Auto weapons chambered in revolver cartridges


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Famaldehide Face
April 17, 2008, 09:25 PM
How many auto weapons have been chambered in revolver cartridges?, I like the thought of extending the use of these rounds:cool:

The only auto weapons i know is the S&W Model 52 and a variant of the Owen submachine gun.

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Eyesac
April 17, 2008, 09:32 PM
Ruger 99/44 Deerfield or something...

Desert Eagle...

bannockburn
April 17, 2008, 09:39 PM
Coonan Arms .357

Colt M1911 .38 AMU

rhubarb
April 17, 2008, 10:06 PM
There's the renowned Desert Eagle in .357 Mag and .44 Mag. Available with gold tiger stripes.

PTK
April 17, 2008, 10:14 PM
AMT makes a few models in rimmed chamberings if I recall correctly.

.cheese.
April 17, 2008, 10:16 PM
depends on what you define a revolver cartridge as. Does it have to be rimmed? There are a lot of .45 ACP revolvers.

Wheeler
April 17, 2008, 10:34 PM
The .45 ACP is not a revolver cartridge. It was designed for use in a semi-auto pistol. Now the correct statement would be "There are a lot of revolvers designed to use the .45 ACP" :D

The Lone Haranguer
April 17, 2008, 10:46 PM
Desert Eagle pistol in .357, .41 (rarely) and .44 Magnum

Coonan Arms .357 Magnum

Ruger has made two autoloading rifles in .44 Magnum, the old .44 Carbine and the newer "Deerstalker" (IIRC?) based on the Mini-14 action.

.357 Magnum was an available chambering for the LAR Grizzly pistol.

JesseL
April 17, 2008, 10:52 PM
There have been a few bullseye competition 1911s set up to fire flush seated .38 Special wadcutters, similar to the S&W 52.

And of course the first gun chambered for .22 rimfires was the S&W model 1, wasn't it? So you could say that the .22 cb/bb/short/long/long rifle familly are revolver rounds.

.cheese.
April 17, 2008, 11:13 PM
The .45 ACP is not a revolver cartridge. It was designed for use in a semi-auto pistol. Now the correct statement would be "There are a lot of revolvers designed to use the .45 ACP"

That's what I was saying. I was just basically trying to say that if the issue was that the OP wants compatibility between pistols and revolvers, .45 ACP will work either way.

bogie
April 17, 2008, 11:22 PM
A semi .38 special would be kewl.

Especially for a carbine.

doc2rn
April 17, 2008, 11:27 PM
Ruger SP101 in 9mm:neener:
^ .38 Special was already done don't remember the make but it was a 1911 platform. The grip was too big for me so it was a no-go.

Eric F
April 18, 2008, 09:37 AM
A semi .38 special would be kewl.

Especially for a carbine

I think there were a few m1 carbine rifles set up for this but it was a 38 special necked down to a 7mm or maybe a /25 cal. I need to look up the round again to be sure it was a winchester round though.

mainmech48
April 18, 2008, 11:32 AM
There were a few carbines made and sold commercially chambered for the 5.7 Johnson/Spitfire back when. It was basically a .30 carbine round necked down to .22. Can't recall whether there was ever much factory ammo produced for it.

I've never heard of an M1 carbine being chambered for a rimmed revolver cartridge or varient thereof and offered for commercial sales.

Eric: The round you're probably thinking of was the .256 Winchester, a .357 Mag case necked to 6.5 mm. Again, I've never heard of an M1 being offered in it, though there were a few revolvers and manually operated rifles/carbines made for it.

Eric F
April 18, 2008, 02:47 PM
Eric: The round you're probably thinking of was the .256 Winchester, a .357 Mag case necked to 6.5 mm. Again, I've never heard of an M1 being offered in it, though there were a few revolvers and manually operated rifles/carbines made for it.


Ah thats it. You are correct it was just lever actions.

But Ruger did make a 44 mag based on the 10/22

41magsnub
April 18, 2008, 03:07 PM
But Ruger did make a 44 mag based on the 10/22

You sure? That would be just plain awesome but I've never heard of it. Are you maybe referring to the camp rifles line?

jackstinson
April 18, 2008, 03:19 PM
But Ruger did make a 44 mag based on the 10/22
Actually....the 10/22 Carbine is based on their .44 Magnum Carbine.
Ruger's first rifle was the .44 Magnum Deerstalker Carbine produced from 1961 through 1985.
The 10/22 came out in 1964 to offer shooters the same basic feel gun in .22 caliber.
Ruger later produced the Deerfield .44 Magnum Carbine from 2000 through 2006.
Jack

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/firearms/PS-SerialNumberHistory-RI.html#

Jim K
April 18, 2008, 03:22 PM
The early patents show that almost all the pistol designers tried using standard revolver cartridges, including Browning. The problem was that they needed the rim for case support, yet the rim made feeding from a magazine unreliable. Browning first took the approach of trying to make the rim as small as possible, giving us the "semi-rimmed" .32 ACP, 9mm Brownng Long, .25 ACP, and .38 ACP. Then in 1904, he found out about the 9mm Luger, a case supported on its mouth, and the light went on. His next two cartridges were the rimless .380 ACP and .45 ACP.

The 9mm Luger, in fact, came about by accident. Its origin was the 7.65 Borchardt, shortened to function in the Luger. It was supported on the case shoulder. But the German army wanted a 9mm, which meant trying to expand the case until there was almost no shoulder, not enough for support. So Luger hit on using the case mouth and that was the answer.

Jim

35Rem
April 18, 2008, 03:42 PM
the .256 Winchester, a .357 Mag case necked to 6.5 mm

Just a clarification, the .256 Win Mag is a "quarter bore". It takes .257 caliber bullets, not .264 (6.5mm)

bogie
April 18, 2008, 03:46 PM
How about a mechanical feeding mechanism, like Gatling used? IIRC, the .45-70 was a rimmed cartridge. A .38 special (or .357, for that matter) minigun would be kewl...

Ultima-Ratio
April 18, 2008, 03:47 PM
Colt NM/Gold Cup Mid Range 38 Special full wadcutters

LAR Grizzly .44 Maggie & .357 Maggie

Do those french semi-auto revolvers count?

Coonan in .357 and a few rare .41 Maggies

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