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Revolver Ocelot
April 18, 2008, 12:42 AM
after seeing a certain someones post on here I'm on the market for a ruger mark III and a suppressor for it, but I was wondering which brand or model of silencer has the best db reduction as I figure if I'm going to put 100s of dollars into it might as well do it right.

it can be integral or one that just screws on to the barrel (in which case a pac-lite receiver on it) either way it doesn't matter.

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gpr
April 18, 2008, 04:59 AM
i would want one that i could take apart and clean...gpr

shc1
April 18, 2008, 08:08 AM
Side note.
In my neck of the woods once you own a suppressor (i.e.) $200 tax stamp included if you take it apart, say for cleaning you need a separate stamp for each part.
That is each piece (by law) becomes a suppressor. In some cases the tools used to work on them become individual suppressors and need stamps as well.
Of course these laws are to protect us…

Mike OTDP
April 18, 2008, 09:35 AM
Where ARE you?

Seriously, once you ahve your suppressor papered, it is no legal fuss to disassemble for cleaning. Now, if you were MAKING suppressor parts, particularly for resale, you could get yourself in trouble.

See the subguns.com boards for more in-depth information.

Revolver Ocelot
April 19, 2008, 01:54 AM
can anyone help me?

Funderb
April 19, 2008, 01:55 AM
you probably won't have to clean a .22lr suppressor.
Type it in on google.

Revolver Ocelot
April 19, 2008, 01:57 AM
I'm just trying to find the silencer with the greatest sound reduction for a ruger mark 3

Funderb
April 19, 2008, 02:25 AM
personally, I've never shot silencers on a .22. If I said that I have I'd be itching for a prison sentence. But I can tell you, a silencer/suppressor with a volume of 300mL will almost eliminate any noise the round has to offer. Except that it is semi-automatic, which will always make it a littl louder than one would hope.

With the mark 3 the only option that seems I can find at this hour is the pistols with integral silencer, as in, not screw on, just a silenced gun.

LawofThirds
April 19, 2008, 02:31 AM
Why would you be itching for a prison sentence? Silencers are covered under the NFA and require a $200 dollar tax.

http://www.advanced-armament.com/rimfire_silencers.asp has several non integral silencers for a .22. A quick google search showed several other sites.

Funderb
April 19, 2008, 02:34 AM
I don't have a nifty tax stamp. thus, the admittance, however false, that I ever had one would be a good way to condemn myself should the ATF ever want to hurt me where it counts.


but do those silencers adapt to the awkward requirements of the ruger mk3?

LawofThirds
April 19, 2008, 03:00 AM
Ahhh ok. That I don't know as I do not have personal experience with a MK III being suppressed.

wdlsguy
April 19, 2008, 12:24 PM
I was wondering which brand or model of silencer has the best db reduction
You might want to ask your question here (http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/) and here (http://ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=6&f=20) also.

Atla
April 19, 2008, 12:29 PM
Paladin makes some Rugar Mark II's with an internal silencer. Very nice stuff.

I got to handle a couple of them at a gun store near Wideners in TN, they had two Ruger Mark IIs with a silencer, a stainless and a blued. I think they wanted $1000 for the stainless and $900 for the blued.

Revolver Ocelot
April 19, 2008, 02:26 PM
you can screw any 22 can onto a pac-lite receiver, I've been looking at various options from gemtech, liberty, aac etc. but of course they all claim to be the best, so many choices :P


You might want to ask your question here and here also

thank you I'll give that a shot :D

Ghost Tracker
April 19, 2008, 02:37 PM
Rather than an integrated (internal) suppressor for your Ruger Mk III, wouldn't you rather have a screw-on model that you can use on ANY of your (correctly modified) .22 firearms? The NFA ($200) stamp is for the suppressor. It can then be legally mounted to any variety of applications (just a thought).

kingpin008
April 19, 2008, 07:36 PM
+1. When I get my *suppressor* (just a pet peeve - the proper term is "suppressor" rather than "silencer" - nothing can completely "silence" a gunshot), I'll be getting a non-integral unit.

For one, they're easier to clean than integral units, which in some cases aren't user serviceable at all. At least with most stand-alone cans, you can do the maintenance yourself. With an integral can, if it gets filthy or damaged, your whole setup has to go back to the manufacturer.

For two, just like Ghost Tracker said - why limit yourself to one integrally suppressed firearm, when you can have a stand-alone unit that's compatible with a number of different guns? Variety is the spice of life, after all.

WoofersInc
April 19, 2008, 08:05 PM
Most of todays suppressors are very close to each other in noise reduction. You are talking about 2-3 decibles difference on most of them. If possible try a few different brands as some will sound different even though they have the same decible rating. It has to do with the way the sound pulses go through the baffles. I personally have the Gemtech Outback II and find that it is a good all around can. It is a sealed screw on suppressor. There are many more good companies making suppressors. Try http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/index.php?sid=b1416629d449dc77e4525d03cb503787
They will be able to give you all the info you need.

Revolver Ocelot
April 20, 2008, 12:25 AM
well this will be the first 22 I'll ever have owned (haven't bought it yet because I found places that will sell them with integral silencers for less then buying them separate should i take that route)

I was concerned more with decibel reduction but if its not that big of a difference I would prefer the pac-lite receiver and add a can preferably something that meets flush with the reciever then as i'll probably just carry it in an open ended holster when i go to the range.

Zak Smith
April 20, 2008, 12:50 AM
22 suppressors are fun. Here's a 5" can on a MKIII
http://demigodllc.com/photo/TBAC-22/smaller/D462_5075_img.jpg (http://demigodllc.com/photo/TBAC-22/?small=D462_5075_img.jpg)
............... Larger version of above photo. (http://demigodllc.com/photo/TBAC-22/?small=D462_5075_img.jpg)

Revolver Ocelot
April 20, 2008, 12:59 AM
do you own the demigod website? if so awesome because I've been trying to e-mail you for days to find out what kind of can that is but my internet has been dying.

Zak Smith
April 20, 2008, 01:01 AM
It's mine-- see signature link below.

However, there are a lot of good .22LR suppressors. It's really hard to go wrong, and most of them suppress about the same. With subsonic ammunition, they are very quiet.

Revolver Ocelot
April 20, 2008, 01:07 AM
well guys it looks like I may have found what i'm looking for, thanks for all your help :)

Mtdew
April 20, 2008, 04:52 AM
Go over to silencerresearch.com http://www.silencerresearch.com/2007_22lr_silencer_shootout.htm

John Db tested 19 [22rf] cans on a p22 and a tula bolt rifle. The results are up for all to see.

possum
April 20, 2008, 04:59 AM
check out the amphibian that would be my choice for a .22 with can, the can is intregal.

USMCDK
April 20, 2008, 05:33 AM
If I may add in my own .02 I will suggest Knights Armorment, they make some really nice suppressors, not so solid form looking, they are welded, but I have seen them in action and they work well.

Mike OTDP
April 20, 2008, 02:36 PM
OK. You've got several options.

If you want an integral unit for a Ruger, get an AWC Amphibian. If you want a sealed muzzle can, the SWR Warlock is impressive. For a take-down muzzle can, the AAC Prodigy is getting good reports. For a wet micro-suppressor, I like the AWC Titan Three.

Zak Smith
April 20, 2008, 08:02 PM
If I may add in my own .02 I will suggest Knights Armorment, they make some really nice suppressors, not so solid form looking, they are welded, but I have seen them in action and they work well.
Does Knights make a .22LR suppressor?

Mtdew
April 20, 2008, 10:04 PM
For a take-down muzzle can, the AAC Prodigy is getting good reports

on a rifle it's Db numbers are good, however on a pistol they are terrible.

The SWR Spectre does MUCH better on a pistol.

Does Knights make a .22LR suppressor?

I don't belive so.

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