Another reason why I agree with self-defense and self-reliance


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GuyWithQuestions
April 28, 2008, 04:30 AM
You sometimes hear that prisoners complain that prison isn't good enough for them. This one guy who's in a county jail awaiting trial for "murder" is now suing the government because the jail he's at feeds them an average of 3,000 calories/day, which he claims is "starving" them, and gives them cold food instead of hot food. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7370362.stm Doesn't that make you want to be allowed to have firearms and be allowed more self-reliance to protect yourself from murderers, when you find out that these murderers are suing because they want to live in prison heaven?

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McCall911
April 28, 2008, 05:58 AM
I've got a very strong stomach, but reading that article makes me want to lose my lunch! :barf:

The guy has a paunch like he has 3,000 calories every meal!

PS. A stone is 14 pounds, so the guy already weighs 308 pounds!

mbt2001
April 28, 2008, 09:40 AM
Yeah...

"... You have just crossed over into....


The Twighlight zone."

Sato Ord
April 28, 2008, 09:59 AM
I say give him all of the food he wants!

He weighed over four hundred pounds going in. Make sure he gets lots of bacon and sausage. That way the SOB can die of a heart attack and save the tax payers some money in the long run over feeding and housing his fat *$$.

Prisoners do this kind of crap all the time. Especially when they are waiting trial in a county jail with more time on their hands than is good for them. If they fatten this idiot back up and he doesn't die of a heart attack or stroke, well...He'll have other things on his mind than food when he finally goes into general population in State.

1911Tuner
April 28, 2008, 11:21 AM
Sato...I had to strike a line out of your post. While we can appreciate the wry humor and the irony...and even the justice...it's not really THR-suitable.

Thanks

Old Dog
April 28, 2008, 03:44 PM
Some of you might be quite alarmed if you knew just how clogged U.S. courts are with lawsuits filed by prison inmates. They've nothing but time on their hands, and up-to-date law libraries and administrative assistance paid for by you, the taxpayer.

My state just paid out almost 200 grand to an inmate simply because the court determined the state's DOC didn't expeditiously provide him the miscellaneous and trivial admin documents he'd requested under the state's public disclosure laws ...

And how about nice rec yards, gyms replete with treadmills, stairclimbers and elliptical machines plus mega weightlifting equipment we provide our inmates so they can return to society bigger, stronger, faster and better-conditioned?

jakemccoy
April 28, 2008, 04:07 PM
ibtl

CypherNinja
April 28, 2008, 09:15 PM
Actually, it's my understanding that the strength training equipment has been quietly removed from prisons over the last couple of years.

No source, but I do seem to remember a news article about it.

cleardiddion
April 28, 2008, 09:40 PM
It's people like this that make me sick....

yakkingallover
April 28, 2008, 10:07 PM
Irony and disgust: I ate a cold sandwich at lunch today while working at my job which involves heavy lifting which keeps me skinnier than that slob I am feeding out of my paycheck every week. It never occured to me to file a complaint...

jakemccoy
April 28, 2008, 10:42 PM
How is this story related to guns?

armoredman
April 28, 2008, 11:10 PM
Not really, but I will throw my $.02 in - we did remove weight training stuff from the yards some time ago, after an inmate used a bar bell to kill another inmate.

GuyWithQuestions
April 29, 2008, 03:20 AM
How is this story related to guns?

I was pointing out that when you hear that those in trouble for murder are suing for things like that, it makes you believe that you have even more of a right for self-protection from would be murderers (such as owning firearms). At least that's how I feel.

roscoe
April 29, 2008, 04:03 AM
er - that is stretching the gun connection a bit

SomeKid
April 29, 2008, 04:59 AM
As an aside, when I last read that article, wasn't he awaiting trial? Do not assume he is guilty.

That said, were I him, I would be pissed I had to sit in jail for 8 months. Then, happy I lost the weight.

armoredman
April 29, 2008, 11:40 AM
SomeKid, don't be so sure, I know a lot of fat inmates. They buy all the store goodies they can, and eat every tray that come out.

Kitchen_Duty
April 29, 2008, 02:29 PM
Well, prisons suck don't they? Anyone? Oh well, ibtl

armoredman
April 29, 2008, 03:19 PM
Short answer, yes.

Carry Big Stick
April 29, 2008, 03:19 PM
You would think that the prisoners in the US would realize how much nicer they have it then prisoners in like Russia or Mexico. Here in the US you get your 3 sqr meals a day a bed and a roof, plus yard time and a chance to get your degree in crime. Not saying everyone that comes out of prison has not learned from it but I bet a good majority that are doing time aren't 1st timers.

PTK
April 29, 2008, 03:25 PM
Prison in the USA is looked upon as somewhat of a joke back in Russia, and I know most South American countries have a similar outlook.

jakemccoy
April 29, 2008, 03:45 PM
Let's make the U.S. like Russia, Brazil and Argentina because those countries are better.

PTK
April 29, 2008, 03:47 PM
jakemccoy

That's not what I was saying. I find it amusing that a suspected murderer is complaining about the living conditions in jail here in the USA, when prisoners here are better taken care of than most citizens of some countries.

DrewH
April 29, 2008, 03:48 PM
I was pointing out that when you hear that those in trouble for murder are suing for things like that, it makes you believe that you have even more of a right for self-protection from would be murderers (such as owning firearms). At least that's how I feel.

That is really stretching it to get to a gun connection.

Prisoners file all sorts of crazy lawsuits. They have lots of free time on their hands. Reading some oddball news story doesn't change my opinions on self defense and firearms ownership one bit.

Justin
April 29, 2008, 03:53 PM
er - that is stretching the gun connection a bit

Yep.

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