Customer Shoots Suspect In Liquor Store Robbery


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NotPbFree
April 27, 2008, 10:55 PM
Customer Shoots Suspect In Liquor Store Robbery

Posted: April 27, 2008 05:45 PM CDT

NASHVILLE, Tenn.- There was a deadly gunfight at a liquor store in Inglewood Saturday night. An armed robbery suspect was gunned down, after trying to rob the place. But it wasn't a police officer who took action.

None of the clerks in Sinkers Wine and Spirits had a gun to protect themselves, but they said they're thankful one of their customers did.

Sinkers Wine and Spirits lost some of their merchandise on Saturday night, but Clifford Baxter is hardly upset. He's just happy to have survived the gunfight that took place in his store over the weekend when two armed men tried to rob Sinkers late Saturday.

"I was in the back room, and came out and a man walked in with a pistol in his hand, and I went back to call 911," said Baxter.

Meanwhile, police said the suspects pointed a gun at store clerks and forced two customers to the ground. The would-be robbers probably didn't suspect that one of the customers would be carrying a gun nor that he would end up using it.

Baxter believes the customer and the suspects exchanged about ten gunshots. The would-be robbers tried to flee, but one of the men collapsed at the scene and died shortly after. Police said the citizen had a valid carry permit, and a right to protect himself.

"A citizen just like a police officer has the right to defend themselves or others, if they're in fear of death or serious bodily injury and that right extends to using deadly force," said Capt. David Imhof with Metro Police.

Even though the store was closed Sunday, Clifford Baxter had to come to work to clean up,

and while the workers at Sinkers are armed only with broken glass and a mop they're thankful one of their customer protected them with something more.

Metro police are still out looking for the other robbery suspect. They are also interviewing witnesses in the case to make sure the citizen's actions were justified. As for the workers at Sinkers who were unarmed at the time they said they have plans to protect themselves in the future.

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gym
April 27, 2008, 11:06 PM
Chalk up 1for the good guys

misterwhipple
April 27, 2008, 11:19 PM
"A citizen just like a police officer has the right to defend themselves or others, if they're in fear of death or serious bodily injury and that right extends to using deadly force," said Capt. David Imhof with Metro Police.

Cool beans! We don't often hear of public officials talking that way.

Winchester 73
April 27, 2008, 11:25 PM
Good news.
We need more reporting of these incidents.
NRA's American Rifleman prints several every month.
Don't look for these in the MSM.

sm
April 27, 2008, 11:58 PM
If there was a store camera that caught this, and it makes it to Internet, someone please provide the link .

Standing Wolf
April 28, 2008, 12:23 AM
An armed robbery suspect was gunned down...

I'd prefer "put down like a rabid dog."

Dksimon
April 28, 2008, 12:31 AM
good thing there was someone who was serious about protecting himself.

Good going and good reporting!

USMC 1975
April 28, 2008, 07:45 AM
" Stands up and applauds the CCW'er ".

This is a great example of just what carrying a weapon can do for a situation such as this when a responsible and clear thinking armed citizen decides to get involved.

Congrats and thank you for your service Mr. Citizen.

Chris

CNYCacher
April 28, 2008, 08:37 AM
Can we get a cite for this?

jwxspoon
April 28, 2008, 09:21 AM
http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080427/NEWS03/80427025

NotPbFree
April 28, 2008, 08:38 PM
http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?s=8234650

Video link on the same page to interview of the store owner. No in-store footage of the incident.

BruceRDucer
April 28, 2008, 09:31 PM
"Chalk up 1for the good guys."---Gym

You betcha!:)

mekender
April 28, 2008, 09:42 PM
yay for the good guy...

romma
April 28, 2008, 09:47 PM
Excellent! Good job for our guy!

Flopsy
April 28, 2008, 10:39 PM
Hold on...

...nevermind. Got it.

Move along, nothing to see here...:o

Nobody's_Hero
April 28, 2008, 10:49 PM
I wish the officers arriving on scene to this incident could sit down with their D.C. brothers and tell stories of good civilians (they do exist) making the boys' in blue jobs easier.

hunterSthompson
April 29, 2008, 02:37 AM
dirt nap good stuff

John G
April 29, 2008, 02:48 AM
Looks like the good guys win. Nice.

Australian Shooter
April 29, 2008, 02:54 AM
A win for the good guys, hooray!

Now if this happened in Australia, the store clerks and/or the customers would have been shot dead instead of the robbers.

Valkman
April 29, 2008, 05:05 AM
There was a deadly gunfight

Really? Is there any other kind?

Good for the permit holder!

BigO01
April 29, 2008, 05:30 AM
I can't believe people wrote comments defending the scumbag criminals .

Comments like "they were some ones children" "they didn't deserve to die JUST for this"

All I can say is yep , they were some ones child and whoever that some one is should have raised them correctly with morals and a sense of decency .

And I love the Old "they didn't deserve to die" line matter of fact they did or at the very least perhaps would have had the citizen not stopped them . How many times have armed robbers executed witnesses to try to prevent from being caught ? Did the workers there deserve to die because these animals are too lazy to get a real job ? Did the customers deserve to perhaps die because they wanted a some beer ?

If the they had been making their living in an honest manner rather than a dishonest criminal one they would still be alive .

I always have to shake my head at these morons who if a person were abusing say a dog by severely beating it gets bitten/attacked even to the point of death they would say deserve it yet make it a man on man encounter and the victim isn't suppose to have the same right of self preservation as a dog .

Dravur
April 29, 2008, 11:22 AM
I absolutely hate that line from bleeding hearts...

Hitler was someone's child. Mugabe was someone's child, Jeffery Dahmer was someone's kid. I can feel bad for the parents having given birth to pure evil, but that in no way would stop me from putting a bullet into one of them.

BruceRDucer
April 29, 2008, 02:13 PM
:)

"[Comments like "they were some ones children" "they didn't deserve to die JUST for this"]"---BOO1

The robber uses a DEADLY WEAPON, threatening DEADLY force, death and so on against other citizens to obtain cash.

What the robber views as appropriate for the victim, somehow is construed by some to be not an appropriate scenario for the robber.

Therefore, by some magical logic, those who defend the criminal believe that CRIMINALS do not deserve to be placed in the very circumstance that the CRIMINALS justify for others.

Or, another way of looking at it:

Criminals are justified in using deadly force to obtain cash; but law abiding property owners and customers are NEVER allowed to use deadly force to protect cash. CRIMINALS have an ETHICAL JUSTIFICATION that no other person has?:what:

I dunno, but am I missing something here?

I know WHAT THE PROBLEM is. It is because LAW makes things clear, but when someone argues as though their personal ETHIC is binding upon all citizens, instead of recognizing that only LAW is binding upon citizens, it creates a justification which robs the citizen of his rights at law. It makes it appear that we are all ruled by some sympathetic nut-case's ETHICS. Well, we ain't!

Seriously now, I think the issue is that humanity's hard-won Boundaries at Law, concerning our Person, and our Property, have become very muddled and confused.

I do like to think life is always sacred, but when someone threatens the life of others, it seems logical that either the ETHIC or the LAW must yield to the sensibility of self-defense. Since the law already recognizes SELF-DEFENSE, and does not acknowledge a vague ETHIC, it's a mute point.

Besides, ........the argument that the CRIMINAL was some Mother's Son, can be countered with the argument that the liquor store owner was also some Mother's Son. Why can't the CRIMINALS get THAT through their highly Ethical head?

Oh I get it! LOGIC can only be used to support a CRIMINAL ETHIC. Well DUH!

The_Shootist
April 29, 2008, 02:25 PM
So much for the 3 shots-3sec-3ft protocol.

I knew there was a reason I started carrying my G19 again this summer :D

CountGlockula
April 29, 2008, 02:31 PM
"A citizen just like a police officer has the right to defend themselves or others, if they're in fear of death or serious bodily injury and that right extends to using deadly force," said Capt. David Imhof with Metro Police.

If I was local, I'd treat Capt. Imhof to a nice steak.

Rokyudai
April 29, 2008, 02:43 PM
I know the comments left on their board can be :eek: when it comes to defending the bad guy.

He just had a baby and he's in school. --- He was at neither when this happened.

God doesn't like 'ungly'---whatever the heck that is... well, Ugly would be preying on the innocent, robbing from others, and disregarding their life by threatening them with a gun.

For all on there who say they knew him well enough to stick up for him on a internet comment board should then have known what life decisions he was making and maybe could have helped him get on a better track. :fire:

LiquidTension
April 29, 2008, 02:49 PM
Good job stepping up to the occasion. Glad nobody important was hurt.

shdwfx
April 29, 2008, 02:56 PM
What? No mass slaying of innocent bystanders with the exchange of fire?

IllHunter
April 29, 2008, 03:00 PM
Seriously now, I think the issue is that humanity's hard-won Boundaries at Law, concerning our Person, and our Property, have become very muddled and confused.


I consider myself part of humanity, I'm sure most here also do, I'm not confused nor muddled. I know right from wrong. It's not a hard thing to do. Good won this round over evil. Mr. Baxter hopefully will undertake some serious training regimen to steady his poa and nerves. May God Bless and keep him in the palm of his hand.

2) Another reason to treasure my Glock17 and all it's clips. Because I really don't know how it feels to be in a CQ gun fight.

3) Another blow to the anti arguments of how innocent bystanders would be victims of concealed carry engagements.

jrfoxx
April 30, 2008, 01:11 AM
My favorite comment from the Bg's "friends":

mlsisco wrote:

iamjumbo ,
Its sad that i am associating with your worthless behind. And just because he made one STUPID MISTAKE does not mean that he didnt care about his CHILD nor GIRLFRIEND. I bet you have made numerous mistakes in your life that were stupid. All that is well, ends well and at the end of the day he will be resting in peace with or without. So now, take that trash out.
4/29/2008 12:57:54 PM

Since when does armed robbery and attempted (and essentially outright premeditated) murder fall into the realm of "stupid mistake" by ANY stretch of the imagination. I guess this guy thinks everyone should get 1 free pass, with no punishment for murder, rape, child abuse, etc? after all, it could just be that persons first "stupid mistake". A couple of the commentors are just plain :eek::banghead::cuss:.

Good job on the customer's part, IMHO. Totally right, legal, appropriate and justified.

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