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ScotZ
April 29, 2008, 08:05 AM
Is this legit. Do you consider it better than a C&R? What is your take on this? Just Crap?:confused:

http://www.guncollectorlicense.com/orderlicense.html

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macmuffy
April 29, 2008, 09:15 AM
Want to be a wounderful person of (insert you hearts desire)?
For only $149US or $99US you too can be one!
Do you envy your friends because you don't have a degree?
You too can have a degree from Phoenix State University!

Be Degreeded in; (did you catch the greed part?:D)
Chess
Medical Billing
Knives
Shotguns
Gems
Engraveing
Private Investigator


Don't wait, rush your payment info to us today and in matter of weeks you can be a person of (insert your hearts desire).:D





Opps---forgot the link http://www.e-psu.com/

Soybomb
April 29, 2008, 09:37 AM
Do you consider it better than a C&R?
They seem to be very different things The C&R licenese is a FFL issued by the ATF to allow you to buy and sell old guns. What you linked is a degree mill diploma that says you're a gunsmith. If you want to buy old guns the latter doesn't help you out. If you want a diploma that says you're a gunsmith the 1st doesnt help you out.

Wopasaurus
April 29, 2008, 10:04 AM
Want to be a wounderful person of (insert you hearts desire)?
For only $149US or $99US you too can be one!
Do you envy your friends because you don't have a degree?
You too can have a degree from Phoenix State University!

Be Degreeded in; (did you catch the greed part?)
Chess
Medical Billing
Knives
Shotguns
Gems
Engraveing
Private Investigator


Don't wait, rush your payment info to us today and in matter of weeks you can be a person of (insert your hearts desire).


I think they do Ordained Ministers too..

Henry Bowman
April 29, 2008, 10:22 AM
What is your take on this? Just Crap?Just crap. A scam.

Dravur
April 29, 2008, 10:53 AM
Here at Dravur U, you too can be an accredited Gunsmith, Auto Mechanic or a Brain Surgeon. All you have to do is send me $99 and I will send to you, a one of a kind, fully printed form that definitely states that yes... you too are a Gunsmith, Auto Mechanic or a Brain Surgeon.

In fact, for only $10 more, you can have any title you want printed on one of our "diplomas" It will be printed on fine white paper and come with rich colored ink from our world famous color printer.

So, send us a check at Dravur U and you too can amaze your friends that you are a Brain Surgeon or even a Race Car Driver.

Be the envy of the neighborhood. think how much your friends will respect you if you have a wall full of Diplomas.

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aerod1
April 29, 2008, 01:49 PM
Is there a difference between "Pheonix State University" and "University of Pheonix"?
Surely the city of Pheonix doesn't have two low rated, worthless diploma factories!
I would never seek out a diploma with the name "Pheonix" on it.

Car Knocker
April 29, 2008, 03:38 PM
I would never seek out a diploma with the name "Pheonix" on it.
Because Phoenix is misspelled?

Aguila Blanca
April 29, 2008, 06:07 PM
Did you look at their accreditation? According to them, the AATVS accredited MIT.

Since when is MIT a "trade and vocational" school? I'll be this is news to MIT.

I just tried Googling AATVS. They have a web site. The design look suspiciously similar to that of the "university" claiming to be accredited by them. Curiously (or not), nowhere on the AATVS web site is there any indication of where they are located. There is no physical address, no mailing address, no telephone or fax number, and no e-mail contact. The only way to contact them is to fill out an on-line form and submit it, which allows them to remain anonymous to you.

I smell a rat.

TexasRifleman
April 29, 2008, 06:11 PM
Oh man that's hilarious....

Do they sell one that will make me a dentist?

Jorg Nysgerrig
April 29, 2008, 06:39 PM
Let's look at some registration for the supposed place these guys are accredited:

Registrant:
Halstead, Tom

7760 e SR 69
suite c5-390
Prescott Valley, AZ 86314
US

Domain Name: AATVS.ORG
Administrative Contact , Technical Contact :
Halstead, Tom
mail@tomhalstead.com
7760 e SR 69
suite c5-390
Prescott Valley, AZ 86314
US
Phone: 928-830-8467
Fax: 866-857-2594

Record expires on 04-Jan-2009
Record created on 04-Jan-2008
Database last updated on 04-Jan-2008

IP Address: 205.178.145.65 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)
IP Location: CA(CANADA)-ONTARIO-TORONTO
DMOZ no listings
Y! Directory: see listings
Web Site Title: AATVS.org
Data as of: 04-Jan-2008

Let's look at the site selling the certificate:

Registrant:
Halstead, Tom

7760 e SR 69
suite c5-390
Prescott Valley, AZ 86314
US

Domain Name: GUNCOLLECTORLICENSE.COM


Administrative Contact , Technical Contact :
Halstead, Tom
mail@tomhalstead.com
7760 e SR 69
suite c5-390
Prescott Valley, AZ 86314
US
Phone: 928-830-8467
Fax: 866-857-2594

Record expires on 25-Feb-2009
Record created on 25-Feb-2008
Database last updated on 25-Feb-2008

Domain servers in listed order: Manage DNS

NS11.WORLDNIC.COM 205.178.190.6
NS12.WORLDNIC.COM 205.178.144.6

Current Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
IP Address: 205.178.145.65 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)
IP Location: CA(CANADA)-ONTARIO-TORONTO
Lock Status: clientTransferProhibited
DMOZ no listings
Y! Directory: see listings
Data as of: 25-Feb-2008

Well, I'll be. The same guy!

There's plenty of equally damning information out there about this being some little gun shop in Arizona, but no point in beating up on the dead horse.

Caveat Emptor.

bogie
April 29, 2008, 07:04 PM
Dang, wish I'd thought of that scam...

Guys, I'll print y'all up something for $9.95...

elrod
April 29, 2008, 07:16 PM
.....And for only $59.95 your sweetheart, wife, or SO can have a star named after them.......

.....But wait, for an additional $29.95, for 3 days only, we can rename Uranus for your loved one! Please send check, MO, or..........:D:D:D

jrfoxx
April 30, 2008, 12:36 AM
I think thats the same place I got my Federal Bikini Inspector's badge and license from.....:D

add +1 to the "scam" votes.

qajaq59
April 30, 2008, 08:16 AM
Ahhhh gee, you guys just ruined it for the 1,234,567 people that sent them money. :evil:

Hokkmike
April 30, 2008, 08:21 AM
For a fee I' ll show you how to get what you other wise would have to pay nothing for!

hanno
April 30, 2008, 11:20 AM
Well, how many fools sent money to a PO box in Florida to get info on how to buy rifles from the government instead of just getting the info free from CMP?

There's a sucker born...

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