Jareds jewelers in Hurst, TX now posted 30.06


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HighVelocity
April 21, 2008, 10:36 PM
I took my wife's wedding set in for it's annual inspection/check-up today and was pretty disgusted when I saw the entrance. A legal 30.06 sign. We've been using this store for 10 years, now we're going to go somewhere else. A friend of my wife works there and has always given us great service. I'll go ahead and send the whole no-guns = no money emails, but I doubt they'll reach anyone that cares.

Several hours later....

Suprisingly, I got a fairly quick response. Not surprisingly, it's the typical sheeple speak.

Dear Mr. Miller,

Thank you for the quick reply. I will make sure that everyone I know is aware that if they choose to come to your store, that their safety rests in the hands of a total stranger standing by the door sending text messages on his cell phone.

There are plenty of jewelers that do not infringe on my legal rights. One of them will be getting my future business.

Regards,
Gary Jones

-----Original Message-----
From: jaredcr@jewels.com [mailto:jaredcr@jewels.com]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 9:12 PM

Dear Mr. Gary Jones,

Thank you for contacting us at Jared the Galleria of Jewelry. As part of corporate policy, Jared reserves the right to prohibit the carrying of firearms/weapons or dangerous ordinance of any kind, concealed or otherwise, on company property. The security personnel provided in our Jared stores, as a prerequisite of employment with Jared, have gone through extensive training and background checks. Any attempt to bring firearms/weapons or dangerous ordinance will result in arrest by the appropriate authorities and possible prosecution.

This policy was adopted to help provide a safe environment for our customers and our employees.

Sincerely,

Michael Miller
Customer Relations

Your customer service representative is: Michael Miller
Summary: Customer Relations at Jared

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GeezerwithGuns
April 21, 2008, 10:43 PM
Simply put: Their choice and your choice.

I would, however, choose to shop elsewhere.

markmc753
April 21, 2008, 10:44 PM
In many ways, Jared's is a clueless chain store... Moving your business, regardless of their ccw policy is a wise move.

ozarkhillbilly
April 21, 2008, 10:45 PM
Sounds like they do not want your business or mine and maybe a lot of other peoples as well. I do not know about Texas but here in Missouri you can not be arrested for ignoring a posted store, just asked to leave is it. Now if you do not leave that is another matter.

Frog48
April 21, 2008, 10:50 PM
Even though its a stupid policy, I personally have no problem with a person or company wanting to exercise their right to be "king of their castle." After all, it is their private property, not yours or mine.

And on that note, I'd also choose to shop elsewhere, where my guns are welcome.

HighVelocity
April 22, 2008, 12:03 AM
Oh I definitely agree that they do have the right to post the sign. I'll excercise my right to shop elsewhere. But... I'm going to do my best to make others aware of Jared's "corporate policy".

Come on in, spend 20 grand on our rocks and then we'll watch out the window as you try to get to your car with it. :fire:

Winchester 73
April 22, 2008, 12:15 AM
Summary: Customer Relations at Jared

Perhaps they are connected with Jared of Subway ,who's from Houston.
No surprise then.:rolleyes:

Neo-Luddite
April 22, 2008, 12:17 AM
"dangerous ordinance"

Indeed, it seems to be if one must go into a 'trinket n' bauble' shop sans weapon.

"Ordnance" may have been proofed before being sent out, but theirs surely wasn't.

This is what spell-check does to people.

They are over-priced on watch repairs also, IMHO, the swine.

Winchester 73
April 22, 2008, 01:27 AM
the swine.

Can't beat that for succintness and clarity!
Boycott these Socialist swine!

tntwatt
April 22, 2008, 01:37 AM
Just so you know, Jared's is a subsidy of Kay jewelers.(per my friend who runs a Kays)

So Jared's in Texas has an armed guard?

mekender
April 22, 2008, 02:07 AM
Mr. Miller,

As a law abiding CHL owner I too have gone through extensive background checks and training, as well as training that i have instilled upon myself. Unlike your hired security guard, i have a vested interest in protecting my own life. Since your security guard probably makes somewhere in the area of about $12 per hour, I suspect that his first action upon being encountered with a dangerous situation would be to decide that his meager paycheck was not enough to get killed over your stores property or your customers safety.

Enjoy knowing that your company has successfully ostracized a significant portion of the law abiding community, people who most likely have enough money to spend it on jewelery. Also keep in mind that the presence of signs are usually not an effective deterrent to a criminal intent on committing murder or robbery. I should hope that one day the difference between feeling safe and actually being safe will become apparent to you and your company. Hopefully this will happen before one or more of your employees or customers falls victim to a murderous criminal.

Lawfully and respectfully yours,

Mekender

Winchester 73
April 22, 2008, 02:14 AM
Lawfully and respectfully yours,

Mekender

Excellent work.

Double Naught Spy
April 22, 2008, 07:26 AM
Boycott these Socialist swine!

Yeah, go ahead and boycott, but they are definitely capitalists, not socialists. Just because they don't like guns does not mean they are socialists.

With 289000 CHL holders, the potential seems significant. However they only comprise about 1.2% of the Texas population. Of the 289K, I wonder how many actually shop at Jareds?

Standing Wolf
April 22, 2008, 08:02 AM
I don't ever do business with anti-Second Amendment bigots.

motorep
April 22, 2008, 08:09 AM
Posted here in Colorado, too.

crazed_ss
April 22, 2008, 08:21 AM
Not even an issue in California.

HighVelocity
April 22, 2008, 09:13 AM
Good email Mekender.

So Jared's in Texas has an armed guard?

Well, that is THEIR description. I would describe it more as a person with a sidearm that they may or may not be able to deploy due to their lack of physical and or mental ability.

ZeSpectre
April 22, 2008, 09:17 AM
I've been boycotting Jared's since a go-round with my wifes engagement ring several years back. Whenever I do buy "rocks" for the wife (admittedly not often, neither one of us cares all that much for jewelry) I still send a copy of the receipt to Jared's HQ along with a "this could have been your sale" note.

They don't seem to really care but I enjoy giving them a poke in the eye when I can.

Vonderek
April 22, 2008, 09:56 AM
The security personnel provided in our Jared stores, as a prerequisite of employment with Jared, have gone through extensive training and background checks.
So does this mean that after you make your expensive jewelry purchase that Jared's highly trained security personnel are personally going to safely escort you back to your vehicle where you had to leave your firearm?

Nathanael_Greene
April 22, 2008, 10:04 AM
Frankly, I fail to see what the controversy is. They don't want your business...so don't give it to them.

When Jared's (or its parent) go into Chapter 11, you'll have your revenge.

In the meantime, if you want good deals on jewelry, go to the show at Dallas Market Hall on May 2nd, 3rd, and 4th.

SeanMTX
April 22, 2008, 10:10 AM
Nathanael,

Funny you mention Dallas Market Hall....I have a jeweler who works there and as I read this thread I recalled when I first saw the light and stopped shopping at high price retail shops.

HighVelocity...if you're interested in a much lower cost, higher quality resource for jewelery, feel free to shoot me a PM.

LeonCarr
April 22, 2008, 10:18 AM
The last time I was in a jewelry store (I can't think of the name of it, for those familiar with Fort Worth, Texas it is at the corner of Beach and Western Center, in the strip mall behind the Taco Cabana :)), the owner had a Springfield XD .40 with night sights.

I like that store.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

ATAShooter
April 22, 2008, 10:41 AM
After reading the original post and then watching "The First 48" on TV, I couldn't help but imagine a body lying in the middle of the store, full of holes and a Detective standing over it stating " He went to Jared". :D

Cowboybootnut
April 22, 2008, 11:57 AM
I need to stop at a Jarrods to see one of those "extensively trained" security guards.

There has been a lot of jewelry thefts in some of the stores in the DFW area for the last 6 months or so. I am surprised that they have an issue with a CHL holder.

Maybe I shouldn't be though.

John828
April 22, 2008, 12:08 PM
Dear Mr. Gary Jones,

Thank you for contacting us at Jared the Galleria of Jewelry. As part of corporate policy, Jared reserves the right to prohibit the carrying of firearms/weapons or dangerous ordinance of any kind, concealed or otherwise, on company property.

Yep, I say this is definitely a dangerous ordinance. All "Gun Free Zones" are dangerous ordinances. Too bad they won't prohibit their own ordinance.:rolleyes:

clarence222
April 22, 2008, 12:16 PM
We don't have a Jarrods here, doesn't matter though I shop locally whenever I can.

What really irks me is the amount of local gunstores that are now posted for no carry.

coloradokevin
April 22, 2008, 03:27 PM
Yeah, sorry to say that I have very little faith in the tactical effectiveness of the store's mall ninja.

My wife and I are not really interested in jewelry, but visited a Jared store before our wedding (shopping for rings) a while back.

I couldn't help but notice their obnoxious sign indicating that no guns were allowed under any circumstances. Plus, their tacti-cool security guard spent most of his time flirting with one of the young gals who worked there! Nevertheless, I was quite impressed by his fingerless leather gloves (don't know if he was going for the motorcycle gang or UFC fighter look?).

Anyway, I'm a police officer in the city where this store was located... My department explicity states that I shall always be armed (policy also adds that we are considered "always on-duty"). So, with that in mind, I continued to wear my weapon (obviously some folks follow this policy to varying degrees).

At some point the subject of me being an officer came up with the clerk at the store (I normally try not to mention it when I am off-duty, but the clerk sort of recognized me from working in the neighborhood, and asked). Anyway, the mall-ninja hones in on me for some reason, based on this information... At one point he actually asked me if I was armed! I just badged him and said "don't worry about it".

Then I took my business elsewhere. I'm not going to patronize a store that isn't willing to recognize my wife's (or YOUR) ability to exercise your CCW rights. Sure, I can carry in his store, and there is nothing he can do about it... But, still, I don't like the overall attitude that is implicit in his statement (and their policy).

And, I fully agree that this guy was hardly the one I would have wanted to have defending my life, or that of my loved ones! "highly trained" are two words I would not have used to describe him!

bogie
April 22, 2008, 03:50 PM
Has anyone stopped to think about what we could do to get their attention, possibly change their minds?

For one thing, I'd suggest that EVERY time a THR member needs a piece of jewelery, they need to go to Jared's first. Look, write down prices, and then when they leave, request that the security guard accompany them to their car, since they are carrying cash to pay for a prospective purchase. When they refuse to allow that, make a LOUD stink.

Then, to follow up, send copies of a receipt when you DO buy something to the store manager, the district manager, and the head corp folks.

DKSuddeth
April 22, 2008, 04:12 PM
I know this particular store, though I've never been in it. Looks like it won't be happening in my future.

W.E.G.
April 22, 2008, 04:22 PM
Jewelry?

Who can afford jewelry when ammo costs what it does?

Double Naught Spy
April 22, 2008, 04:41 PM
Has anyone stopped to think about what we could do to get their attention, possibly change their minds?

For one thing, I'd suggest that EVERY time a THR member needs a piece of jewelery, they need to go to Jared's first. Look, write down prices, and then when they leave, request that the security guard accompany them to their car, since they are carrying cash to pay for a prospective purchase. When they refuse to allow that, make a LOUD stink.

Then, to follow up, send copies of a receipt when you DO buy something to the store manager, the district manager, and the head corp folks.

That is just plain silly. If you didn't request help getting into the store with all your supposed cash, then why the hell are you requesting help leaving? What idiot CHL holder would have all that cash anyway when a check or credit card would be the smarter thing to carry?

I can see it now...

Dear Jared Mgmt,
I was dumb enough to carry a lot of cash into your store and then wanted the security guard to walk me to my car afterward because I felt unsafe with all that cash and he would not. I am mad at you for the stupid thing I did. So I bought elsewhere. Here are my receipts.

Sincerely,
Joe CHL holder

I am not sure how this is going to get them to change store policy on CHLs, however.

csmkersh
April 22, 2008, 04:59 PM
What idiot CHL holder would have all that cash anyway when a check or credit card would be the smarter thing to carry?
Me for one. I'd ask for a 2-3 percent discount for cash. If the answer was,"NO," I feed 'em plastic knowing they've got to give Visa 3-5 off the top of their sale.

Parabellum1982
May 31, 2008, 08:09 PM
Hi all im a guard at Jared, as of june 1st 2008 jared terminated its national contract with securitas, almost all the stores will have no guards at all. Im a army vet. 2 tours 1 iraq and 1 afghanistan, so please dont lump me in with the rest of the cop wannabe's and fatties.
Jared S.O.P was "Never draw your firearm, even if an advantageous
situation presents itself". i always thought that funny. As for the escort comments i have personally escorted people out who have made large purchases there was never a problem. For the "exstensive training" when i applied i was asked if i had my own gun, that was it. Just thought i would share.

Broadhead
May 31, 2008, 09:35 PM
IJ-70, I don't live in Texas, but I go there occasionally and I know it's a great state.

All shall-issue or may-issue states allow private property owners to post their stores.

Golden Hound
May 31, 2008, 09:49 PM
Surely I can't be the only one who finds it ridiculously ironic that this ordinance is called "30.06"

anthonydr2
May 31, 2008, 09:51 PM
I like the 30.06 signs....as long as they say "for sale" and "scope included"

Sistema1927
June 1, 2008, 06:16 PM
"He went to Jareds"

Nope, not anymore.

rbernie
June 1, 2008, 06:31 PM
I like WEG's thoughts best. Why are we wasting money on jewelry when there's ammo to be bought? :)

I gave their store manager in Plano my 'No CHL, no business' card. They didn't care. But at least I expressed my opinion, and I haven't been back since.

Guntalk
June 2, 2008, 03:43 PM
As always . . . shop elsewhere, and send a copy of the receipt for what you bought to the manager of the store with the "no guns" sign, with a note that you would prefer to do business with them, and you'll return as a customer when they take down the signs. It works.

100 or 100,000 such receipts (lost sales) has an impact.

Blockbuster Video took down the signs.

langenc
June 2, 2008, 06:41 PM
Zespecter has it right.

Send em the reciept and show them how good of a deal you recieved 'somewhere' else.

Mainsail
June 2, 2008, 07:06 PM
I found out last summer about their policy when I walked in carrying openly and was turned back at the door by the armed guard. Oh well, they lost my business then and in the future. I also choose to boycott Joeís Sports for having the same policy. Hey, if I can carry in Sportsmanís, Sports Authority, and Cabelaís, what do I need them for? Make sure you drop them an email every now and then to let them know how much you spent at their competitorís stores.

Oh, and the security guard at Jaredís is not going to escort you to your car to ensure that youíre safe during the most dangerous aspect of your visit either. They neglect to tell you that important information.

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