special and other "D" frame models. Puthons and Single Action Army six-shooters have apparently leveled off. I was a bit surprised at the prices some vintage pocket pistols commanded, and by today's standards there were some good buys in the 1911 pistol department.

I didn't get into the considerable selection of long guns, but lever action Winchesters seem to be fetching high prices.

While some of the high prices on collectables will attract the most attention, there are still enough good buys to be found. I'll be back the next time around - hopefully with the software problems ironed out.