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coloradokevin
April 30, 2008, 11:43 PM
Okay,

So I am sort of up and running as a newbie (and mildly incompetent) reloader here.

I'm trying to tumble brass now... I bought a tumbler, and media seperator, and cleared some space in the garage for the task. I am currently using untreated walnut media (err... bird cage litter).

Do you guys recommend a liquid brass polish or not?

My tumbler's owner's manual says that I should tumble once to clean first, then size and decap the brass, then tumble again to polish and remove case lube.

I know that commercially made reloading-specific polishes are made... But, can you guys recommend anything else that works just as well, at perhaps a lower price. I always like to know when something is available at Wally World that works just as well (particularly since I work strange hours, and they are open 24-7-364 :)

I've already been warned not to use Brasso due to the ammonia issue, which is sad since I have a healthy supply of brasso around here for my duty gear. Still, I'd love to hear any suggestions that you folks could provide on polish, or even tumbling in general!

As always, thanks for the great advice!

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Iron Sight
May 1, 2008, 12:00 AM
If you find something better than this let me/us know

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=816895

threefeathers
May 1, 2008, 12:47 AM
Mike Chasse at Thunder Mountain Custom Rifles makes a concoction that smells awful but is the absolute best cleaner, polisher I've ever used and I've been doing thos for 30 years.

gunman42782
May 1, 2008, 01:05 AM
I agree with Iron Sight, Flitz is the best stuff I ever used.

Uncle Chan
May 1, 2008, 01:15 AM
I use Nu-Finish liquid car wax/polish. A capful will do thousands of rounds. I've not found anything that works better.

evan price
May 1, 2008, 02:02 AM
I tumble in walnut now, and except for the dust, there's nothing better for shine. I tumble pistol rounds before processing, and not again. That way I don't have to clean the primer pockets.

A dash of Nufinish is all you need. Anything more is just extra.
Plus, some torn up used dryer sheets to trap dust.

hddeluxe
May 1, 2008, 02:08 AM
Walnut media (I also use the bird litter) and nu finish gets my vote.

coloradokevin
May 1, 2008, 02:39 AM
Thanks again for the great advice folks! I'm glad to hear the Nu Finish advice, because I know I have a bottle of that around here somewhere (and based on the last time that I washed my car, it it probably pretty full!)

I may have actually spoken too soon on this issue. I put 150 .223 casings in my tumbler right before I posted this message, and I just pulled them a couple of minutes ago. These were once-fired range pick-ups, and I tumbled them in untreated walnut. Despite the dirty appearance going in, they look better than a lot of my factory ammo now!

Thus, I'm impressed with tumbling so far!

Unfortunately, every time I think I have all of the tools to get up and running with the reloading hobby, I find something else I need... I apparently have military crimped brass, so now I'll have to get some sort of tool to remove the crimp (I didn't think this stuff had a crimp until now, when I googled the headstamp).

Guess I'll just lube/resize/decap in the mean time... and try to convince my wife that I need just one more tool :)

coyotehitman
May 1, 2008, 02:41 AM
I agree with Iron Sight, Flitz is the best stuff I ever used.

The best I have found, I buy a case at a time.

I tumble in plain walnut to clean, then use corncob and Flitz to polish.

flynlr
May 1, 2008, 03:35 AM
for polish corncob and flitz
I have used Nu-finish and cabelas polish but Flitz beats them hands down.

ricciardelli
May 1, 2008, 08:53 AM
I recommend both Lyman treated walnut media and Lyman treated corncob media.

1 hour in the walnut and then 1 hour in the corncob.

http://stevespages.com/cleancases.html

mkl
May 1, 2008, 12:32 PM
I've tried a bunch of different polishes, but so far Flitz gets my vote.

I use the cream, which also contains an anti-tarnish formula which is absent in the liquid version. From the Flitz web site re the liquid:

The same formula as the original creamy paste but in a more economical, easy to use liquid, without the Anti-Tarnish formula.

The paste is a pain to mix into the media however. It will ball up if you just squirt it in. I fill a measuring cup about half full of walnut/corncob, and then squirt in a teaspoon or so of Flitz. Using a spoon, I mash/stir the Flitz into the media. After a couple of minutes of this, it will be fairly well mixed. I then add the contents of the cup to my tumbler and run about ten minutes to distribute.

The paste version is more work, but you do get the tarnish protection additive.

A week ago, I found the two pound can of Flitz paste on Amazon.com selling for $29.00, which is about 60% of the regular price.

scrat
May 1, 2008, 01:06 PM
Nu finish and rice. during the summer my media was pretty much out. so i put in some rice. ended up filling 1/2 the tumbler with rice. it works so good. Just remember to put in some dryer sheets and cut up pieces of paper towel. they will absorb the dirt that gathers in the media, rice.

Otto
May 1, 2008, 01:49 PM
...can you guys recommend anything else that works just as well, at perhaps a lower price. I always like to know when something is available at Wally World that works just as well...

Nu Finish is a good polish, available at Wal Mart and far less expensive than Flitz.
I've used both extensively and could find little difference between the two.

mkonops
May 1, 2008, 02:00 PM
I use the Frankford Arsenal Brass Case Polish (http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=198878&t=11082005) with good results. I have recently switched to walnut media from corncob. I found the cob bits would always annoyingly wedge themselves into flash holes. Walnut media with a little polish has no such problems, cleans well, and virtually no dust.

kestak
May 1, 2008, 03:42 PM
Greetings,

I use nu-finish with corn cob too with good results...

BUT....

The cases will tarnish after a few month in storage. So, anyone knows what I could add to the mix to add an anti-tarnish ingredient to it?

Thank you

tding
May 1, 2008, 04:21 PM
Question to you guys using the Nu Finish - I get lots of "waxy" spots that I don't get with Flitz. What am I doing wrong?

kestak
May 1, 2008, 04:22 PM
Greetings,

- pour the corn cob
- pour a cup of nu-finish
- tumble with no case for 5 minutes
- put the paper towel cut in 2x2 inch with the brass
- tumble as desired.

Thank you

zxcvbob
May 1, 2008, 04:38 PM
Lyman "tufnut" (messy red stuff) is good, and it's a lot less messy if you cut it about 50% with untreated corncob or walnut media. And it's cheaper to use that way.

Lately I've been just using walnut Lizard Litter from the pet store, with a little TurtleWax Chrome Polish added.

kennedy
May 1, 2008, 09:03 PM
one half corn cob, one half walnut, one half cap of nu vinish. takes care of all my cleaning and polishing needs, don`t need to change media between cleaning and polishing, it does it all at the same time.

DUCKNDAWG
May 1, 2008, 09:44 PM
try fast orange hand cleaner

jcwit
May 1, 2008, 10:35 PM
Nu-Finish, corn cob, cut up paper towel--works great.

Flash!
May 1, 2008, 10:51 PM
how often do you replace the corn cob or walnut media in your tumbler???

ozshadow
May 5, 2008, 04:33 PM
One thing I have noticed is that my tumbler works faster and makes brass far shinier if it is very full. Not very full seems to take forever and is duller.

I use Pet store walnut with a dab of Nufinish every now and then.

kestak
May 5, 2008, 04:38 PM
Greetings,

OzShadow, I noticed the same thing. I put corn cob 3/4 of the container, then I fill up with cases. I shake for a little, then I put more cases, shake a little and put some more.

to answer a previous question, I change the media when it is very dark or when it takes a lot more time to clean the cases. Rule of thumb: 1 load of media cleans about 5k cases for me.

Thank you

lgbloader
May 5, 2008, 04:41 PM
It's funny 'cause for the longest time, I had a bottle of Nufinish in the laundry room and when my last bottle ran dry in the garage, I remembered about the one in the laundry room. I went to get it and my wife was in there and she said, "Oh good, you're gonna wax your car:)" and I said, "Nope, I just need to clean some brass". and she said :rolleyes:

Drinks all around...

rg1
May 5, 2008, 10:09 PM
Dillion Rapid Polish 290 is all I use with my corn cob media. Cuts vibrating time more than half. I hate walnut media as it cakes up on cases, especially inside the case neck, when removing case lube plus it's dusty. With the Dillion polish and corn cob I don't think you'll need walnut media.

madscientist69
May 6, 2008, 10:37 AM
I use some scratch out car polish that I found in the closet.

Works pretty good so far.

RustyFN
May 6, 2008, 12:35 PM
So I am sort of up and running as a newbie (and mildly incompetent) reloader here.Welcome

I'm trying to tumble brass now... I bought a tumbler, and media seperator, and cleared some space in the garage for the task. I am currently using untreated walnut media (err... bird cage litter).
I use the same media and it works great for me

Do you guys recommend a liquid brass polish or not?
Be very careful what you use. You want to avoid anything with ammonia, it will weaken the brass. I use Nu Finish car polish. You also don't want to use anything that is a wax.

My tumbler's owner's manual says that I should tumble once to clean first, then size and decap the brass, then tumble again to polish and remove case lube.
That's what I do and it works good for me. The second time you tumble to remove the lube you only need to tumble for 5 to 10 minutes. I only do that for rifle loading, I don't see a need to lube pistol cases.

I know that commercially made reloading-specific polishes are made... But, can you guys recommend anything else that works just as well, at perhaps a lower price. I always like to know when something is available at Wally World that works just as well (particularly since I work strange hours, and they are open 24-7-364
I use Nu Finish car polish. I add 1/2 to 3/4 cap full. Run for about 5 minutes to let it mix. Then I add the brass and a paper towel cut into 10 or 12 pieces to help keep the media clean and last longer.
http://www.hardwarestore.com/media/product/112282_front500.jpg

I get the Nu Finish at a bargain store for around $2. That is much cheaper than most other polishes you will find. I hear Flitz will get the brass shinier but the Nu Finish gets them shiny enough for me.
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7ce35b3127ccebdeb6929e02500000026100DZOGblm4Yo

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7ce35b3127ccebdeb690be00700000026100DZOGblm4Yo
Hope this helps.
Rusty

moooose102
May 6, 2008, 01:21 PM
try to convince my wife that I need just one more tool THERE IS NO SUCH THING!!! you'll be buying "just one more tool" for the rest of your life! just get used to it!!!!!

Synergy
May 6, 2008, 01:31 PM
http://wickedproducts.com/wickedshop/ProdImages/metallg.jpg
I use white rice, mix in a few squirts of this: let it mix with the rice then add my brass. I found my rice lasts longer if I tumble first with rice/wicked then to remove any residue and give a high polished shine I tumble in plain rice.

I can run 500-700 .45 cases with Wicked polish before changing the rice. I just use the old plain 2nd batch of rice for the Wicked and start a new tub of fresh rice.

Plus rice is available anywhere and still very cheap. Wicked does not contain any ammonia.

http://wickedproducts.com/wickedshop/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=23

jcwit
May 6, 2008, 02:59 PM
Try some used Fabric soffener sheets or a paper towel cut up in 1 to 2 in pieces. Polishing 500 to 700 cases and then changing? Man I'd be changing all the time, thats one days shooting and I shoot 2 to 3 times a week.

RustyFN
May 6, 2008, 06:29 PM
I use white rice, mix in a few squirts of this: let it mix with the rice then add my brass. I found my rice lasts longer if I tumble first with rice/wicked then to remove any residue and give a high polished shine I tumble in plain rice.

I can run 500-700 .45 cases with Wicked polish before changing the rice. I just use the old plain 2nd batch of rice for the Wicked and start a new tub of fresh rice.
Thanks for the info, I always wondered how good the rice worked. Too bad it doesn't last longer. I buy crushed walnut at WalMart 7# for $3 and change. The first batch lasted me a year and cleaned around 10,000 to 12,000 cases.
Rusty

jagugator
May 7, 2008, 03:07 AM
Half walnut, half corn cob (both pet store bought) a couple cap fulls of dillon polish, although I think I am going to try Flitz, and a strip of dryer sheet. Man do they come out nice.

Rico567
May 7, 2008, 06:23 AM
I'm using exclusively corn cob media now. For years I used walnut to get the dirt off, followed by corn cob with polish to put that "factory" shine on them. Now I"m less picky; I use the corn cob media from Pet Smart. Sold as bedding it's a lot cheaper than the same stuff sold as polishing media. It's more uneven in size, but my Frankford Arsenal sifter from Midway gets it our anyway. For polish I just use the cheap Turtle Wax polish from Auto Zone. The dryer sheet dodge works well to absorb the dirt from the media.

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