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dagger dog
May 4, 2008, 02:16 PM
Just another brain fart, after reading a nother post.

How many out there reload with a single stage only?

I've been at it seriously with a single stage since '99 and was fooling around with a Lee Loader back in the mid '80's. Right now I reload for 4 rifles 3 handguns, and will most likley start shotshell soon.

One of the reasons I've stuck with single stage,(I own 2 presses) is accuracy on the rifles, can't shoot a handgun worth a crap, and economy dosen't equate any more,plus I don't think I'm "ready" for progressive yet. The biggest factor in myself using a single stage is saftey, I'm having more and more SENIOR moments and I just think for me the single stage is safer!

How about y'all whats your reasons?

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swiss7.5
May 4, 2008, 02:22 PM
Single only here

WayneConrad
May 4, 2008, 02:36 PM
Single stage here. I don't reload to save time. It's a form of meditation, in a way, so how quick it goes doesn't matter too much.

BsChoy
May 4, 2008, 02:44 PM
single only....i just got a lee pro auto disk powder measure and it has speeded the loading process for pistol up considerably

qajaq59
May 4, 2008, 03:11 PM
I do. I'm in no hurry. All I shoot are 30 cal rifles and I only need a 100-150 rounds a week. .

Mt Shooter
May 4, 2008, 03:22 PM
I have Three, a single, progressive, and a shot shell

lev83
May 4, 2008, 03:28 PM
The RCBS RockChucker has served me well. I have no intrest and no plans to move to a progressive.

Afy
May 4, 2008, 03:41 PM
I use a single stage... and am quite sure if I used anything else I would need to use my medical insurance and the wonderful medicare system in France.

I amange to do quite a few stupid things without the aid of automation...

Walkalong
May 4, 2008, 08:35 PM
I reloaded with a single stage for a while, but quickly decided it was too slow and too much work. :)

ricciardelli
May 4, 2008, 08:51 PM
For metallic cartridges I use a couple of different RCBS single-stage presses. for shotgun I use MEC progressives.

Bozo
May 4, 2008, 08:57 PM
I have used a RCBS press, single stage since 1973.

Seafarer12
May 4, 2008, 09:14 PM
I only load with a single stage. I have 2 RCBS presses and since moving back into an apartment have gotten a lee handpress. I don't shoot a whole lot so a single stage keeps me in ammo. I reloaded about 250 rounds this weekend.

Der Verge
May 4, 2008, 09:45 PM
I have one of each. I only use the Dillon when loading for handgun. To be honest though, I don't shoot handgun enough to reload for it. Oh well. I use the single stage on my rifle cartriges. I enjoy taking my time with my recipes for my rifle food, so I stay with the single stage.

wrench
May 4, 2008, 09:46 PM
I reload rifle calibers, and then started reloading 9mm and .45ACP on a rockchucker single stage. Worked fine, but boy, that pistol ammo moved
s-l-o-w.
Picked up a used Lee classic turret, and it is the bomb for pistol ammo.
I still reload the rifle rounds on the rockchucker, but the Lee really gave me some speed for pistol, at a tiny fraction of the price of a progressive.

lgbloader
May 4, 2008, 09:58 PM
I, too, sometimes feel the need to enter the world of meditation by way of handloading. At these times, i reach into the clean/ready box of 38 spcl brass and whack out about 10 - 20 rounds of this caliber on a Lee Classic Loader & hammer. I did this last week as a matter of fact.

However, I do have a couple of Dillons and a Redding Turret, and a Lee Classic Cast. I love to reload but I love to shoot more, so sometimes I like to load a few hundred of 9mm or 45acp and get cleaned up and get out of the Cave, other times, I could load all night, cranking out the rounds and downing the Folgers...

As long as you keep your wits about you and go slow, paying careful attention to detail, you can be safe with progressive.

By the way, I had a good day at the range and I hope everyone had at least one good one this weekend, too.:cool:

33rowdy
May 4, 2008, 10:45 PM
I'm in the "One At A Time" club too. Around 8 years ago, my great Uncle and I were shooting shoot. So I asked him to reload some 12 Ga for me. So He did a few. A few months later I came home from work and had boxes of what looked like JUNK on the door step. A MEC 600 Jr, balance beam scales, and alot more that junk. I started to learn the MEC Jr. That was easy. But I looked at the old cast iron rifle press...Junk! But I mounted it up on a school desk that I bought at a garage sale tried it. I'm still useing it now. My one and only rifle press.
I'm guessing that this press goes back to around 1960's. On the left hand side is casted;
Professional
Model "C"
Bystrom Bros
Minneapolis Minn.

I still have his old books, manuals, and a lot more of the copyrights go back to the 1960's.

Anyone here know anything about a "Bystrom"?

WSM MAGNUM
May 4, 2008, 11:03 PM
I use my single stage press for when I test new loads. I load up 10 rounds each if I`m using different powders or bullets for a caliber. When I find the best load I`ll then start mass loading on the progressive if it is a handgun load. I`ll always use the single stage for rifle loads.
If you shoot hundreds or thousands of handgun calibers, like I do, there ain`t no way I`m gonna use a single stage. :rolleyes: Using a progressive will crank out loads just as accurate as a single stage can.
I also have a shotgun reloader that is a single stage. Might go to a progressive shotshell reloader one of these days.

kelbro
May 4, 2008, 11:53 PM
Been loading single stage on the same RCBS press since 1976. Never been in THAT big of a hurry.

GRIZ22
May 4, 2008, 11:56 PM
I have used a RCBS press, single stage since 1973.

Me too. I also have a turret but I use it as a single stage.

Most of the misfires, bad ammo, etc you see mentioned on this forum were loaded with a progressive. Just pull the handle 50 times and you have a box of ammo.

A progressive doesn't allow me the quality control I like.

Slow. Yes but I don't have problems with my ammo.

jenrob
May 5, 2008, 01:55 AM
I shoot around 600rnds of 45acp 150rnds of 22-250 50rnds of 7wsm 300rnds of 40S&W and 200rnds of 357 out of these last month. The 45acp & 40S&W was the only thing loaded on a progrssive and some of them were loaded on a single stage. I enojoy shooting but enjoy the reloading part as well.

I load a lot on the single stage so as I can just sit back and relax size a few go look at the clouds go by size a few more whatch the sun set.

I use the progressive to load when I plan on shooting a lot or if a friend needs to load up a 1000rnds or so.

I can load 50rnds in about 45mins on a single stage if I keep real busy at it. useally take about 1.5hrs for 50

On the progressive I timed out 200rnds and figured out to around 883rnds an hr. I only did this for 200rnds and will probably never do it that fast again.

I run around 4-500rnds an hr. on a prog. and run out of bullets. This leave me with yard work so I save back and use the single stage.

At 4-500rnds an hr I can watch what I am doing pretty well along with a powder check die and attention. I have no problems with a prog. press, but if I could only have one it would be the single stage.

Schleprok62
May 5, 2008, 03:56 AM
Single here, 2 of them... I like handling each round and inspecting it through each stage of the process... and, it's one of those things that I can do at my own pace...

Urbana John
May 5, 2008, 04:45 AM
Single stage "Rocker" here----I just finished 1051 rds. of military 308's and 1000 rds of military 223's. start to finish, about two weeks-------took forever!!!

Three weeks ago, I loaded 1750 rounds of 9's and 40's, evenings and the weekend.

UJ

DWARREN123
May 5, 2008, 05:59 AM
Single stage, I only do 40 S&W. Lets me do a safety check at each step very easily. Lee Anniversary Kit.

BeJaRa
May 5, 2008, 12:27 PM
I only use a single, I don't have the money to feed a progressive, plus it makes me appreciate the effort every time I pull the trigger which makes me try to improve everytime I shoot instead of just getting trigger time and squeezing off rounds, just because someone shoots 1,000rds doesn't mean they got any better at the art of shooting rifle/pistol.

Schleprok62
May 5, 2008, 01:11 PM
Bejara: I'm going to have to agree with you... :) After reading your post, I got thinking, and that's a lot how I think also...

:)

Griz44
May 5, 2008, 02:03 PM
Perspectives are always interesting. Points on both sides are very valid. I chose a progressive (well, one of the reasons) because I read a lot of opinions and the auto rotate feature AWAY from the powder dump seems a very effective way to NOT double charge. Like everyone else here, I take my time and check all the steps. I installed some tiny white LED lights on my press, (I think that idea came from Shadow Dog). Walgreens has a book reader LED that you can pick up for $3.00 a pair. I used hot glue to mount them. One LED resides over the primer trough and the other over the bullet seating station. On each downstroke I watch the primer feed, it has a window that you can see to verify a primer has been fed, and take a peek down the case waiting at the bullet seater. After a few strokes, you can tell at a glance that the powder has dropped, and the quantity looks right. I pull one off every couple of dozen and weigh it, and have never had a light or heavy one except when I ran out of powder in the dispensor hopper once. The visual check caught it immediately. After a few dozen rounds, it becomes second nature to watch those two items and is no hassle at all. It takes less than 12 or 15 minutes to crank out a hundred rounds being very careful and checking every round. For rifle, I use the progressive but in semi-single stage mode. (I run them through one at a time) Either way, for me reloading is not as much of an economic issue as a quality and sense of self satisfaction issue, knowing that I did it and that it is as near perfect as possible. I have given up watching the trash on TV and spend a lot of time tinkering in the gun shop, (once called a den by my wife) reloading, reading or cleaning my guns. I shoot a few hundred rounds a week of .45 acp, .223 and 30-06. Mostly .45 acp. I have several othe calibers, but don't shoot them much. For them I use a Lee handloader since I don't have shellplates for them to fit the progressive yet.

lgbloader
May 5, 2008, 04:39 PM
I have said this before...
'I could do without all my presses except one, my single stage.'

Drinks all around.

digger658
May 5, 2008, 10:37 PM
I have 3 singles setup.

YodaVader
May 5, 2008, 10:56 PM
For my match bullet .223 loads it is single stage. For my handgun calibers I use my Dillon progressive. Although I resize a lot of my handgun brass in the single stage.

rg1
May 5, 2008, 11:01 PM
Forster Co-Ax, RCBS Big Max, RockChucker, AmmoMaster 50, all single stage for me. I still drive nails with a hammer rather than a nail gun. I do several inspection steps during the process, that a progressive just can't fit into my reloading. Plus I can't imagine lubing rifle cases and cycling them thru the entire process coming out loaded with lube still on the loaded round. Then tumbling loaded rounds later, getting media and dust stuck in the case mouth area. I appreciate that some shoot a LOT more than me and a progressive is the only way to go. Single stage press only for me though. I do use 2 presses with different operations for each press that is handy when loading pistol rounds.

Eb1
May 5, 2008, 11:13 PM
Lee Hand Press here.

Griz44
May 5, 2008, 11:21 PM
Yoda, do you full length re-size or just neck size?

tasco 74
May 5, 2008, 11:51 PM
i load from two single stage presses too.. i have a lee reloader press and my old bair cast c-press(kind of an antique).... but i use a lee speed die with an extra die body and parts so i can load off both presses at the same time... works great! my reloading is also kind of a hobby to use up some time so i'm not in any kind of hurry either.......

SSN Vet
May 6, 2008, 12:11 AM
I load one at a time....

one cartridge, from clean brass to crimped bullet.....one by one.....and I inspect that one cartridge several times before it's done....usually measuring COAL every time.

I don't start the next one, untill the one I'm working on is done. To me, this is loading one at a time....accomplished on an auto-indexing turret press.

What you single stage guys are describing sounds a lot more like loading 50 at a time to me.....:neener:

with "several" inspections out of the batch.

Flash!
May 6, 2008, 12:14 AM
RCBS Rockchucker.... I like the single stage press because I can check and double check every step of the process..... my main double check is that I want to look into each and every case to see that the correct amount of powder was dispensed.....

ADKWOODSMAN
May 7, 2008, 08:10 PM
Rock Chucker, RCBS Jr., (just purchased a Square Deal B) MEC for 12,20,28.

ar10
May 7, 2008, 09:49 PM
I am still pretty new at it but after looking at the Dillion 550 I realized I had much more time than money. (Hornady single stage on sale from Cabballa's).

inserthumorhere
May 7, 2008, 10:07 PM
I'm a single stage loader too. I went with a turret to keep from having to change out the dies...like to keep everything consistent. I could go progressive with it but I don't see any point. But then, I only load rifle...for now.

P5 Guy
May 7, 2008, 10:16 PM
I bought a progressive press first off and never was able to warm up to it. So, I sold it to a fiend and used the money to buy a single stage press. Now I've put together more ammo "one at a time" than I ever did with the progressive. I have more fun too.

jhansman
May 8, 2008, 01:11 AM
My Lee Challenger does it slow, but does it well. I am, however, beginning to think about a turret for mass .223 loading.

deadhawg
May 8, 2008, 01:41 AM
Single stage only here. I reload in my spare time and I'm never in a hurry. I keep enough loaded ammo around for several trips to the range, besides my SHTF stash. Also, using a single stage press gives me a chance to handle and inspect every case several times, and reduces the chance of a double charge or no charge in a case. I've loaded many thousands of rounds this way, and I see no reason to change now.

Ron

Bullet
May 8, 2008, 02:01 AM
I started with one Rock Chucker and then bought a progressive, sold the progressive and bought another Rock Chucker. I now have two Rock Chuckers. I get my brass all ready ahead of time so then all I have to do is powder and seat and sometimes crimp (depending on what Iím loading). I use the first press to seat with and the second to crimp. Once I have the brass prepped the rest goes pretty fast except for some of my rifle cartridges that I dribble. I believe if you want to load fast a progressive is better but I have time to do each step one at a time. I find reloading fun and relaxing (takes my mind off of everything else). Besides Iím KING of my basement (guess you can tell Iím married).

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