[MicroBalrog]

http://homepage.mac.com/leperous/.Pictures/blinders.jpg

[Zedicus]

LMAO! Good one!

[whoami]

That is just WRONG! Absolutely WRONG, I tell you!

The duct tape and plastic are missing.

[Keith]

I'm beginning to agree with you.

Micro has been polite and on topic in the past, but all of this stuff he's dumping on here today is just anti-American "trolling".

I'm wondering why these threads are remaining open and why he isn't being tossed off as has happened with other trolls?

Keith

[Ian]

These posters (the ones I've seen , at any rate) are pro-American and anti-Federal-government; not anti-American. The American ideal is one of freedom, independence, and not having to deal with tax-funded goons.

[agricola]

rofl

microbalrog i'd like to nominate you as THR's foremost red-under-the-bed

:D

victory to the TSA!

[Matt G]

Attack the argument, if you must, but not the person. If you have questions as to the agenda of a poster here (which, in this case would seem to be obvious enough), then ask them politely. Do not bellittle your fellow members.

-Matt G
The High Road Staff

P.S.-- This admonishment does not preclude other Staff members from taking action in this thread.

[Keith]

Attack the argument, if you must, but not the person.

I haven't seen an argument presented. I'm seeing propaganda pictures dropped on the board with no text whatsoever. And the person starting these multiple threads has not returned to offer any argument or reasoned response.

Weirdly (or not), I AGREE with the sentiment expressed - nobody is more opposed to the "Patriot Act" than I. Yet, the forum is suppose to be based on reasoned debate, not this "hit and run" nonsense.

Keith

[MicroBalrog]

I think Zedicus got the joke, and a few others did, too...:D

[seeker_two]

I haven't seen an argument presented.

Read the L&P posts for the last six months. The arguement has been presented there... :)

Micro: Where are you getting the original posters that these are based on? I'd love to have that link--being a student of WWI & all... :cool:

Well done... :D :D :D

[Keith]

If I began posting multiple threads with Aryan or Palestinian propaganda "art work", would you "get it"?

Keith

[KC]

I think MicoBalrog's position is fairly clear. He tends to be opposed to centralization, he doesn't like the jingoistic BS on some of the 24/7 infotainment channels, and he is hoping that people in this country will wake up and look at some of the intrusions in their civil rights.

I think he's also a snapperhead who read "1984" and/or anything written by Robert Anton Wilson at a tender age, and he is acting on it. Good for him. I don't think of what he's done to be 'anti-american trolling'. Satire yes, but not anti-american...unless you side with the target of his jabs.


Hey MicroBalrog: are you looking to emigrate here when you are done in the IDF? Or are you just having fun putting some people's panties in a bunch?

[KC]

"By the way, America happens to be Israel's best allie."
Yes, ALLY, not master of.

"Wouldn't he best served to satire Palistine?"
Are you kidding? That bunch doesn't need it's foibles pointed out--they're obvious enough as it is. Besides, it's not as if Palestine has a government to mock.

"It's one thing if he is an American satiring this country...Especially if he doesn't even live here. "
Since when has that ever stopped anyone? Further, is it then wrong for any american to criticize/poke fun at other countries, wether they live there or not? (Would it make you feel better if I had posted it, or changed the intended message if I had posted it?)
Rember, it might be a crime or simply impossible to publish/post this sort of thing in the countries of our other allies. (I think that France, Germany, Japan, and maybe England to have controls on this sort of thing. Certainly, many countries in S.America, Asia, Middle East, & Africa do.) You are comparing the US to them? If so, please stop.

[Moparmike]

^ Indeed. Me living here doesnt preclude my posting of this picture here from www.thoseshirts.com :
http://www.thoseshirts.com/images/catfrench-square.gif

I too am interested in where the images are found.

[Moparmike]

and you have he right to be offended about it. Now that you two's rights have been established, lets try to be less inflamatory. (You too Micro.)

[HBK]

I don't think our government is perfect. I know we have our share of problems (most of which I think are caused by the liberal policies introduced during eight years of Clinton as president). I do believe that our government deserves a certain amount of respect tempered with vigilant watchfulness. I think the key is the 2nd ammendment. When the government takes away your right of self-defense, as in the case of Great Britain and Australia, then it can no longer be trusted. We should channel or energies into making sure our government never takes that right from us.

[seeker_two]

Vic: MicroBalrog is a good guy who's bringing up some ponderable points in a way to engender discussion--which has succeeded. He's not one who deserves bulldogging....

I take offense to a foreigner making fun of our government.

Now there's this fellow named agricola...

[agricola]

seeker,

this thread should be saved, and produced the next time the "look whats happening in the UK" bleating-thread comes around, to demonstrate some peoples rampant hypocrisy.

[seeker_two]

agricola: As long as your nation is providing the material, I can't help but see the humor.

I'd just like to see you & Vic discuss a few things... :evil:

[Alan Smithiee]

I think it may be a bit easier for those outside the country to see an important point, the US govt is NOT the United States of America nor are they the People of the United States of America. in most cases it doesn't not even represent the majority of Americans. I see a message to the American People about what the Govt is doing.

and I guess only Americans should have Free Spech. not anyone from another country.

(not born here, just living here legaly)

[Orthonym]

I think you can find that poster and others like it on LizMichael.com. Interesting site by an interesting woman. She understands the 9th & 10th amendments as well as the 2nd.
I agree with the sentiment expressed in the poster, myself. The Reichsicherheithauptamt (AKA Homeland Security) is an ugly stain on the constitution. OTOH, as Christopher Hitchens has pointed out, most of the questionable arrests and detentions were done under authority of the Clinton anti-terrorist act from 1995 or so. Government attracts the sort of people who like to shove others around, be they Republican zoning Nazis or Democratic public-school Bolsheviks.

[Duncan Idaho]

DFTT

[KC]

"most of the questionable arrests and detentions were done under authority of the Clinton anti-terrorist act from 1995 or so"

Two wrongs don't make it right?

[Orthonym]

What does DFTT mean?

"Two wrongs don't make a right" ---- exactly my sentiments.

IMO, the best way to resist decentralized, small-unit attacks is decentralized, small-unit (unit of one) defense, not another huge govt. parasite agency. If you see someone who is SURELY about to set off a bomb, etc, by all means shoot him yourself. I believe the Common Law is pretty clear on this, by analogy with arson.

[spartacus2002]

Always amusing to see the outrage of those who confuse "love-of-govt" with "love-of-country."

I guess people aren't taught anymore that America was founded upon a healthy mistrust of centralized authority. Hell, even George Washington said that govt is like fire; a dangerous servant and a fearsome master.

I love my country, I respect our governmental structure, but I also call BS when the govt exceeds its authority. The govt belongs to us, not us to it.

[Iain]

Spartacus gets it.

Agricola has a point too.

[telomerase]

>The govt belongs to us, not us to it.

Hear, hear. Of course that means we're responsible for its many crimes, so we'd better do something to rein it in!

[Duncan Idaho]

What does DFTT mean?Don't Feed The Troll

[Quartus]

all of this stuff he's dumping on here today is just anti-American

The stuff that Congress and Bush (via Ashcroft) are dumping on America is what is anti-American.



Looks like micro undertsands our Founding Fathers better than a lot of Americans do.

[jimpeel]

Several here have asked where the images the threadparent posts come from. To find out where any posted image comes from, simply <rightclick> on the image and select <properties> from the popup menu. The source will be revealed. In the case of this thread, the first image came from

http://homepage.mac.com/leperous/.Pictures/blinders.jpg

[TearsOfRage]

Ths one seems partiicularly appropriate to the thread.

http://www.lizmichael.com/dontask.jpg

[Duncan Idaho]

Ths one seems partiicularly appropriate to the thread. (sic)Yeah, cause lord knows thousands of those poor pitiful critics of the government have been lined up and shot by Bush & Co. already.

Thanks for the reminder. :rolleyes: :uhoh: :barf:

[Quartus]

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Yuck. I smell boiled frogs! :barf:

[JitsuGuy]

I think a better name for Homeland Security is Homeland Tyranny. With each "terrorist" act comes more and more laws which infringe upon our rights. The quote, "Tell the people they're being attacked and they'll give up their rights willingly" comes to mind. The nature of government any government is to grow and grow, but somehow, many in America are fine with that, as long as they provide "secuirty." Well, not me. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and guess what, this applies to America as well. Not just Germany, not just North Korea, but here. We're not immune you know. And if I could, I'd spit on that picture that says we can't criticize our own government. That my friends is the absolute opposite of what this country is meant to be. It's obvious there is an agenda of the creator of this thread, it's to get people to think for themselves instead of CNN doing it for them. "Truth isn't in the news and news isn't in the truth."

Jits

[KC]

"Yeah, cause lord knows thousands of those poor pitiful critics of the government have been lined up and shot by Bush & Co. already."

What, are you waiting for the National Guard to be used to break up another student ralley? Wasn't the first Kent State incident enough for you?

[NIGHTWATCH]

I like the picture. :D It encourages one to think freely. Distrust Government expanding and to own Big scary looking Guns..... :uhoh: :( :) :D the spirit of "Thomas Jefferson" just passed through me as I spoke those words. ;)