International travel with gun?


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cowssurf
April 24, 2008, 04:31 PM
Can I take a handgun on a cruise ship that will port in foreign countries? Is international travel with a gun legal in any circumstances?

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NavyLCDR
April 24, 2008, 04:52 PM
Which cruise line? I'll bet a dollar against a donut that the cruise line policy says no weapons.

everallm
April 24, 2008, 05:05 PM
The more relevant question would be Why?

roscoe
April 24, 2008, 05:07 PM
No you cannot.

Librarian
April 24, 2008, 07:12 PM
The foreign country part is a side-issue.

Cruise lines essentially use airport security procedures - walk-through magnetometers and carry-on and baggage :uhoh: scanning. You should check with your cruise line specifically, but it is highly likely that weapons of any kind are banned.

cowssurf
April 24, 2008, 07:56 PM
everallm,

Because I wouldn't mind carrying in some ports south of the border. Like many proponents of concealed carry, we feel it prudent to be prepared and to carry a firearm when possible.

brickeyee
April 24, 2008, 07:59 PM
Their ship, their rules.

jaysouth
April 24, 2008, 08:15 PM
Cowsurf,

Where 'south of the border' could you carry legally as a non-resident alien?

1. The cruise line won't allow weapons on board their ships.

2. Try to take a gun to Mexico, Beleize, Hondouras,Guatamala, Costa Rica or
Panama. You are going to eat a lot of beans and rice three times a day for
a very long time.

3. I do not do cruises any more, but if you go, stick to the tourist section. You
will be O.K.

Albatross
April 24, 2008, 09:07 PM
Big cruise ships are a definite no go and basically everywhere cruise ships go in the sun handguns are for government officials/elite only. However, cruise ships go to Alaska and Maine all the time, but again with all the major lines the big boats have metal detectors.

Plenty of small cruise ships exist without any security theater though, but price goes up and opportunities to be a sloth/gamble/pool parties go way down.

For example, CruiseWest is a small cruise ship company out of Seattle that goes through Alaska (their boats 200ft or less). I suspect companies just like them exist in the warmer climates, but like other posters have mentioned you'd be in breach of Mexican/whatever Caribbean island law.

I'd say your chance of getting caught are pretty slim on a small boat, but the risk of 3rd world prison is a heavy one. People do it often enough though, I recently read an article in a Yatching magazine regarding the illegal carrying of weapons in order to discourage pirates (and how to get away with it).

cowssurf
April 25, 2008, 01:35 AM
I've never been on a cruise and have no idea, really, what to expect. I've never been to Central America. I've only heard the horror stories. The cruise isn't my plan. It's a family reunion. I didn't think I could carry, but I thought, what the heck, I'll take a stab in the dark.

NavyLCDR
April 25, 2008, 01:57 AM
Start by looking at the cruise line's website for weapons on the ship. I sure as heck wouldn't take one ashore down there even if it is allowed on the ship.

Kharn
April 25, 2008, 09:31 AM
Most cruise ships are not flying the American flag, they're registered in other countries with laws & taxes more friendly towards ships. Thats why the cruise ships between Seattle and Alaska have to stop in Canada, since a foreign-flagged vessel or plane cannot legally carry passengers between two domestic sites.

This also means the ships do not follow US law while out at sea. Suffice to say, the only guns allowed on board are the crew's and the skeet shotguns.

Kharn

lonestarpriv
April 25, 2008, 12:53 PM
My guess is, if you take your weapon they will catch you carrying when boarding the ship and either take to the side for questioning or take the weapon from you. Its not a stupid question, though,

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