Walmart and Guns


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Lupinus
April 27, 2008, 08:13 PM
Just a heads up on another new WalMart policy.

On Friday I was in my local wally world getting a box of .22's and some other stuff. I was informed that it is now WalMart policy that any item that has an age restriction now requires ID to be swiped, no exceptions. This includes alcohol, tobacco, R rated movies, ammo, etc. I finally managed to get through the various phone calls confirming this is indeed corporate policy.

Sucks, around here walmart is the only place with decent practice ammo at anywhere near a decent price. 12 dollars vs 20 for a bulk pack of .22 remington for example.

Just figured I'd share so no one else is surprised.

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hpg
April 27, 2008, 08:15 PM
I purchased a brick last night, no I.D required at the Wal-Mart in Glasgow,Ky........hpg

Feud
April 27, 2008, 08:19 PM
They've been carding me for ammunition for several months now when I buy ammo there. Luckily, Bass Pro Shop is closer and almost as cheap!

Lupinus
April 27, 2008, 08:24 PM
Carding isn't a problem, I'm used to that.

Its the swiping my drivers license through the reader on the register.

hpg-
Do KY drivers licenses have the little reader strip on the back? If so I wonder if they just lied to me.

jakk280rem
April 27, 2008, 08:27 PM
i agree. carding is a non-issue. swiping my id for a legal purchase is a little orwellian for my taste. thank god for cheaper than dirt.

Gator
April 27, 2008, 09:06 PM
ID to be swiped..

:confused: Is this in a certain state? They can "swipe" my ID all they want, it won't do them any good.

RNB65
April 27, 2008, 09:11 PM
I believe that carding on ammo sales has always been required by WM. But it's universally ignored by everyone who has worked behind the gun counter for more than a week. The only time I've ever been carded was by clerks who were obvious brand new to sporting goods and had another WM clerk hanging over their shoulder showing them exactly what to do.
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Zach S
April 27, 2008, 09:32 PM
Is this in a certain state? They can "swipe" my ID all they want, it won't do them any good.I first heard about it here from a CA member.

I dont know if the police cars still have the swipe thing in thm to read the barcaode on my license, but they never worked from what I unsderstand. They just type the license # in.

If they didnt work in what they wer supposed to, I dont think its going to work in a CC reader.

I got a couple of valuepacks and some mini-mags at WM last night, just got carded. Some of the guys in sporting goods dont bother anymore. Almost always get carded for smokes, but no swiping of the DL for them either.

"Wal-Mart corporate policy" varies from store to store. Sometimes its different at one store, depending on who's working.

TonyB
April 27, 2008, 09:46 PM
In the past when I did get ammo at WM,it depended who was working on whether or not they ID'ed.....haven't gotten ammo there in a while..their prices are not that great these days.They always asked for a date of birth though,I always gave 12/25/1947....I'm only 40,but they never said a thing.
But I still love wal mart..anywhere you can buy underwear,a canned ham and bullets at 2am.....sign me up!;)

Kino74
April 27, 2008, 09:53 PM
Why does anyone buy from Walmart in the first place? Why support a company that sells crappy guns to begin with and doesn't care about us? Look take some time and shop around, you can find anything you want and without using a Chinese company front like Walmart. Check out gun shops that actually care about our rights.

Treo
April 27, 2008, 09:55 PM
Bought 200 rnds of WWB .40 last night only card they were interested in was the debit card

DKA
April 27, 2008, 09:59 PM
Bought brick of 22's last week and no ID Check.

Lupinus
April 27, 2008, 10:03 PM
these results are interesting

I'll have to follow up with this, cause that would mean I have a manager blowing smoke up my rear

RNB65
April 27, 2008, 10:06 PM
A few years ago I was in Wal Mart at Nags Head, NC. I wheeled a cart up to the checkout register with a bottle of sunscreen, some Diet Dew, chips, salsa, and 2000 rounds of Federal #8 target load. It was the middle of summer and all of the local WM's were sold out of target loads. The Nags Head store had an entire shelf full and I bought every box they had.

I didn't get carded. But I think I scared a couple of years off the life of the high-school age girl working the register.
:D

drphil
April 27, 2008, 10:17 PM
Just picked up some .22 and 9mm today. No ID swiped.

craig
April 27, 2008, 10:24 PM
i bought some .45 and 9mm from the wally world here today. no i.d. check.

Kino74... i have checked out the local shops. the local shops wanted $95.00 more for a 10/22 than wally world, and it wasn't a crappy gun. same model number on both boxes.

also, i had one of the local shops tell me that the wwb 9mm they sold was better than wally worlds that's why it was $7.00 more a box. we then compared lot numbers on the wally world box, and the box he was selling. they matched.

i crossed this shop off of my "places to buy from" list.

kingpin008
April 27, 2008, 10:25 PM
I'm betting you have a manager blowing smoke - I'm in MD, and I've had clerks ask me for my ID on occasion, but there's nothing for them to swipe, even if they wanted to. No barcode, nothing.

M203Sniper
April 27, 2008, 10:30 PM
Try the internet.

Green Lantern
April 27, 2008, 10:37 PM
I bought some .22's a week or two ago - ID check, but no swiping.

It wouldn't have done him a lick of good anyway, I don't need to get the license with all the info in the barcode until about 2013...

I work in a drugstore, we have to swipe all ID's for any Sudafed sales now. So at least in OUR system, here's how the old licenses like mine work: The barcode won't bring up ANY info. Buuut - we have to type it all in the FIRST time. Then for any LATER purchases, whatever we typed in stays on record. Hmm...

Now, NEW NC licenses have all the info 'in' the barcode already, and offhand I recall that FL and SC licenses have at least some of the info in the code (or stripe we run through the credit card reader).

BTW, this was in a border town between two states, but there must not be any people from my side shopping there much - took the poor guy 5 minutes to find my birthdate...

Now, I'm not saying how WAL-MART does it because I don't know! But, FYI: the whole purpose of drugstores scanning licenses for Sudafed/PSE sales is to keep a database of who buys it, when, and where!!!

neviander
April 27, 2008, 10:47 PM
I got carded at the Wal-Mart here in Kilgore, TX when I asked for a box of .22s, 50, not a brick (testing extraction and ejection on a .22 rifle I haven't fired in years) and the clerk asked me if it was for a hand gun :confused: I said "no, it's for a rifle" with a bewildered look on my face.

I realize that that is none of his cotton pickin' business and he really has no business asking that, but I'm really not the type to get huffy about something inconsequential like that.

Anybody else have that question asked them at Wal-Mart?

Walkalong
April 27, 2008, 10:47 PM
Picked up a couple of bricks two weeks ago. No ID etc.

kingpin008
April 27, 2008, 10:51 PM
Try the internet.

Uh, what?

EODDoogie
April 27, 2008, 10:52 PM
Bought 400 rds of 9mm yesterday at the Wally World here on North Rock in Wichita and wasn't carded. In fact the old guy and I shot the poop for about 20 minutes. I asked him about the carding thing and asking if the ammo they sell was for rifles or pistols, he said he had never heard of that policy.

Green Lantern
April 27, 2008, 11:01 PM
Anybody else have that question [is it for a rifle or handgun?] asked them at Wal-Mart?

At least the last time I was there, maybe beforehand...

It didn't overly bug me until I later learned that they're in bed with Mike Bloomberg's "Mayors against 'illegal' guns" coalition. So long, Wally World, nice knowin' ya!

Though, let me tell you about this Wal-Mart. It's pretty new. It's not a "SUPER Wal-Mart." At first, they had no plans to sell guns AT ALL. But not too long after they opened, they had a place set-up for guns, and then they had it stocked shortly thereafter...

Try the internet.

Uh, what?

cheaperthandirt.com
sportsmansguide.com
natchez.com (sp?)
ammoman.com
outdoor-marksman.com

(not sure all of these work, but...you get the idea! ;) )

mp510
April 27, 2008, 11:05 PM
I asked him about the carding thing and asking if the ammo they sell was for rifles or pistols, he said he had never heard of that policy.
That is a pre-screen for the next question- which deals with age. If you answer rifle, it will ask if you are 18. If you answer pistol, it will ask if you are 21.

kermit315
April 27, 2008, 11:10 PM
Just picked up some .22 and 9mm today. No ID swiped.

Same here, and even if they wanted to swipe it, I would tell them exactly where to stick it.

Bruce333
April 27, 2008, 11:10 PM
I've never been carded at a Wal-Mart.

Good luck to 'em trying to swipe the new NC DL in a credit card reader. It's a 2D barcode, not a magnetic strip, and it's encrypted. Barcode readers for the 2D barcode are still rather expensive, and the regular UPC barcode reader won't recognize the 2D code.

The Lone Haranguer
April 27, 2008, 11:54 PM
I've never been "carded" for ammo purchases at Wal-Mart, and in fact just bought some yesterday. I do sometimes get carded for alcohol, but much less frequently in recent months. They do sometimes "swipe" my driver's license (which has a credit-card-like magnetic strip), other times just ask to see it, if they do it at all. I was assured that all the reader looks for is date of birth, and this is all I see come up on the screen.

If there is such a policy of making everyone show ID, no exceptions, it is not universally or consistently followed, even between cashiers in a single store.

jakk280rem
April 28, 2008, 03:55 AM
not ammo related or an attempt at thread jacking, but a couple months ago i was at a wm and purchased three gun mags 2000 rnds 22, 2 boxes of 38's, and 2 boxes of 357's and all the clerk had to say was "guns are bad".

03Shadowbob
April 28, 2008, 07:26 AM
Didn't have to show ID last night for my ammo. I did have to pay $13 for a brick of Remington .22. At Gander Mountain, they are asking $22 or $23 for a brick so I'll continue to get it at Walmart.

Deanimator
April 28, 2008, 08:46 AM
Why support a company that sells crappy guns to begin with and doesn't care about us?
Because on those rare occasions when I need ammunition for which I don't reload, I don't want to drive an hour and pay twice as much... if the gunstore is even open after I get off from work. Here in NE Ohio, my only reasonably close alternative to Walmart is Dick's Sporting Goods, who have even WORSE service than Walmart, and usually higher prices. THEY only sell "crappy guns" too and bought out a GOOD chain, Galyan's.

NO corporation "cares" about you. They care about your patronage and your money. Are you therefore going to disconnect all of your utilities because they're run by large, unfeeling corporations?

velobard
April 28, 2008, 09:00 AM
That is a pre-screen for the next question- which deals with age. If you answer rifle, it will ask if you are 18. If you answer pistol, it will ask if you are 21.

That could explain why the only time I get asked that question is when I check out at the front of the store instead of the sporting goods department. I'm obviously over 21 and the folks in the SG dept would just bypass that question since they know why it's asking.

My local Walmart doesn't sell any guns, but to be honest I can understand why because of the neighborhood immediately behind the store. There are other Walmarts within several miles where I could by them if I wished, but I've never bought a gun from them.

Just as a price comparison on ammo, at Walmart the 9mm WWB is currently $18.42, at a favorite gun shop with an indoor range it's $21.10 (up from $20 even a few weeks ago), and at Cabela's it's $23.99.

As for shopping at Walmart or not, I've gone to Walmart ever since I was a little grasshopper and their store in my dad's hometown was a modest building tucked behind the grocery store in a small town in the Ozarks. Regardless of where I shop I try to be concious of trying to buy American-made items when possible, preferably from an American-owned company. Our economy needs all the help it can get right now. It is sad to remember the signs that Walmart used to hang in the store touting American made goods and now they don't even try anymore. I have no doubts that Sam Walton would be dismayed at some of the directions his company has taken.

Sato Ord
April 28, 2008, 10:54 AM
NO corporation "cares" about you. They care about your patronage and your money. Are you therefore going to disconnect all of your utilities because they're run by large, unfeeling corporations?

By the logic you present I get the impression that I should just suck it up and shop at a store I am unhappy with. I have stopped shopping at wal-mart completely. I can buy everything they sell by shopping on line, and get a better selection. If the money is going to go out of town to some corporation I can see no reason to support Sam Walton's widow's high lifestyle.

Sam Walton would turn over in his grave if he could see what has been done to the service oriented chain of stores he personally built.

Remember when Wal-mart used to have big wide isles and the people who worked their were friendly and had a good general knowledge of their products?

Now, they may still have a good general knowledge of their products, but over half of them barely speak any English at all around here. You ask for help and they smile and shake their heads and say no-habla, and go back to their mops and buckets. The only ones who do speak English work at the service desk and the cash registers, and they are surly beyond belief. They are more interested in their conversations with the next cashier over, and are annoyed with interruption of having to do their jobs.

Remember when Wal-mart advertised that they bought products made in the USA unless there was no alternative?

Now, you are hard pressed to find anything in the store that is made in the USA.

The new policy about firearms is simply the last straw for me. I don't shop at Wal-mart any more.

Ltlabner
April 28, 2008, 11:45 AM
Just bought ammo a few days ago at Wall-Mart. They haven't swiped my ID yet.

They do ask if the ammo is rifle/handgun and if I'm 18/21. Fortunatley (or now, more unfortunatley) I look old enough that they don't ask to see the ID when I tell them "yes".

Rocketman56
April 28, 2008, 12:42 PM
My SIL, who works in the WM home-office, said the policy was to "Check" IDs much more aggressively, not swipe them..
Apparently, in some states, (she didn't elaborate) swiping the ID is against the law..

Not that somebody can't have a fake ID, but...

Also, after some of her stories, I NEVER pay anything but cash at WM or SC.. Inconvenient, but..

Later,
Steve

Lupinus
April 28, 2008, 03:39 PM
Update-

As I think I have mentioned I talked to CS who referred the issue to store management, who said that is was corporate policy. In light of how many have not needed ID swiped I have called back to try and get an answer for corporate. CS guy says there is no such policy to his knowledge and is forwarding the issue to someone at corporate store operations to call me back.

I'll report back on how that goes and if it is indeed corporate policy or store policy. As a management at the store has said it is corporate policy "because a lot of ID's aren't being checked" it is at least a store level issue, not the kid who was at the register. In either case, I wont have my ID swiped and it would be interesting to see if WalMart tells the store to knock it off since it is loosing customers.

And yes, I'd rather buy from the local store, would even pay a few bucks more. But when the price on a bulk pack of .22 is seven dollars more (a high percentage more considering the price of a bulk pack of .22's) and even more then that for practice ammo on other calibers, the local store is overpricing it. A few bucks is one thing, well above 50% more is another.

geophysicishooter
April 28, 2008, 04:05 PM
I have been "stocking up" on .45 acp at the wallyworld recently and when the guy asks me if it's for a handgun, I tell him, "No, it's for my thompson carbine."

The look on his face is priceless. I know he knows I'm lying to him but it's what he needs to hear so... whatever.

It's been the same two guys back there every time I've been in so, I've built something of a repoir with him. I asked him about it the last time I went through there. He told me it's a federal law that he has to ask for ID for "handgun ammo" but not for "rifle ammo". Odd that there seems to be no consideration for 'dual use' ammo. Said there had been a fed LEO (ATF I think he said) in recently and the only way he knew that was when he asked for his ID and the guy showed him his id badge and commented that he was glad to see the counter guy had asking for ID..

As far as swiping the ID.. man, that's really kinda scary. someone already said Orwellian, I agree. Orwellian. :uhoh:

230RN
April 28, 2008, 04:09 PM
The more I read about this kind of crap the more I want to pass a neodymium magnet over my wallet.

Let 'em enter the public, printed information by hand.

If they want my SSN, they can ask for it.

And I'll laugh in their faces, or give 'em the old 078-05-1120 number:

http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/misused.html

WayneConrad
April 28, 2008, 04:43 PM
I don't buy ammo at Wally-world often; it'll be interesting to see if they ask me next time I do.

Up to now, the white hairs in my beard have been convincing evidence of my majority.

Dismantler
April 28, 2008, 05:26 PM
Manchester, NH today, 04/28/2008.
Three 550 boxes of .22's. No ID asked for. (Of course, they can see that I am WELL over 21! :))

30 cal slob
April 28, 2008, 05:29 PM
Walked into my local Wal-Mart last night to stock up on some 9 mm ammo. I usually purchase the Winchester white box "100 round value packs" - the "practice ammo" (not the real 118 gr WWB FMJ stuff that is sold by the 50 round quantity).

I noticed several signs saying something to the effect of

Due to the recent ammo shortage, we are limiting customers to five boxes of Winchester 9mm, 40 mm (sic), and 45 mm (sic) hundred-round value packs.

I'm guessing this is a fairly local practice and is in response to the hoarding. Witnessed it myself on a number of occasions. One time a lady in front of me cleaned out the whole shelf and stockroom of the 9mm (literally cleaned it out - 20 boxes). The sporting goods managers I've spoken with (all good eggs by the way) say people tend to go cuckoo on Friday afternoons and Saturday mornings to stock up for range time.

In fact, I think the bullet hoarding one hour outside Noo Yawk City is worse than the rice-hoarding at the local Sam's Club. lol.

p.s. the stash of WWB 9mm 118 gr FMJ ammo was virtually untouched.

Adirondack1
April 28, 2008, 05:55 PM
Unfortunately Cheaper than dirt, and sportsmans guide won't sell legal products to people in NY and NJ. So wally world carding for ammo is just a continuation of the erosion of our rights.

BigGunsMoreFun
April 28, 2008, 06:55 PM
Walmart has joined the anti-gun crowd. They are dead to me. I will never set foot inside another one as long as I live. They stopped selling guns in South Florida. They stopped carrying anything but 22LR, 9mm, 38special, 44magnum, 45auto and 30/30 ammo and a few shotgun shells. This all happened within the last 8 months or so. Now I get this in my email from Gun Reports.

April 16, 2008

Wal-Mart Agrees To Gun-Retailing Restrictions
By Scott Freigh, Gun Reports Staff
Wal-Mart has agreed to adopt a 10-point retailing system pushed by the anti-gun group Mayors Against Illegal Guns.


Wal-Mart, the largest seller of firearms in the nation, cooperated in the drafting of and adopted what the Mayors Against Illegal Guns group calls the Responsible Firearms Retailer Partnership.


The Responsible Firearms Retailer Partnership, created by Mayors Against Illegal Guns and Wal-Mart, is a set of policies that will be implemented over time that includes video recording of sales, rigid controls on inventory, checks that gun purchasers are not misrepresenting themselves and the development of a first-of-its kind computerized crime gun trace log for retailers.


The new crime gun trace log will flag purchases by customers who have previously bought guns later recovered in crimes.


Wal-Mart will implement the 10-point code at its stores where firearms are sold. The announcement was made April 15 at the Mayors Against Illegal Guns National Summit, held at the Ronald Reagan Building and International Trade Center in Washington, D.C.


"We know the ways that guns can end up being used in crimes. Now a responsible and innovative company has stood up with our over-300 member coalition of mayors to strengthen their sales practices to keep guns out of the hands of criminals," said New York City Mayor and coalition co-chair Michael R. Bloomberg. "I've always believed in leading by example, and Wal-Mart has again demonstrated why it's a great American company. The Responsible Firearms Retailer Partnership makes good sense - it will have no impact on a well-intentioned and law-abiding gun buyer - but will help keep Americans safer."


"Wal-Mart currently uses a strong point of sale system that allows us to serve the many hunters and outdoorsmen who've made us their retailer of choice, while also ensuring the responsible sale of firearms," said JP Suarez, senior vice president and chief compliance officer, Wal-Mart. "This code is a way for us to fine tune the things we're already doing and further strengthen our standards. We hope other retailers will join us in adopting the code."


"Partnerships like this one emphasize our mission to keep illegal guns off our streets, and reinforces that we are not cracking down on legal gun owners and the Second Amendment," said Boston Mayor and coalition co-chair Thomas M. Menino. "This is about public safety and I want to thank Wal-Mart for taking responsibility and being a leader in this area. This code of contact will have no impact on the rights of responsible gun owners, but will help mayors and our law enforcement stop the proliferation of illegal guns."


According to the US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), 46% of its criminal gun trafficking investigations involved straw purchasers, where someone who is not legally allowed to purchase a firearm does so through the use of a proxy, known as a straw buyer. Examples of the provisions in the Responsible Firearms Retailer Partnership intended to deter and stop illegal purchasers are videotaped sales, increased monitoring of fake IDs, the crime gun trace log, and increased training for employees to spot illegal purchases.


Additionally, the inventory controls and increased physical security for firearms in the Responsible Firearms Retailer Partnership are intended to stem lost and stolen guns, which ATF reports often make their way into the illegal market.


Elements of the 10 points of the Responsible Firearms Retailer Partnership include videotaping the point of sale for all firearms transactions; a computerized crime gun trace log and alert system, and employee background checks.

That's it for me. Walmart has jumped on the anti-gun bandwagon with both feet. They will never get any of my business again.

Molon Labe,
Joe
:fire:

Vader
April 28, 2008, 07:18 PM
Big Guns, Florida City Walmart still sells guns, I recently bought a crickett for my grandson,they had shottys and even some Marlins. Carol City and Hialeah Gardens stores sells ammo. I dont know where you live but check your stores physically, dont rely on third party info.

RancidSumo
April 28, 2008, 07:29 PM
Your wallmart sells 100rd boxes of 45mm shells? That can't be a common seller.

Atla
April 28, 2008, 08:04 PM
Hrm.

I went by our Walmart earlier and they were out of almost all Winchester White Box stuff, they still had plenty of the Remington UMC 250 round packs(which is better stuff anyways).

Our's is usually well stocked, even when there is a local match.

Big45
April 28, 2008, 08:04 PM
My Walmart sells all of it, and I'm squarely behind enemy lines. I buy it too it's relatively cheap.

theotherwaldo
April 28, 2008, 08:12 PM
My city just bought our local WalMart. We're going to turn it into a very large public library.

As a librarian, I definitely approve.

I promise not to ration books.

Jorg Nysgerrig
April 28, 2008, 08:16 PM
BigGunsMoreFun, there have already been several threads about that. No need to muck up this thread with it.

Bazooka Joe71
April 28, 2008, 08:18 PM
Another Wal-Mart thread...Thank God!!! I haven't read one of these in close to an hour.

BigGunsMoreFun
April 28, 2008, 08:57 PM
I live in Greenacres, FL and there is not a Walmart withing 100 miles that sells guns any more and most carry very little ammo. I drove to every one I could find personally. I could not believe it when I heard it. I went a saw for myself.

If you know of a Walmart within 100 miles of the 33467 area code that still sells guns, I'd like to know about it. Although given their current policies, I doubt I will ever do business there again.

Molon Labe,
Joe
:scrutiny:

.cheese.
April 28, 2008, 09:07 PM
where can I get this 45 mm ammo?

mekender
April 28, 2008, 09:08 PM
local walmart told me that they havent had WWB 9mm in the warehouse in the last month

craig
April 28, 2008, 09:48 PM
the wally world here isn't rationing ammo, but as of sun. morning they were out of wwb 9mm.

i bought the last of it.:neener:

Atla
April 28, 2008, 10:01 PM
I heard the same thing at my local walmart about the warehouse running out.

Very peculiar.

moooose102
April 28, 2008, 10:14 PM
i dont know if they are rationing ammo or not. i really couldn't care less. i wont even walk through their "gun" department anymore. as far as i am concerned, they could put in a peanut farm in it place. if they are going to be "anti- gun" then be anti gun. get rid of them and ammo, and hunting clothing and all the rest of the stuff that goes along with it. all of the local gun stores and us would be better served by dealing with someone that cares and is interested in the industry.

Green Lantern
April 28, 2008, 10:55 PM
not ammo related or an attempt at thread jacking, but a couple months ago i was at a wm and purchased three gun mags 2000 rnds 22, 2 boxes of 38's, and 2 boxes of 357's and all the clerk had to say was "guns are bad".

Seriously? Jeez. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but not always to SHARE it! IE, I think that waiting until 30 seconds untill we close (at the end of a 13-hour day) and coming in and wanting a refill on your Viagra is "bad," but I have more tact than to TELL the customer that! :what:

Sixtigers
April 28, 2008, 10:57 PM
My Walmart is actually pretty cool about ammo. They order it by the case for me, and give me 10% off when I do.

Auburn1992
April 28, 2008, 11:00 PM
Last time I went to stock up on 9mm they were all out except for some defensive ammo which I did not want.

Halo
April 28, 2008, 11:45 PM
I guess the quality of the gun department depends heavily on the individual store. The Wal-Mart near my parents' in the NC mountains actually has a decent selection of reloading supplies and components, not to mention loaded ammo and firearms. It's the only Wal-Mart I've ever seen selling reloading supplies.

Bartkowski
April 28, 2008, 11:49 PM
Thank god my nearest wal mart isn't rationing ammo. Its the only place with .22lr ammo under $15 a brick.

.cheese.
April 28, 2008, 11:52 PM
no.... but it bothers me that whenever I buy ammo the guy is shaking his head in disapproval. Why is that necessary?

jakemccoy
April 28, 2008, 11:53 PM
One scam after the other, we all know Wal Mart couldn't go unnoticed after Costco made their announcement on rice shortage.

PhilA
April 28, 2008, 11:57 PM
Just bought 4 boxes of .45 tonight. The guy didn't even ask me for ID, let alone swipe it.

Not sure where the OP heard about this "corporate policy," but I'm not seeing it.

Logan5
April 29, 2008, 12:23 AM
Last time I was in the one in the Stamford area, no such sign, but they had pretty bare shelves... except for boxes and boxes of .38 Super, a few hundred rounds. How wierd is that for Wall Mart?

kermit315
April 29, 2008, 12:24 AM
he heard it from the same people that say that concealed/open carry is against "corporate policy"; managers that dont know any better, or are trying to set their own policy.

cindynles
April 29, 2008, 12:39 AM
I bought over $200 worth of .223, 9mm, and 44mag on Sat, paid cash with no questions.:cool:

doc2rn
April 29, 2008, 01:01 AM
Its a heavy product to ship and with gas prices they are probably cutting back. My Walmart, which has guns, has had trouble getting ammo shipped in.

sailortoo
April 29, 2008, 01:48 AM
Local NM Wally World, bought 100 rnds .22 mag., and 50 rnds. .357. Lady clerk was obviously clueless about anything to do with firearms and ammunition. As an afterthought, she did ask if these were for handguns or rifles - caught me by surprise, as I hadn't been asked that before. I explained that they were dual ammunition, suitable for handguns or rifles - that really confused her! Just to put her at ease, I said both are for rifles, and who cares? No carding - I look like I might have been one of Teddy Roosevelts original Rough Riders, so no age questions. These folks are just sales clerks, and are told what to do, and what to ask - so I try to be civil to them - just so none pull the statement in an earlier post,"guns are bad" - that will result in a long talk between the manager on duty, and the aberrant clerk. With the recent, and continuing price rise of ammo, I need to use Wally World, like it or not.
sailortoo

Hanzerik
April 29, 2008, 01:56 AM
Our Wally World has almost two full shelves (last week when I was in there) of 9mm and .45ACP 100rnd bulk packs. i don't think they are rationing.

Hanzerik
April 29, 2008, 01:59 AM
Picked up 200 rounds of 45ACP and 100 rounds of 9mm last Sunday and wasn't carded. They usually ask my age, but he didn't this time, maybe because I'm in there buying ammo all the time.

akodo
April 29, 2008, 02:17 AM
seems kind of silly to turn away paying customers.

What happens if you walk in, buy 5, pay, put in car, return, buy 5, etc?

What happens if you ignore the sign?

What happens if you say "YOU ARE ONLY DENYING ME THIS SALE BECAUSE OF MY RELIGION/SEXUAL ORIENTATION/ETHNICITY" at the top of your lungs.

If I had a 40 or 45 I'd love to take one extra, and if they cite the sign simply point out "But I am not buying 45mm"

caltek1911
April 29, 2008, 03:15 AM
Sometimes I get asked my age, and sometimes they ask to see my ID, but no swiping. The only time it got swiped was for beer at 7-11.

coloradokevin
April 29, 2008, 05:13 AM
Gee... I don't really like that much, and not many things upset me too much.

In CO the license do have a mag strip on the back, and I do swipe licenses/ID's in my vehicle when I am clearing people. This works well, and I like it well enough (also helps identify some of the better fake ID's more easily).

But, I don't see any reason why I should have to swipe an ID to buy ammo, cold medicine, etc. I understand checking my ID, but it might be going a bit far when this stuff is electronically recorded with every purchase (though, keep in mind that the voluntary use "value" cards store the same kind of information every time you use them).

86thecat
April 29, 2008, 05:46 AM
If they are swiping ID's load the checkout with everything you need from WM (stock up) and a box of ammo last. When they want to swipe your ID, tell them you will shop somewhere else. Then go let customer service know why someone is now restocking a cart full of their merchandise. If sporting goods won't let you take the ammo up front before swiping ID, let them have the full cart. Maybe 10 or twenty of your shooting friends would like to do the same some busy friday evening.

Bazooka Joe71
April 29, 2008, 03:05 PM
If I had a 40 or 45 I'd love to take one extra, and if they cite the sign simply point out "But I am not buying 45mm"

LOL...Where do they keep the 45mm anyway?

I don't think my local Wal-Mart carries it.:p

Top_Notch
April 29, 2008, 03:19 PM
Not mine. The sales guy was nice enough to retrieve a box in order to make carrying all the 45 ACP/9MM/ and 22 CCI boxes easier. This was just last week. Could have bought more had I brung more money! :)

AndrewGWU
April 29, 2008, 03:37 PM
Mine isn't, but there again, they never have the WWB in 9mm FMJ anymore. I have to go two or three times every week before I eventually luck up and find some. Its about time to stop buying there.

Im283
April 29, 2008, 05:06 PM
I went to buy Federal .22lr in the 550pack Sunday night. Sold out of it.
Bought two boxes 550 Rem Golden Bullet instead. About a 2 dollar per box increase over the Fed. The guy at the counter said they had trouble getting federal in anymore.

I looked to see if they had 9mm value packs but none was there to be found.

I do not mind if they ration. Makes it fair for everyone. Ammo hoarders are just sticking it to other shooters and helping drive up prices I think.

i'd like to have a box of 9mm but if someone goes ahead of me and buys all of it I guess I am on the short end.

And as for the picture taking, well I do not mind. I ain't hiding nothing from anyone. If I want something off paper I will buy in a FTF sale from a private seller. Whats the big deal?

Dksimon
April 29, 2008, 05:16 PM
My local walmart hasnt made any cutbacks in the guns. They just recently built a new desk and gun case back there. Maybe they are taking the guns and ammo from your stores and brining it here!

Lupinus
April 29, 2008, 05:26 PM
Just got off the phone with someone names Viki at corporate. She states that the new policy is that in states with a readable strip clerks are to swipe the ID. She didn't make mention if the system required it in order to proceed, but it's policy according to her.

I told her that that means while it is in effect I'll suck up a large percentage increase on certain items and go down the street.

On the upside she seemed to understand my points and not brush them off, and if it was acting she deserve a little golden man (at least the cheap plastic ones walmart sells). "Hundreds of internet forum responses from various forums with my same reaction" seemed to sink in the most.

Will try it out in a few weeks just to see if it's still in place. If it is no more hassle then telling the clerk to put it back on the shelf.

Wang
April 29, 2008, 05:27 PM
I read here that members are buying guns at Walmart. I have bought a few guns from Walmart in the past, as I found that they had good prices on Rifles and Shotguns. None of the Walmart Stores here in Southwest Ohio (Cincinnati Area) sell guns anymore. Is that also the case in their stores in other areas?

Spyvie
April 29, 2008, 05:31 PM
FWIW, I just returned from a trip to the Walmart near me, in Littleton, CO. I purchased some .22lr and some 7.62x39 without even showing my I.D.

My Colorado DL does have a magnetic strip, and there have been recent news reports about local liquor stores swiping I.D.s

The Lone Haranguer
April 29, 2008, 05:40 PM
Here (Phoenix metro) all the ones I've been to had at least ammo. Some have guns, some do not.

highfive
April 29, 2008, 05:44 PM
Here in Central Texas they all still carry guns and ammo....

chris in va
April 29, 2008, 05:50 PM
WalMart is scaling back their firearm sales. Someone else can chime in, but I believe only a small percentage will still sell them according to market strength. They also had legal issues IIRC.

Jorg Nysgerrig
April 29, 2008, 05:53 PM
Seriously, it's like Groundhog Day in here.

Hkmp5sd
April 29, 2008, 05:58 PM
If they sell a lot of guns, they sell guns. If they are in an area with few guns sales, it is not cost effective for them to sell guns. If they are in an area with many gun laws, it may not be cost effective for them to sell guns. It really depends on the market. They make their money on buying large quantities of products at cheaper prices. That includes guns.

bogie
April 29, 2008, 06:00 PM
Can we just have one GIANT wal-mart thread?

Dksimon
April 29, 2008, 06:02 PM
All local walmarts that i have been to sell long guns. They dont seem to have much ammo in pistol cartriges but they have 9mm and thats all im worried about.

I havent seen any in my area even scale back their gun department.

Justin
April 29, 2008, 06:14 PM
Can we just have one GIANT wal-mart thread?

Your wish is my command. From here on out, you can come to this thread to get all of your anti-big-box retailer commentary in bulk and at deep discount prices.

In fact, the entire point of this thread will be to drive all of the mom-and-pop anti-walmart threads right out of business.

bogie
April 29, 2008, 06:36 PM
http://www.thehighroad.org/search.php?searchid=4029102

TonyB
April 29, 2008, 06:54 PM
apparently the manager has alot to do with it....The sportinggoods manager at my local WM was all ready give me a 10-20% discount if I bought a case of Winclean...untill he ran it by the store manager....she put the kibosh on it.He was all apologetic and said she was "touchy about gun stuff"This was a while back.
I went to WM today for other stuff and took a run through the "gun dept"...the y downsized their ammo stock quite a bit,I was going to ask the Kid about it but he seemed to be having register issues w/ a customer and was about to cry,so I just kept walking.

I would be a shame if they stopped carrying ammo all together.

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