Most Accurate 30-06 Under $1000.00


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Master of Arms
April 17, 2008, 11:44 PM
I`m about to be on the hunt for a 30-06 to both hunt and shoot at paper with. I would like an opinion on exactly what I`m looking for and where to find it. I ask this question here on THR because this is the place to ask such a question so any opinion is welcomed.:)

Also,whats the most accurate production bullet that you`ve ever shot.:)

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Dksimon
April 17, 2008, 11:46 PM
Great idea for a thread. I will be watching closely to see the suggestions. Looking to upgrade from a 25-06

R.W.Dale
April 17, 2008, 11:51 PM
Keep an eye out for a used Winchester

I've owned a bunch of 30-06'es Everything from Savages to Encores but by far the most accurate of all is a used Winchester model 70 Ranger that I paid $270 for. For an ugly rifle this thing shoots like a house on fire, for this gun a "BAD" 5 shot 100yd group still won't be larger than 1.5"

If accuracy is your main concern you don't want to get too tied up in the rifle alone. In this day and age it's actually pretty much impossible to buy a crappy bolt action rifle. You might very well buy a $370 bargain bin rem 700 that will outshoot a $1200 Steyr

Your choice of optics will be almost as important. The most accurate rifle in the world won't shoot worth crap with a junky scope. If $1000 is your budget you need to be looking for a $600 rifle and spend the rest on optics and mounts.

rangerruck
April 17, 2008, 11:54 PM
Wow!!! thousand bucks is a bunch of money; to be honest, most any brand that is out there will be pretty accurate nowadays. So I am going to make some assumptions; You want an avg length bbl, sporter contour, with decent stock, wood or synthetic. Then the answer is simple, a cz first, and foremost, with a set trigger, then a Savage classic in wood stock, such as a 114 model.
next would be varmint or heavy contour bbls, with synth stocks, that have some type of pillaring or bedding to them, and now the choices will be wild and hairy. Let me also add, a nice Weatherby, in a beaut of a wood stock, or a remmy in bdl , or cdl model, will also be quite nice, and all of these will be classice wood, american design.

skinewmexico
April 17, 2008, 11:56 PM
Under $1000? I'd buy a Stevens 200 for $300, put a Shilen Supermatch barrel on it for $350, a SSS trigger for $100, and a B&C Duramaxx stock for $100. Then I'd sell off the original stock, trigger and barrel for $150, and buy a Farrell base and Burris Signature zee rings. But that's just me.

rangerruck
April 17, 2008, 11:56 PM
Also , do not dismiss a nice Howa if you find one, or a browning, in a fabulous A-bolt or T- bolt design. you could get all of these, with some nice glass, rings , mounts, and several boxes of diff type ammo, to see which ammo it likes best,sling, carry bag, and cleaning equipment, and you could do the whole thing for 1000 bucks.

rangerruck
April 17, 2008, 11:59 PM
for bullets, a nice federal matchking, or a winchester silvertip, though both expensive, are good accurate bullets. But surprisingly, I have had very good results with remmy and winny baseline bullets, at about 16 bucks a box. good for paper, and for hunting as well, as the bullets mushroom nicely, and hold together pretty good.

glockman19
April 18, 2008, 12:06 AM
Remington 700 CDL should run around $700 leaving money for glass or ammo.

ScottG1911
April 18, 2008, 03:20 AM
Savage 111 30-06, $350 give or take. Will be one of the most accurate out of box factory rifle you can buy. But unlike most other rifles, it is pillar bedded, free float barrel, and Accu-trigger

jmr40
April 18, 2008, 07:31 AM
Buy a Tikka, mount scope in the supplied rings and go shoot. If you like to play around with a rifle and change a bunch of stuff to get it to shoot this is not the rifle for you. There is nothing else to do. Mine is very boring. It shoots cheap factory ammo into 1" groups and good ammo into 1/2" groups consistently. Price is $500-$600 depending on blue/stainless. As a bonus they are very light. Mine weighs 7lbs. 1 oz. scoped.

gcrookston
April 18, 2008, 08:08 AM
+1 for Savage

USSR
April 18, 2008, 08:16 AM
MoA,

Unlike in years past, there aren't alot of production match quality .30-06's available. Savage used to make one, but I'm not sure if it's still in production. I had a custom built '06 made for me 8 years ago, and am extremely pleased with it. IMHO, the most accurate, commonly available production bullet is the 190 grain Sierra MatchKing. I use this bullet exclusively in my LR .30-06.

Don

http://ussr.clarityconnect.com/Win06t1.jpg

plexreticle
April 18, 2008, 08:27 AM
Well your on the right track with 30-06.

Jim Watson
April 18, 2008, 08:38 AM
Any of the above will shoot well, but I think you will either get tired of humping a target rifle in the woods or get tired of getting kicked at the range by a hunting rifle. You really need to save up and get two rifles. And even if the same caliber, don't expect to be able to swap ammo or even brass around promiscuously.

The most accurate .30 bullet I have found is the Lapua Scenar. (Shot in .308 rather than .30-06, but that should not matter much.) But I am going to try some Bergers; they and the JLKs are very good in my long .223.

skinewmexico
April 18, 2008, 09:35 AM
What weight JLKs? (shameless thread redirection)

jimmyraythomason
April 18, 2008, 09:53 AM
I would include a Kimber 84M in this list as long as you already have a scope to go on it,otherwise you will go over budget.

Franco2shoot
April 18, 2008, 10:14 AM
My personal favorite is Model 7 Remington in .308 it is a tack driver. Its light and easy to hunt with and matched with a 165 grain bullet I can take the orange dot outta a shoot-n-see @ 100 yards. The recoil is heavy when shooting 308 so moving to 30-06 might be a bit uncomfrotable.
KKKKFL

oldgold
April 18, 2008, 10:48 AM
I bought a Savage 110 for $250. A little work on the trigger and a Tasco world class scope and my handloads with Sierra 2110 bullets will give five shot 3/8" groups. I have never shot a factory round out of it since my shoulder is a mess.

Can't imagine paying $1000 for a rifle unless you are more into 'pretty'. 'Status' to me is very small groups.YMMD

goldy

Master of Arms
April 18, 2008, 11:42 AM
Great suggestions guys. The Kimber rifles are "out there" with their prices but they`re great rifles. I have a Savage in the 7mm mag and I`m not really happy with it out of the box. The recoil is extreme and the barrel gets HOT FAST. I`ve not seen any suggestions including Ruger which surprises me because my Ruger M77 300 mag is awsome. My Ruger has a thicker barrel than my Savage and is deadly accurate. I have video of shooting at the range at a 3 inch by 6 inch target at 400 yards and hitting it dead center on two back to back shots. USSR I really like that rifle in the pic and I`d like a little more info about it like where you had it done and exactly what parts you`ve used.
Can't imagine paying $1000 for a rifle unless you are more into 'pretty'. 'Status' to me is very small groups. I`m not into pretty but pretty isn`t the only thing that makes a rifle more expensive. Thickness of the barrel and the type and material used for internal and external parts have alot to do with the cost of a rifle.
Well your on the right track with 30-06.
Yeah, check my other threads and look at the poll I`ve started on one of them. There are lots of 30-06 owners out there. I chose the 30-06 as my next rifle because I shoot alot both rifle and pistol and the cost of ammo along with availability of different loads and reloadable surplus ammo.
Buy a Tikka
I hear ya!

KEEP`m coming guys!

skinewmexico
April 18, 2008, 12:05 PM
Well, barrel thickness is something you know up front, and choose to live with. You can re-barrel a Savage in 30 minutes in your own garage, so that's easy to fix.

cracked butt
April 18, 2008, 12:31 PM
I'd get a used win model 70 or Browning A-bolt- either of them with the Browning Boss brake. They are loud, have very little recoil, and are easy to tune to whatever load you are shooting. I've shot a few rifles with this system and have been very impressed with how easy it is to get factory ammunition to shoot moa or better. A friend of mine has the Model 70 with the brake- we did a range outing a few years ago to get it dialed in (he's not much of a shooter, more of a hunter than an avid shooter), once it was zeroed, 3 of us took turns shooting pennies taped to a target at 100 yards with a $1 ante per shot- you miss, you're out, I remember the ante getting up to around $8.

Other than that, I'd go with a Tikka T3.

jimmyraythomason
April 18, 2008, 01:02 PM
Kimbers certainly are high priced but retail for about $800.00 locally. Add the 10% sales tax and you still come in under budget (slightly). Still it doesn't leave enough for decent optics.

USSR
April 18, 2008, 01:55 PM
USSR I really like that rifle in the pic and I`d like a little more info about it like where you had it done and exactly what parts you`ve used.


MoA,

Well, it ain't particularly "pretty", but it does pretty well for it's intended purpose (LR target shooting).

Winchester LA pushfeed action
Krieger fluted 26" MTU barrel
McMillan A2 stock
Williams steel one-piece bottom metal
Jewell trigger
SpeedLock firing pin and spring
Badger 20MOA base and rings
Leupold 6.5-20x50LR M1 Mildot scope

Smithing done by Jack Krieger (action trued, pillar bedded, match chamber). The load used consists of a Sierra 190gr MatchKing propelled at 2900fps by 60.7gr of RL22. About 30MOA out to 1k.

Don

USSR
April 18, 2008, 02:53 PM
Thanks, although I must admit, my 6.5x55 F Class rifle gets more use due to a flatter trajectory and less recoil.

Don

skinewmexico
April 18, 2008, 03:15 PM
I have a feeling that didn't make the $1000 limit. I wanted a 6.5X55 for F-Class, but stumbled across a 6.5x47 Lapua Savage barrel cheap, and couldn't resist.

jpwilly
April 18, 2008, 03:32 PM
I haven't heard anything bad about the Savage or Stevens, Howa, Rem, Tikka, etc. Great rifles to each their own. Also Sniper Central offers a Howa entry level package in .308 scope stock and all for $975 if you don't mind a 308.

I have a Mossberg ATR in 30-06 that shoots MOA with standard Federal commercial ammo 150gr SP $12.97 a box at wally world. I haven't yet done any load development for it but the potential for more accuracy is definitely there!

Shawnee
April 18, 2008, 03:49 PM
Just curious - why a 30/06 when there are so many other cartridges available that will be more accurate with less trouble, less recoil, less blast and less expense ? "USSR's" suggestion of the 6.5x55 is just one of several calibers that are a much better choice.

I heartily agree with those posters who advise getting high-quality glass.

:cool:

Master of Arms
April 18, 2008, 04:42 PM
why a 30/06 when there are so many other cartridges available that will be more accurate with less trouble, less recoil, less blast and less expense
You said better? more accurate?? less expensive??? No offense but I believe that the 30-06 fits all of those categories to a T. I`m looking for a cost efficient, accurate, long range, high caliber rifle with multi-load capabilities in a surplus ammo category so .308 or 30-06 are my choices. I have other rifles. You should check out my other threads particularly the thread with the poll.;)

USSR
April 18, 2008, 08:46 PM
FWIW, my .30-06 Tactical Rifle is no less accurate than my 6.5x55 F Class rifle or my .308 Tactical Rifle. Rifle accuracy is a factor of the quality of the barrel and smithing, and the handload; not the headstamp that is on the cartridge case.

Don

Master of Arms
April 18, 2008, 09:41 PM
ussr, I would like a price range for your gun if you dont mind. you can send pm if you can.

USSR
April 19, 2008, 08:48 AM
MoA,

PM sent.

Don

gunmn74
April 19, 2008, 09:04 AM
I have done alot of looking on the same quest as you and I have
decided savage with the accutrigger is the way to go.

Roadkill
April 19, 2008, 09:28 AM
I picked up a 1950s Belgian Mauser, is only Mauser ever made originally in 30-06,
paid $300, added a Leupold 3x9, I've never had a gun shoot so accurate. I target shoot 150g berry's .30 bullets with 15g of Red Dot at 100 yds. It will actually put them in the same hole. I load 150g soft points using 45g of IMR 4895 for hunting. Groups at 100 yds are still MOA. In 40 years of shooting it's the most accurate rifle I've ever owned.

shootr
April 19, 2008, 10:36 AM
+2 on the Belgian Mausers. Picked up a 50s vintage FN 98 Deluxe in 30.06. A tack-driver, and with a variety of loads.

browningguy
April 19, 2008, 09:31 PM
A Savage with good glass is as accurate as anything under $1500. To be consistantly more accurate than the Savages you really need a semi-custom from Hill Country rifles, Remmy Custom Shop or similar type of rifle. Everything else people will list between $400 and $1k may occassionally be as accurate as a Savage, but currently I don't see any of them beating the Savage on a regular basis.

Master of Arms
April 19, 2008, 09:49 PM
Everything else people will list between $400 and $1k may occassionally be as accurate as a Savage, but currently I don't see any of them beating the Savage on a regular basis
Isn`t that amazing?! Savage is really doing well with their new barrel program. They`re getting the best of most all other brands. I read an article a while back where they bolted several brand rifles down and shot 3 shots per rifle and the Savage spanked`m. I`ll try to find that article because I believe that Sako, Tikki, and a few more of the super high end rifles were a few that got spanked by the Savage.

MOHunter
April 19, 2008, 10:32 PM
I like my Weatherby Vanguard. Good solid rifle & a fine shooter, Weatherby guarentees accuracy right out of the box. I have a .308, think they come in 30.06 as well.

hotlead
April 20, 2008, 12:07 AM
Great thread!!

I am also looking into a .30-06
I like the Vanguard sporter, 5+1, 24" barrel.
I am also looking at a Savage because I hear tons about the trigger and accuracy?
MY question is does the 24" barrel help that much that the Vanguard would be a better choice than the Savage?

jimmyraythomason
April 20, 2008, 09:12 AM
My Howa Lightning 1500 and my Savage Model 112VSS heavy barrel and custom stock (both 30.06) shoot better than I can. Both are MOA from a bipod or other rest.

BsChoy
April 20, 2008, 10:45 AM
I always getting as much for my money as possible so I would look around for a Remington adl or bdl (blind mag or floorplate) tikka, or weatherby vanguard. Throw on some lightwieght bases and rings of your choice and top with a burris, nikon, bushnell, or leupold vx-1 or 2 of your liking and you should be at your max if not under. The Vanguard would be the most economical IMHO.

Ammo...I would say I loved 150 SST's in my 30-06 with 50.0 of varget (work up to this). I have heard alot of good things about the accubond however.

equitytrader
April 20, 2008, 11:18 AM
For .308 Win. I'd go with this at $944 MSRP: http://czusa.com/data/productimg/main049.png
CZ 550 Varmint Kevlar .308 Winchester

For .30-06 I'd go with this at $712 MSRP: http://czusa.com/data/productimg/main018.png
CZ 550 American .30-06 Springfield

scrat
April 20, 2008, 12:42 PM
Savage or remington 700

Greenspartan117
April 20, 2008, 05:13 PM
I'm getting a Tikka T3, They are really great and accurate rifles. They have a 3 shot 1 moa guarantee :-) And it comes with a detachable mag system too :-)

XTerminator
April 20, 2008, 08:07 PM
I just bought a Tikka T3 Lite LH in 30-06. Cost $379.00
I mounted a new Bushnell Elite 4200 3-9x40 on it. Cost $235.00.
First 5 shots out of the barrel made a 0.75" group--Priceless :D

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
April 20, 2008, 09:23 PM
I'd imagine that a CDNN closeout on a Steyr would be in the running for a "most accurate under $1000". And yet, still no prettier than the CZ550s mentioned by equitytrader (and probably no more accurate). :)

Master of Arms
April 21, 2008, 09:43 AM
I'm getting a Tikka T3

Check the bolt slide action before you do.

Curator
April 21, 2008, 01:57 PM
Savage! My 112 with stainless steel barrel and composite stock can shoot sub one inch groups with almost any ammo. It is the most accurate out of the box rifle I have ever bought even at three times the price. Their "accu-trigger" is a bit weird at first, but once you get used to it you find yourself wishing your other rifles were so equipped.

Master of Arms
April 21, 2008, 04:23 PM
Curator, check out this thread: Savage 12BVSS vs. Remington 700 VLS in Win .243

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