Cheapo bullets


April 19, 2008, 04:53 PM

Any reason not to use these for loading up plinking ammo?

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April 19, 2008, 05:12 PM
None that I can see, might be buying some to reload cheap ammo for my mini-14.

April 19, 2008, 06:16 PM
Should do fine for blasting/plinking ammo.

April 19, 2008, 06:52 PM
I bought some of the M855's last year and was very happy with them.

April 19, 2008, 09:42 PM
I'd give them a call since the web site has not been updated since 2005.

April 19, 2008, 10:36 PM
I emailed them almost a year ago. I also emailed them 2 months ago. Never replied. :o

I'm not positive, but this might be the company that the owner died, and the misses took it over a few years ago.


April 19, 2008, 11:45 PM
if thats true well then someone is still paying the internet web fees

April 20, 2008, 12:00 AM
I read on another forum recently that the owner did not die, is doing well, and doesn't do e-mail much. The poster lived close and drove there after a few calls till they answered the phone. Call, call, call till you get them on the phone and you will be happy.

April 20, 2008, 12:32 AM
Cool. I stand corrected. :)

Unfortunately, I don't do business with those who avoid being contacted- except in person. I'd hate to have an issue with an order with that kind of "vendor".


April 20, 2008, 02:55 AM
Best of luck getting them on the phone- i tried for a couple days a few months back. Had a better chance of watching the Stanley cup live in hell.

April 20, 2008, 03:01 AM
"...inspected for headspace..." There's no such thing as that. Neither cartridges nor bullets have headspace. Headspace is a rifle manufacturing tolerance only.

April 20, 2008, 08:05 AM
I use them in my K31 rifle and they shoot pretty well at 200 yards.

April 20, 2008, 10:39 AM

what was your experience in dealing with them.Hard to get ahold of or ??

April 20, 2008, 11:26 AM
I called on the phone and left a message stating I wanted to place an order. Nikki called me back that afternoon. It took two months after that to receive the bullets.

April 20, 2008, 02:48 PM
Sass, Here is his number and e-mail address. "636-926-3076
It's been a while as I ordered 2,000 of them. [Let's face it the price is right.] But I believe I called, left my number, and then he called me back. I can tell you I was happy with the projectiles. Eventually I ended up with a load as good as the GP11 in my rifle. It took me quite a while though.

April 21, 2008, 12:00 AM
So when using pulled mil-surp bullets like these, what other measuring precautions should one use when loading? What tool if any should I use to check the bullets roundness and dimensions, or is a visual check of each one good enough?

Those prices are the best I've seen for M855 bullets, which shoot real well from my 16" RRA ... I'd like to load up while the gettin is good.

April 21, 2008, 05:40 AM
About all I did was grab a random handful, gave them a visual inspection, then checked the weight to be sure it was correct. Didn't find any problem with them. Of course you can't hunt with them, but they do make a pretty nice hole in a piece of paper. These were the first 5 that I shot to check them out. And while it was only at 50 yards I was happy enough, and I did improve the load just a bit afterward.

April 21, 2008, 11:40 AM
Buyer beware:

April 21, 2008, 12:13 PM
I emailed them and tried calling, but have never received a reply.

According to the site, trying to do business with RVO is a waste of time.

It's a shame as the products and prices look good.

April 21, 2008, 12:45 PM
Prices look good because they're three years old.

April 21, 2008, 01:41 PM
Ouch on that ar15 link!

However, just realized they're loacal to me ... if I can pick these up in person I'll get some. Otherwise looks like Wideners is the way to go.

April 21, 2008, 01:51 PM
Prices look good because they're three years old.

That and their service more than makes up for what you might* be saving. :D

*- assuming you get your order and don't mind waiting more than a month or two to get an order you paid for the first day.

TurboFC3S- Let us know what you see. Would be nice to hear of a positive experience on a vendor with such storied history. :D


April 21, 2008, 01:53 PM
I'm glad I ordered 2,000 of them when I did. Too bad because I had good luck with them.

April 21, 2008, 02:12 PM
I have never done business with them but from reading this thread and the one on I would definitely stay away from them unless you actually go to the shop and purchase something and take it with you that day.

April 23, 2008, 03:27 PM
Out as of now.

April 23, 2008, 05:03 PM
RVOW is a great company - I used to buy large projectiles (20mm, 40mm) until they stopped selling them.

April 25, 2008, 04:39 PM
Wideners has BRAND NEW SS109 bullets of the same mfgr as the .mil for $79/k when bought in 5k bulk.

Don't have to worry about roundness and distortions/sizing with these.


April 28, 2008, 12:27 AM
Here are a few pics of the crap I got from River Valley Ordnance.

Don't buy their stuff!!! :cuss:

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