[scrat]

Man i was busy. Did make it out to the range. Took 4 .44cals and a 22lr. Ruger mark II. for the younger one.
Must have shot about 200 .44. First to go out yep mr. WALKER. Second to go out 1861 Army. Amazingly ended the day shooting the heck out of my ASM 1851 and my 1851 Pietta. Both just kept on working. End the end We started to see signs of fouling in the ASM. So it looks like the Pietta wins the day. Never fouled once kept shooting till the end. Problem was we ran out of ammo for the 22.

Once at home looks like a spent cap found its way into the works AGAIN in Mr. WALKER. So the hammer was not hitting hard enough on the caps. Looking at the WALKER really good. It appears i am in need of another wedge and a main spring. As i can see some cracks appearing towards the main bend. NOT GOOD. the 1861 Well seemed like the main bolt was rather fouled and was just in need of a good cleaning. The 1851's though. Wow they just kept shooting i was using 24 grains of GOEX. Forgot to take the home made stuff.

Here are some pics kinda shotty though using my cell.

[scrat]

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And out for the drive home.

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By the way those are my two boys Anthony 15, Alex 9. Anthony can shoot like crazy.

[pohill]

The Mass 5th Battery had a live cannon shoot in southern NH today. I got there just as it ended. But I got to shoot an original 1861 Springfield and a replica Enfield. That Springfield is amazing considering its age. Also fired a Lyman Remington NMA .44. Nice gun.
As far as mainsprings - I read that if you scratch a mainspring it will create a weak spot that will cause the mainspring to break sooner than later.
Good to see the kids shooting. Do they like the BP guns? My son has a Hawkins .50.

[scrat]

heck ya. they love them. My older son loves to get to the range as soon as it opens or before it opens. So he can shoot the WALKER. Loves to hear peoples car alarms go off. We always laugh. A car alarm at an out door shooting range. My 50 caliber is always fun to shoot too. Anthony has shot steel with that rifle at over 200yards iron sights. Way better than me. I probably could do that too about 20 years ago.

[scrat]

Pohil man i would have loved to do what you did today. did you get any pictures of those guns. Wow out here in KALIFORNIA we would never see anything like that. Unless your watching it on TV.

[pohill]

When my daughter was 18 a few years ago we went to the range with the 1860 .44. She shoots well, and she took one target home in which she got a bullseye, signed the target, dated it and hung it on the refrigerator just to bust my chops. One day my friend, a Korean War veteran, and his wife were over. His wife looked at the target on the refrig and asked me about it. I told her the story of how my daughter got a bullseye and was showing it off. Then she said to me, "Oh my, what did it do to the refrigerator?" My friend rolled his eyes and walked away.

[scrat]

hahahahahaha. omg I dont know if i could have looked her in the eyes again. Would have fallen down with laughter.

[pohill]

This is a pic of the cannon fire from last year (same crew, same cannon)
http://i32.tinypic.com/34g3jie.jpg

This is the original Springfield that I fired today.
http://i29.tinypic.com/2elgt9s.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/29mm6ti.jpg

[scrat]

Wow nice pics that rifle looks great. Very good condition.

[pohill]

The owner of the Springfield was shooting it at 50 FEET. I said for cripes sake you can stab someone with the bayonet at 50 feet. It was shooting very high, so I tried it at 50 yards and it was right on. He's a history teacher and we dug some of the Minnie balls out of the dirt berm so he could show his students. It's pretty cool to see these guys in authentic Union uniforms (sorry, Rebs).

[Pulp]

I got to try out my homemade BP at a real Cowboy Action Match. It worked like a charm. First CAS match I've been to in WAY TOO LONG. I only used the homemade in my capnball revolvers. The rifle (.44-40) was loaded with Goex and the shotgun with a light load of Pyrodex RS. The shotgun is an old 10 gauge Albert Greener I got for Christmas from my brother.

Here's a video of one of the stages:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pulkBJypPVY

[TexasBen317]

Man,, you all had all the fun today,, but I did carry when I mowed the first of the yard.. Seems the neighbor killed Three water mocasions in his yard this week.. Dumb butt, probably were "chicken snakes" which I don't mind..

didn't want any surprises if I stepped off the tractor out there.:what:

[pohill]

CAS looks like fun. But I gotta ask - isn't that how you guys in OK dress all the time? haha

[scrat]

hahahah good one pohill. I wish we had that out here. Closest thing is about 3 hours away.

[pohill]

It's funny but you think that guns are frowned on in the east but I belong to two gun clubs within 7 miles of my house, and there's probably another 10 or so within 15 miles. CAS or SASS (not sure of the difference) is pretty big out here.

[bigbadgun]

All this talk of shooting and here I am with a bumb foot for another 6 weeks. This sucks I am just now able to get around with a cane. After I got back from Az I got up at 3am and was heading down stairs and stubbed my big toe on the banister. By the time I got up in the morning I couldnt walk. Went to the doc and last week they operated on my foot now I have a plate and 2 screws holding my toe in place I guess I shattered the bone that holds it to the foot. Which reminds me does anybody know where I can buy some steel toed slippers.

[Pulp]

Sorry to disappoint you Pohill, but when I'm not shooting I wear my pants on the outside of my boots.

CAS and SASS are not the same, but then again they are. SASS (Single Action Shooters Society) is a governing body. CAS(Cowboy Action Shooting) is dressing up like a cowboy and shooting. SASS owns a trademark on CAS, but you don't have to belong to SASS to CAS. Other governing bodies are NCOWS (National Coalition of Western Shooters), W3G (Western 3 Gun) and there's another one I can't think of right off. SASS is biggest, NCOWS is the strictest on dress and firearms,
W3G is the newest.

[huli]

My saturday went well,, Pics to followhttp://http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/huli35rem/dad100.jpghttp://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/huli35rem/dad099.jpg Targets were at 26 YDS Bullets were from Dithsoer A member here, Pyrodex P powder Ox wads

[grimjaw]

Speaking for those of us who work weekend shifts (24 out of 48 hours of it, too): we envy and despise you for your wonderful day of shooting. Ptooi! ;)

jm

[scrat]

ya well i know how that is. Just 1 day off is all i get this week. Going to work in a few hours.

[oneshooter]

I went to work..................all day........................14hrs..................



BUMMER!!!!!!!!!!!!


Oneshooter
Livin in Texas

[Pulp]

Grimshaw, Scrat and Oneshooter, I'm on 12 hour rotating shifts too. This happened to be my long weekend. Off from Thursday night till the Friday night of next week.
That long week-end is about the only thing good you can say about 12 hour shifts. Well that, and if there is no overtime scheduled we only work 14 out of every 28 days.

[StrawHat]

Scrat,

you mentioned shooting four 44 but then mentioned an 1861 and an 1851, I know they have bastardized the 1851 but have they done the same to the 1861???

[pohill]

.44 caliber roundball after hitting a metal plate at 100 yards fired from a Walker (50 grs BP) on Sunday.
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[oneshooter]

Pulp, I am not on a rotating shift. We are behind in production and I went in to help with the weld out. Lost a couple of welders last week and it really hurt production!!

Oneshooter
Livin in Texas

[scrat]

Straw hat nope the 1861 came in a 44. its and 1861 Army. Good shooter usually. Kinda odd though that the pietta outlasted all of them.

[Calibre44]

CAS is quite popular over here too. The British Western Shooting Society (BWSS) was set up in the UK in 1994 based on the successful Single Action Shooting Society (SASS) in the States. It grew in popularity and had a strong following before handguns were banned.

When that happened many CAS shooters simply gave up all together, while others changed to another form of shooting: but despite dwindling numbers and a lack of organised competitions, a few die-hards continued using BP Pistols to keep the sport alive. Today there are a number of clubs that hold regular shoots which are enjoyed by all those concerned.

Click here (http://www.bwss.org.uk/)to see the BWSS website – there is a photo gallery that may interest you.

Here is a chap enjoying a shoot somewhere in the UK – click here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdvuc_q6O2Q)

Scrat: great pics of your lads having a great day

[RoaringBull]

I spent my Sat with about 198 other folks at a Mission Outdoors event. Most of them had never shot a bp rifle before. All I had was my .50 cal Kentucky. I bet I loaded that thing 100 times. It was cool seeing the looks on people's faces when the flint struck and there was that tiny delay in the rifle firing. Course with the wind blowing about 15-20 mph, and me without any spare flints, we had a few problems gettng it to fire. Even had a few teenage girls give it a try after I assured them I was only loading it with 50 grains of powder.

My wife even said that I needed to show her how to load, to help me out. Maybe I can get her to shooting too. If I just had 3 or 4 more rifles I could keep the line moving faster!

[McCall911]

How was your Saturday

Busy as a one-legged man in a butt-kicking contest with "honey-do" jobs...

:cuss:

But next weekend is mine! I have some shootin' to catch up on!

:cool:

[mykeal]

Straw Hat and Scrat -

The Blue Book of Modern Black Powder Arms does list a .44 cal 1861 Navy made by - and since discontinued - Pietta. There is no information on number or dates of manufacture.

The listing calls the gun a .44 cal 1861 Navy, rather than an 1861 Army. As with the .44 cal 1851 Navy, the gun has no historical meaning.

[Voodoochile]

A bud & I went to the IWLA to shoot a few.
I took my old CVA Bobcat .50cal, 5.5" barreled Pietta 1858 .44cal & he brought his Traditions Yukon .50cal & 38/44 Nagant 7.62X54mm.

I wanted to see what my Bobcat would do with PRB since it had been 10 years since I had it "traded Logan the Yukon for my ole .50" & I just dreamed up a charge of 80gr. 777fffg with a .490 ball with .15 lubed patch & it worked like a charm at 50 yards hitting just shy of dead center of the paper plate benched & eventually off hand shooting was producing good groups "1.5" was my best" with 90gr. 777fffg at 50 yards & at 100 yards I was doing OK "could be better but the sights are old style & I refuse to change them out & besides I don't plan to take a Deer much past 75 yards any way with it."

Logan & his Yukon using 3 30gr. 777 pelets & a saboted .44cal 240gr. had a hard time grouping at 50 yards & I had to help get him ligned up to hit center of the plate at 50 yards but with a few more outings like this I think I can have him shooting good to 100 yards.. :D
As far as the Mosin Nagant, he never cleaned the creosote out of it from when he bought it at Gander Mountain 6 months ago, so after I cleaned it & noticed that it needed tightening I was able to hit pretty good "2.5" groups average at 50 yards, this thing needs some TLC to get her laying tacks" with it using winchester factory ammo but Logan was not as good but is a work in progress "he doesn't shoot even half as much as I do so he sortof needs a little instruction."

My 1858 was just to have fun on some cans which it is best at but Logan was supprised a little at the recoil of her but understood when I told him that I only load 35gr. FFFG Goex & a .457 143gr. ball & nothing less..

All in all our shooting was fun & informative "for Logan"

After we got back to my home we locked up the guns in my safe so we can watch Iron Man, cool movie:D
Clean up of the guns was ofcorse when we got back to my house for a few beers & some Nice Ribeyes...;)

[StrawHat]

The Blue Book of Modern Black Powder Arms does list a .44 cal 1861 Navy

Is this not merely an 1860 that has been mis-named?

Or maybe I should ask, how is it different from the 1860? I am often behind

Gotta love the italians, they don't care about our history any more than most US students!

[mykeal]

Is this not merely an 1860 that has been mis-named? Or maybe I should ask, how is it different from the 1860?

Maybe. The Pietta 1860 Army has a rebated cylinder and weighs more. Both have a 7 1/2" barrel, however, so the difference in weight is probably in the frame. The original 1860 Army frame and grip size were larger than the original 1861 Navy, I believe. But then, Pietta is obviously not known for putting historical accuracy above manufacturing expediency, so maybe there is no real difference. I don't have an 1861 .44 cal Navy, so I can't tell for sure. All I know is what I read.