ok guys, ive searched and searched for this, help?


May 6, 2008, 12:25 AM
i keep hearing that the perfect powder measure works "pretty good" with certain powders.

problem is, no one ever says which ones.

what powders work best in the perfect powder measure.

better yet, which hodgdon powders work best in it.

im loading for .223 (ar rifle) and for .45acp (1911)

im looking at varget for the .223 and need a suggestion for the pistol.

im just trying to avoid buying a lot of different powders right off the bat.

ps i asked this at the loadmaster forum a week ago and still not a single reply. im tired of checking 10 times a day and getting nothing and this place is so active i should kick myself for not just asking here from the get go.

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May 6, 2008, 12:31 AM
My buddy had this powder thrower before he got a new Dillon 550b and used to load 45 acp with Clays. I used his rig to load 38 spcl a few times and that was with Bullseye. They both metered okay.

for rifle powders, we always used dippers and a scale, until I got my Chargemaster combo so I can't help you there.

Cheers, Mate.

Mt Shooter
May 6, 2008, 12:32 AM
not sure about Perfect Powder Measure, but H335 pours like sugar and makes a good 223 load. If your looking for that magical powder that will work in pistol and rifle both let me know when you find it.

evan price
May 6, 2008, 12:42 AM
For your .45 try Bullseye, or my fav is Titegroup.
I use Varget for eveything now in rifles.

May 6, 2008, 12:48 AM
Meters fine with promo/red dot.

May 6, 2008, 01:04 AM
the motion for H335 for the 223. Meters like water and shoots great in that cartridge. One of my better 223 loads calls for a medium light charge of H335 and 40g Nosler Ballistic Tips with Win primers. It consistently shoots sub-moa @100 yards in both the guns I've shot if from.

As for the 45... I've shot a bunch of Clays with 230LRN and was quite happy with the load, but Clays is for light loads in 45. I wouldn't accuse Clays of metering well, but not bad in my 550 or Uniflow.

Titegroup will meter well and shoots well, but will not come anywhere near filling the case. Double, and triple charges are possible without overflowing the case.

Just FYI, I'm not familiar with your powder measure.

May 6, 2008, 12:16 PM
I use the pro auto disk and H335 and W748 meter great. From what I have read the fine ball powder will tend to leak a little in the PPM. I have also read that if you run a hopper full of powder through it it will get better, and some have even run graphite through to get rid of the leaks. Hope this helps.

May 6, 2008, 12:34 PM
I use Titegroup and AA #5 for .45 ACP

Varget and H4895 for .223

Varget & H4350 for 7mm-08 and .280 Rem

Hmmm... I got 30-06, 8mm, and 284 Win brass lying around, and no gun to load for...

May 6, 2008, 02:18 PM
I've been using the Perfect Powder Measure for twenty years. Once had the Hornady version, but I must've got the one lemon out of every 5000 that got produced; but I have that kind of luck.

Only "problem" I ever experience with the measure is with finer ball powders--and the problem is an occasional leak when/if something bumps the bench. No big deal--I just put one of the measuring scale pans under it.

Zero problems with larger powders, flake powders and extruded powders.

Took me a pound or better of powder recyling through it to get it throwing consistent, accurate charges. Once I got it through the break-in period, it's the best $20 component on my bench. I've never had any reason to change or look at new powder dumps.

Where in Texas are you?


May 7, 2008, 12:08 PM
W231 flows like water. almost as if it was made for it.

dagger dog
May 7, 2008, 04:22 PM
The perfect powder measure will, work geat with extruded powders(the long rods), flake (bullseye) powders and fine ball(Win 748) tend to leak out the drum area. If you tighten the drum to take up the slack, then the measure is too hard to turn.

Varget works well in the measure, it is a short cut extruded powder.

I shoot Bullseye in .38spcl, and it leaks like water through the perfect measure.

But here's the catch I also use a RCBS Uniflow Measure, it doesn't leak the flake or ball, but the extruded has problems, as in the cutting of the powder granule as it is caught between the drum and lip of the body, this creates a very jjjerky uneven motion as the granules are being cut! It messes with the rhythm,you try to keep when dropping charges.

Art Eatman
May 7, 2008, 08:58 PM
I use an ancient RCBS powder measure. I bought some Varget out of ignorance, and have loaded a hundred rounds or so of .223 with it. A bit "scrunchy", but less so than for, say, 4064. Works smoothly with ball or flake powders.

The .223 loads group just fine, though. Prairie dog time a'comin'.

:), Art

May 7, 2008, 09:33 PM
The Perfect does a great job for Varget for me. I saw another user mention H335, which also measures well, but I try to avoid those powders - I tend to make a mess with the fine stuff. Plus I've had better accuracy with Varget in my loads.

May 7, 2008, 10:08 PM
Varget, Benchmark, IMR4064 and H4831SC work great in the PPM.

I prefer the Lyman 55 for W748, H335 and BLC2.

May 8, 2008, 12:47 AM
I dont know what you guys are talking about... The "PERFECT" powder measure only comes on a DILLON!!!
I've been playing with "ACCURATE #7" for my .40s&w, And just started useing it in my .45acp, So far it works fairly well in both.
8.0 gr in .40 I like.
10.0 gr in .45 seems o/k.
I'm still tweeking both of those 'RECEPES"...But so-far it's looking realy good.

May 8, 2008, 12:54 AM
i ended up getting h335 and hp38 today.

i wanted to get varget and titegroup but they didnt have it.

the h335 looks like it would meter well but the hp38 im not so sure about. it looks like little discs where the h335 looks like little balls.

its weird cuz hodgdons site says hp38 is ball powder but it dont look like it to me.

will find out soon.

ive got some unique thats probably 15 years old, might try that in the pistol.

May 8, 2008, 12:58 AM
Ive been using vihtavuori and that works great in perfect powder measure.
To be exact : N320, N340, N350, N110, N130, N133, N135
No experiences with other powders.

May 8, 2008, 01:09 AM
will look into those sarge.

May 8, 2008, 07:07 AM
I load HP-38 and Titegroup for the .45 ACP. I use the prodisk measure and both throw consistent charges. On next purchase, I want to try Accurate #7, volume should be a little fuller, but because of the size of the charge, will produce a lot fewer rounds. With HP 38 or titegroup you get around 1400 cases per pound and with Accurate #7 around 850.

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