[Mot45acp]

I recently decided on a new knife (Kershaw Blur S30V plain edge), I could only find the model I wanted online thanks to members here. Well the website had free shipping over $125. So instead of paying the $6 shipping on a $75 knife I got a $50 Sypderco Centofante III.:uhoh:

I get the dreaded "out of stock/on backorder" e mail. So I pop into Academy and purchase a Kershaw Storm ($35) to quell the I need a new toy urge. It helps.... some.

So, in combination of the new Storm and THR to help take the "edge" off, I start digging through posts in the Non Firearm Weapons. Thinking this would help me until my order arrives.

Well, instead of helping, it points me into the direction of you guessed it, more knives. In the mail now are a Syderco Delica($50), Endura with wave feature($60), which I thought was a bottle opener until I read the purpose on here. OOOH!! I gotta try one of those. I also got the Kershaw tool to swap around pocket clips($8).

I am now almost $300 into a knife binge in two weeks time:uhoh:

BTW I got my Blur and Centofante today and wow. I wasn't going to carry the Blur due the price but, it appears well constructed and durable. The Centofante is nice, but will probably be reserved for occasions where sheeple are present.

Anyways thanks a lot guys and gals for "helping" me.

p.s. Anyone spot me a $20?

[Valkman]

It can't be that bad - you haven't PM'd me an order yet! LOL

[alaskanativeson]

Just wait - It gets worse. Eventually you'll handle a Chris Reeve Sebenza and instead of spending $40 - $75 a knife you're going to be spending much more.

I'd be glad to share with you a story about Randall Made knives and an angry wife. Don't worry, it has a happy ending: Moving a Utah desert girl up to Alaska and showing her the creatures we'd be encountering (thank you Cabelas, for the very large brown bear in your display) I convinced her you can never spend too much on either guns or knives.

Envy me all you want, she's mine. :~)

[Kingcreek]

the cure.
You can cut up your credit card but you'll want a new special knife for that.

The first custom knife I bought cost me $225. it was hard for me to justify that and hard to put that much money into one knife. I lay awake at night thinking about what I had done.
It was a little easier when I spent $400 on the next custom.
Then $650 and hardly even hesitated or gave it a second thought.
When I spent $900 for the right knife it was as easy as buying a pack of gum.

[sm]

I get dibbs on the boy when he gets the Traditional Knife fever...*smile*

Congrats!

[Todd A]

It can get worse....In a few months you might decide to try traditionals. :)

You'll want real USA made 1095 carbon steel ones of course.So you'll start spending too much time (and $) on ebay hunting down "vintage" Schrades.:cool:

sm you were reading my mind...and beat my two finger typing.

[sm]

Todd A,

I expected you to post, and still expect others to in regard to traditional.
Being as we are "old" fashioned, we can take turns thus allowing us to rest.
If the young whippersnappers want to run full steam all the time...fine.

We "old" folks can sit on the porch and take naps...*snore*

Shrade: I thought about you today, I got to thinking about some Old Timers I wish I still had...

I never got into the ebay bit...

[JTW Jr.]

yes indeed , you need a nice slip-joint and maybe a lockback as well. As cool as new designs are.... I still enjoy opening a slippy ( though to most it looks like a monkey screwing a greased football as I have no nails left ).

Blame us all for the knife addiction....we will except it , there is safety in large groups.

You know when you got it bad , so bad , the wife calls you at work to let you know about the e-mailer she just got and what knives are on sale this week. ;)

just give in to the sickness... my modern folders not shown...
yup...I blame all these on the older guys...very wise older guys like SM
http://members.cox.net/eki_karambit/Img_8262.jpg

http://members.cox.net/eki_karambit/loveless%20city%20sheath.jpg

[sm]

JTW Jr.,

Get back in here ...pu-leeze!

You have a tiny Tiny Texas Toothpick! Did you know that? *neat*.

Nice collection indeed, but what is that one on the right, under the Case that ls later shown in the sheath...ummm?

And is that a Camillus made Shrade with the Copenhagen on the blade with black delirn and brass bolsters?

*neat*

[JTW Jr.]

Tiny Texas toothpick ? Where ? I have no idea what the two on the left are , they are a Father & Son set , that remain in their tin , they were given to me , and will be given to whichever of my sons has a son of their own first...hopefully not for many years though.

The sheathed knife is a Lone Wolfe Loveless City Knife - slipjoint. Green Micarta Scales.... nice lil slip , wish it had a stronger pull but it is nicely made , think they are discontinued... it also came with Snakewood scales...and Skrimshawed Ivory. Made the sheath this weekend , got tired of it flopping round in my pocket.

The Copenhagen is indeed a Shrade....good eye sir.

And the Remington is made in US , but unsure what year...

[sm]

Very nice Father & Son Toothpick set, and I respect this passing forward you will do.

Lone Wolfe, very nice!
You did a nice job on the sheath!

Shing does some knives akin to Lone Wolfe, I have handled some of his, and his pocket knives / slip joints are very nice as well.

One of these days maybe, I will get a Shing and in Carbon steel.

Remington's I don't know the code on them as I should, I would have to look it up.

Still my gut says, Camillus made that Shrade with Copenhagen on the blade.


It is not a sickness, just a serious case of appreciation...

[hso]

I am now almost $300 into a knife binge in two weeks time


Two weeks!?! Pffft, that's 5 minutes at the Blade show coming up in a couple of weeks.

Welcome to my nightmare.

[JTW Jr.]

Yeah $300 ain't much , the wife don't even give me a response till it gets close to $500 per knife.

I have a custom slipjoint from Ken Erickson due in sometime in the next couple months or so...can't wait.

Thanks for the comments on the sheath SM. I made one for the Mt Man and for the Seahorse Whittler as well... Remington gets one next.

[Striker]

JTW

What is the knife above the Shrade?

[JTW Jr.]

that would be a Kershaw Double Cross.... 2 blades , 2 locking liners.
pretty cool combo of old and new. And that lil wharrny blade is a cutting machine.

[Striker]

JTW

Thanks! I like it and will be looking around town to find one to handle.

[JShirley]

Mot,

It's hard to go wrong with Spydercos. I suggest you might also want to look into On/Scene Tactical's Speed Dialer for the Waved Endura. I think carrying/opening systems like this are where the Waves really shine.

John

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

Anyways thanks a lot guys and gals for "helping" me.

Hey, no problem. Would you like me to describe a few more with awesome features I think you should get? :evil:

Can someone define "traditional knife" as defined in the way used by a couple of knife knuts in this thread?

[hso]

"traditional" = grandpa's knife :evil:

Slipjoint folders like those made by Case, Queen, etc.

[CWL]

Sick? Are we talking about sicknesses here?

I discovered Sunfish slipjoints (4), Busse Combat (2) and decided to get into custom Camp knives last month (4). Also bought a few one-off knives. And I had to pay taxes!

I have to beat the wife to the mailbox for the next few weeks!

[sm]

JShirley and I are working on a knife design.

(This double secret so don't tell).

We have just a few kinks to work out...

Dasani, John's version, is like a bottle of water.
Dr.Pepper, my version, looks like, Dr.Pepper

John's has dark blue-black checkered scales with white steel blades with a hole in them that lock.
.
Mine has carbon blades with no holes, that do not lock, with nice brown scales, that are bone.

Like I said, a few minor kinks, but we are getting there...

In testing, we used a plastic bottle of water, bottle of Dr.Pepper.

Now we both do not advocate knife fights, stilll...
If you hit with John's, the perp gets wet and the water dries up before the cops show up.

Mine leaves a "identifier" on the perp, as they have this brown sticky mess that stains them and clothing, and leaves a scent.
*taps head - smart huh*

John wants a pocket clip, and I want a lanyard hole, and leather slip.


John: What about a wave?
Steve: We do that already in the South.
John: No you idiot on the knife, so folks can open one handed?
Steve: Listen, just because you did not eat your Corn Flakes as a kid, and are short, don't call me an idiot.
One-Arm-Jack allowed folks to open knives that only had one hand, and they could still wave at folks.

Don't tell anyone, like I said , we a few more kinks to work out, but we gots plans to start a whole new dimension on this here knife fever bidness...

"Steve!!"
<looks around, then down>
"Yeah, now whaddya want?"


*wink*

[Striker]

sm & John,

I don't really care if the new design has a pocket clip or a lanyard hole.

But it absitively, posolutely has to be compatible with an On/Scene Tactical Speed Dialer. No other option is acceptable!

[JShirley]

Truth be told, I'm not really a fan of the Wave, at least when carried as an ordinary folder.

If you look at the recent river knife thread (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=357786), you'll see some really good quick access sheaths by Mike Sastre (http://rivercitysheaths.com/). Now, imagine a good, tightly fitted sheath that also allows your folder to instantly open and lock out when drawn. That's what a Speed Dialer does, and I'm a big fan for mounting on IBA or other external harness mount.

John

[Striker]

John,

That was an attempt at some tongue and cheek fun back at Steve.

But seriously, on my next trip in the box, I'm gonna use the wave and dialer set up on my IBA based on your recommendation.

Jack

[JTW Jr.]

Knifenutt1: I need a tactical folder. One that can open a car door if needed.
SM: How bout just use the key... the chrome thing is the door lock.

Knifenutt1: No , I mean in case of emergency.
SM: Strike the window , take out the glass. Go around the obstruction. Or try the other door.

Knifenutt1: No I want to open that door with it.. oh and the knife has to be under $40.SM: Home Depot - get a prybar.

Knifenutt1: But its not sharp.
SM: Neither will that knife be after you try to pry open the door.

All about getting the correct tool for the job. And having the tool at hand when needed.


I dont consider myself only a diehard traditional knife fanatic ( gimme time SM I am getting there ) , I still like my Strider folders , as well as the elusive Carson small model 4 ( though a Carson Slip Joint would be my ultimate user knife ). I have come to appreciate the traditionals though over the past few years , thru people that have shared real world experiences , like SM.

I am not convinced they are the only tool for the job , no tool really is suited for every job, however for most cutting tasks , they will do just fine.

You get arguements for & against slipjoint vs conventional ( liner , axis , button , framelock, mid , back , etc ) all the time , almost as much as forged vs stock removal. Are there pro's / cons for each ? Certainly , life is about trade offs , give and take , stop and go , backup & push , 7-11..ooops. ;)

I have to admit that most of the uber cool ninja stuff I have no interest in at all , though I did make an exception for the Karambit , found it to be great for pruning the wifes flowers and that curved blade makes a dandy Copenhagen can opener. But even now that sits in a drawer in my toolbox in the shop.

One thing you will find with traditionals , they fit the hand. As my bud Trace put it , "the handle has to feel good , its the user interface to the blade." A knife that has a handle that is chunky , square or sharp pointy edges may feel cool for a minute , but use it , really use it and see if it dont have enuff hot spots to raise a blister or 5 in short order :)

In my short yet challenging knifemaking hobby , I keep getting asked " Dude when you coming out with a folder ? ".....
my reply " hopefully this year I will finally have a functional and decent looking single blade slipjoint to show off "......

" What ? A slipjoint..no man , tactical folder , that's where it is at "..

" I have no idea how to design a tactical , or truely what tactical is , all is know is what I think a knife should be and be able to do , to me , slipjoints and lockbacks are what I want to make. "

" dude , you are nuts "...

" yeah maybe so , but I make what I want , not what everyone else makes..."


Rounding out the carry gear : a slipjoint ( the LW City Knife carried every day since I got it ) , the Strider PT ( carried for a couple years , recently replaced in Jan with a PT CC ) , plus I always add a small fixed blade ( sub 3" blade ), carried horizontal , switch between a BM210 and a Rinaldi Matrix. There is usually the Remington or Case in a shirt pocket and one nearby in the lunch pail.

People say I have knife issues...I have no issues , they are all sharp and available when needed , nope , no issues at all.

Working around the house or shop or away from work , I will clip the Strider AR in my pocket , yes it's big , real big. Why a folder as big as the AR ? I can't explain it , I consider Mick & crew friends. And for me , this one of of the few large folders that fit me.

Last night a friend dropped by and told me I was getting old , no idea why he thought that , I just ignored it and went back to whittling that stick. Nice edge on this one I mumbled to myself , yeah it's a keeper.

Upon leaving he paused to stop and tie up the elderly lady next doors tree that had came loose from its stake in the wind , he pulled a 20 year old scout knife out and trimmed the rope. He walked back to me and asked me about a knife that locks , he wanted one just to supplement his scout knife that he has carried for those 20 years , went into the house , came back out and gave him a Buck Mayo Cutback that I bought awhile back and never used.
Now he has one of each , but I bet he atill goes to the slip first every time ;)

Choices...all about choices , with all the options available , there are knives to fit all needs... but try not to over think it.

[sm]

I messed with a Wave and it is not for me, and I really did have an open mind and willingness to learn about this design when I did.

Case RussLock, I can do, and it filled, and still does fill a niche for some.
One-Arm-Jack, is one IMO that is really hard to beat for folder.

Personally, I like pocket knives and fixed.
Keep in mind, I am not into knife fights.
I do understand the need to access a knife one-handed -and- close one handed.
So for me, a non-locking knife is "safer" to close.

Re: Water.
I have spent my time in a canoe, including going to Canada and paddling and portaging all over for extended times.
I have spent my time doing white water in a canoe, and other water related matters where a knife was a serious tool, one did not need to lose it, and one needed to access it perhaps if matters got serious and fast.

Yes, I did this often with only a slip joint, I admit pushing the envelope on going minimal.
Some of this was more survival related and having to use what little there was.

I used cord found to hang a flint rock around my neck for instance one time, if I or someone else became trapped under a canoe, or supplies needed cut loose, use a flint rock.
Case Peanut was in my pocket, that was the only knife I was allowed to have.
And these folks really did have me/us cut with these rocks...we might really have to do this, so better to flub in learning than in real life.


Serious white water, or other water situations I had 4 knives, on my person.
One around my neck, one on each leg, and one in my pocket where I could not lose it.
Five actually, as in that small tin, I was to always always have in my pocket I had a small Old Timer pen knife and a fire making stuff.
That was so I would not die from hypothermia as I had a way to make fire once I got to the bank.

Where are your hands and what can you reach?

One gets tossed, and one has to be able to access a knife, with either hand, and fast!

Break a arm, or hand...
Caught in timber (beaver dam, logs, brush, whatever) and you cannot reach up to neck/chest, or access a pocket, or one side of the body or the other?
So, we practiced lessons, of being impeded /injured and having to get to a knife and being able to use it.

We all did the same, as it might be best if someone coming to my aid, I theirs access a knife they have.

Lanyards, sheaths to secure serious tools in serious environments.

I have nothing against new knife offerings, made of new materials or designs.
Nor do I have anything against more expensive knives, collectibles, or pride of ownership.

I am practical, traditional and believe in redundancy for a reason.
If a person only has $100 for a knife, I think instead of one knife, two or more, if this knife is going to be, or might be, used in a serious environment.

Heck if all they have s $50, then at least get a Wal-Mart $7 SAK Classic SD , leaving them $43 to spend on a knife.

Just btdt and how I am ...

[JShirley]

Jack,

I used zip ties to fasten mine. Worked great, and you can also quickly remove if necessary. This type of setup is great also, because you can just pull the Spydie and carry it in your pocket if not in IBA, without looking like a Rambo poser.

J

[auschip]

As long as we are enabling his "illness", he might as well get into the customs.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=354984

Prices on these are outstanding.

[Todd A]

Knifenutt1: I need a tactical folder. One that can open a car door if needed.
SM: How bout just use the key... the chrome thing is the door lock.


Easy one......a stockman ,a camillus made Kabar 1081 to be exact.:evil:

No lie did it just about two weeks ago. Locked my keys in the ignition, slipped out my slippie and jimmied the vent window.

Of course my truck is old enough to HAVE a vent window. :eek:

So I can honestly say a simple slipjoint will open a car (or in this case truck) just as easily as a high-teck tactical. :neener:

[JTW Jr.]

years ago while living in PA , a friend drove a tow truck ( family owned business ).

Was with him on a call , guy locked his keys in his car at a sleezy no-tell motel out in the middle of no where ( aka Jacktown Hill ). Well we get there and the slim jim wont work , dam confangled theft deterrent boxes over the inards of the door.

Guy says I don't care what you have to do , I need that car open and I need it open now , I will double the bill , just open it !!...amazing how fast a J-hook will take out a window :)

He says " well dam I could have done that ! ".........." yeah , but you didn't ".

Todd - you cheated , j/k !;) Nice going. Vent windows , dam wish cars still had em !

[sm]

True.

Young couple, with first child and life as they had known it, had changed.
Little critter is pawned off on grandparents to dote over.

Dad, with dark circles under eyes, has a business meeting that day.

Mom is free!
She has a day off, no hubby, no brat and ...she locks the door to see keys in ignition.

So like her husband, operating on no sleep, she just walks into a store to call her husband whom has a spare set when her brain remembers "that" meeting.
Feeling stupid, turns to panic, when she dials the phone.

She apologizes for having to call , she admits messing up, still she needs to get into her car.
Meeting is delayed for two hours, still husband has to leave work, stressed with this meeting and ...

Wife is waiting, goes out to the car feeling so low and stupid.
She looks inside the car and ...the passenger side, back door is unlocked!

She immediately opens that door, and locks it!

It would not be good for husband to arrive, only to see that door unlocked, after having to come out to where wife is, especially on a stressful day.

File: Strategy & Tactic >Folder: Non-Firearm weapons > Sub Folder> Getting yelled at.

[sixgunner455]

/\ :D

[sm]

Couple of small town HS kids.
Girl and boy grew up together and neighboring farms.

Case Pocket knife was what one did.

Money was tight, lots of the old kinfolks only had one knife to last them for decades, or their whole life, some had a "Sunday " knife, to take to church.

These kids would save their hard earned money, and even do a Lay-a-way to finally get that knife they had left so many fingerprints, on the display glass.

Working the farm, and really hoping a relative would help out to assist with some money to help them collect a knife.

They got married out of HS, and over the years were able to collect more Case knives.
Then they had a girl, and it was cute and fun letting the daughter collect her knives.
Then a boy come along and he too would look and point and have a knife for him and his collection.

"MoOM! Case has a new Stockman, can I have it?"
"Daddy, Case has a new Peanut, can I have it?"

Collecting business was getting a bit serious, and expensive.
Even with the kid getting bigger, and having to earn their money.

Kids get bigger, cupid shoots an arrow into butts and these two parents do what most parents do without thinking;
"When you gonna make me a grandparent?"

These kids did make grandparents, out of parents.
They also said to the kids, since grandparents are going to spoil them rotten, why not look into collecting Case Knives.

"Your granddaughter/grandson noticed Case has a _____ pattern in John Deere and wants one..."


These Grandparents now understand why kinfolks back in the day only had one, maybe two knives for decades, maybe their whole life.

Knives are tools all right...
Dang kids and grandkids sure do know how to "work" this tool.

"Grandma/Grandpa, can we get on the Computer and see what new knives Case has, please?"

"No, the dawg ate the computer" - grandparents

*smile*

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

sm, how many espressos did you have today? :D :neener: