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StrawHat
May 3, 2008, 07:57 AM
Is there a schematic that can be posted so when we refer to parts of revolvers (or rifle locks) we all can use or at least have access to similar terminology?

What I call a cylinder arbor, you might call a cylinder pin, and someone else might call a "cylinder thingy".

It might help lessen confusion, especially as often we get threads about ...How do I fix...

Just a thought.

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scrat
May 3, 2008, 10:06 AM
like this.

oh GARY

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q77/scratm3/Colt1851-diag.gif
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q77/scratm3/Colt1851-diag2.gif

mykeal
May 3, 2008, 10:46 AM
Well, almost.

That diagram calls the 'cylinder thingy' a 'frame'. Or more accurately doesn't name it at all.

This is a great starting point, however. If I can get some time during one of the late night Stanley cup games I'll take a shot at photoshopping it to add some more info. If nothing else it'll give us something else to flame - I'm sure there will be plenty of dissension about some of the names I use, at least from one person.

pohill
May 3, 2008, 02:29 PM
#7 above is listed as a frame, and #6 as a cylinder. Correct?

Niner
May 3, 2008, 03:05 PM
If you want to see one of them listed as such a Remington would be the one to show.

StrawHat
May 3, 2008, 03:54 PM
I wasn't intending a "one photo fits all" scenario.

If the situation calls for a Remington to be pictured, include it.

I was hoping for a sticky of a parts legend and sketch so all could see what was being talked about.

Getting folks to use it might be a different story.

dwave
May 3, 2008, 04:08 PM
Colt

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=77637&stc=1&d=1209845069

1 Frame Assembly
2 Hammer Assembly
3 Barrel
4 Wedge Assembly
5 Cylinder Assembly
6 Loading Lever Latch
7 Hand Assembly
8 Backstrap
9 Barrel Stud
10 Trigger
11 Grip
12 Bolt
13 Loading Lever
14 Nipple
15 Sight
16 Loading Lever Latch Spring
17 Wedge Spring
19 Trigger Bolt Spring
20 Mainspring
21 Base Pin
22 Hand Pin
23 Barrel Pin
24 Plunger
25 Roller
26 Triggerguard
27 Loading Lever Latch Pin
29 Wedge Pin
30 Roller Pin
31 Front Triggerguard Screw
32 Rear Backstrap Screw
33 Wedge Screw
34 Plunger Screw
35 Trigger Bolt Spring Screw
36 Main Spring Screw
37 Hammer Screw
38 Trigger Screw
39 Loading Lever Screw
40 Bolt Screw
41 Cylinder Pin

dwave
May 3, 2008, 04:09 PM
Remingtons

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=77639&stc=1&d=1209845346

1 1 Frame
2 1 Hammer
3 1 Barrel
5 1 Cylinder
6 1 Loading Lever Latch
7 1 Hand Assembly
9 1 Barrel Stud
10 1 Trigger
12 1 Bolt
13 1 Loading Lever
14 6 Nipple
15 1 Sight
16 1 Loading Lever Latch Spring
18 1 Hand Spring
19 1 Trigger Bolt Spring
20 1 Mainspring
21 1 Base Pin
24 1 Plunger
25 1 Roller
26 1 Triggerguard
27 1 Loading Lever Latch Pin
30 1 Roller Pin
31 1 Front Triggerguard Screw
35 1 Trigger Bolt Spring Screw
37 1 Hammer Screw
38 1 Trigger Screw
39 1 Loading Lever Screw
43 1 Right Grip Nut
44 1 Left Grip Nut
45 1 Right Grip Assembly
46 1 Left Grip Assembly
47 1 Link
49 1 Link Pin
50 1 Plunger Pin
51 1 Grip Pin
52 1 Hand Screw
53 1 Main Spring Screw
54 1 Grip Screw

dwave
May 3, 2008, 04:11 PM
Here is a thread started for what you are asking. If you mods would like to sticky, that is up to them.

Gun Diagrams (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=360887)

JayC
May 3, 2008, 05:53 PM
A good site for diagrams of various models is www.vtigunparts.com. It covers several different models, from three or four original makers.

sundance44s
May 3, 2008, 06:41 PM
Colt calls that thingy a Base pin ..and he doesn`t mention wads or crisco ..LOL http://i27.tinypic.com/11m73eu.jpg

scrat
May 3, 2008, 08:40 PM
he may call it a base pin but its part of the frame. Colts original design was based on 30 pieces not 31.

pohill
May 3, 2008, 10:35 PM
I always knew the arbor/cylinder pin to be part of the frame.
It'd be interesting to list all the different names for the same part; pawls, sears, lugs, studs, arbors, keys, etc.
I think the Paterson has 17 more parts than (for example) the Walker.

scrat
May 3, 2008, 10:39 PM
Ya but you cant count the chewing gum to keep it together POHILL.



Ok bad joke. Id love to have a paterson.

theotherwaldo
May 3, 2008, 10:43 PM
Y'all are over-generalizing. In a Paterson, for example, part no. 7 in that diagram would be made from at least nine parts.

Generic parts lists don't work well.

pohill
May 3, 2008, 10:49 PM
Yeah, but have you ever tried to put a Paterson back together? I have one and those 17 extra parts seem like 170. Gum isn't a bad idea, or an extra hand (human hand).
I got the "17 extra parts" info from a book but I can't remember which one.

theotherwaldo
May 3, 2008, 11:02 PM
Nope, never tried to fix a Paterson. Researched 'em, though, when I thought about taking apart a Peterson relic I'd dug up. One look at the plans disabused me of that idea. I donated it to the local historical society instead.

4v50 Gary
May 6, 2008, 07:37 PM
Good question. Post your schematics here and I'll add this to the sticky thread on essential knowledge.

dwave
May 6, 2008, 08:07 PM
Hey Gary, I started a thread for the gun diagrams. I already added 2, the 1851 navy and the 1858 Remington.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=360887

Maybe you could merge the threads?

4v50 Gary
May 6, 2008, 08:50 PM
Will do & thanks!:)

wacarney29
September 8, 2008, 11:03 PM
Does anyone know who may sale replacement frames?

Smokin_Gun
September 9, 2008, 12:07 AM
This is a Test Name that Rev and Name the parts ... honor system write the answers at home and grade yourself...Post your persentile on both Revs.

http://i37.tinypic.com/nwlx7a.jpg
http://i34.tinypic.com/2cpvyas.jpg


Pohill don't offer answers for money:evil:

SG

Smokin_Gun
September 9, 2008, 12:17 AM
I was hoping for a sticky of a parts legend and sketch so all could see what was being talked about.

Strawhat, I think this is Mec's diagram, is this what you meant?
http://i34.tinypic.com/23t1jzd.jpg

SG

sundance44s
September 9, 2008, 06:52 AM
Wacarney ..the only place I know of that list frames for sale is Taylors ...try here ..they have frames listed with prices ..http://www.taylorsfirearms.com/products/accessories.tpl

Voodoochile
September 9, 2008, 08:09 AM
This is a Test Name that Rev and Name the parts ... honor system write the answers at home and grade yourself...Post your persentile on both Revs.
http://i37.tinypic.com/nwlx7a.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/2cpvyas.jpg

Pohill don't offer answers for money

SG

First one is a Colt Paterson & the second one is a Ruger Old Army made prior to 1977.

Paterson:
1 = Frame
2 = hammer
3 = barrel
4 = wedge
5= cylinder
7 = hand
8 = back strap
10= trigger
11 = grip
I'll have to get to the rest, gotta get back to work.

StrawHat
September 9, 2008, 11:39 AM
Smoking Gun,

The diagrams in Posts 2, 7, & 8 are more what I was asking.

Just a good diagram with a parts legend.

If folks want to drag up diagrams for all the different revolver, okay but for Colts, one for the Paterson, one for the Walker, one for the Dragoon (maybe) should be all you would need. I believe after the Dragoons, the schematic would be the same as subsequent models were based on the Dragoon mechanism with size being altered.

Naturally, Remingtons should also be represented.

And any other C&B as thought appropriate.

Just something to refer to when trying to describe something or when reading a description.

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