[1KPerDay]

I'm... um.... drought and famine resistant. Any portly gentlemen here have success with belt carry? My love handles get in the way of everything I've tried and it isn't particularly comfortable. Pocket carry seems like the way to go for me. Any advice from fellow 'big, strong, rib-eatin' fellers'? :D

I got my permit the other day and am considering my limited options. Skinny guys have all the luck.:rolleyes:

[illEagle]

A lot of folks don't like the idea of an un-holstered gun in your pants but I carry either a Kel-Tec P3AT or a Khar p9 IWB with a Clip-Draw clip on each every day-all day. The P3AT disappears and the grip of the P9 tucks in nicely under the love handles...

6-3 295.

[Albatross]

The best thing you could do to protect your life is loose the weight and carry IWB, but outside of that advice all my fat buddies love their shoulder holsters.

Or more often they carry a small gun in their front pants pocket.

[cmidkiff]

Pocket carry is the most comfortable, for sure. If you are real big, a snub revolver generally fits pretty well.

I tend to like OWB pancake holsters pretty well, they tend to be quite comfortable to me... ymmv.

I dislike shoulder holsters, quite uncomfortable. I've tried smartcarry as well, it worked, but I never felt very secure, always very conscious of placement, careful when sitting, etc

A fanny pack works well with casual dress, and most people won't look twice at a big guy sporting a fanny pack... probably figure it's full of emergency snacks :)

[RustyShackelford]

Funny stuff! :D

I too am what Southwest airlines calls a COS(customer of size). Depending on your CC needs/weapons, I would suggest a well made shoulder rig like the highly rated Galco Miami Classic 2 or the Aker model(if you want right handed, lefties are harder to get, why Aker does this, who the $%^& knows, :mad:). Pocket rigs may be good if you can carry a small j-frame/pocket size pistol.

A MOB, middle of the back rig could work too, if you wear a large vest/jacket/shirt over it.

If you are really big you may want to carry 2 weapons. A small weapon on your belt and a larger firearm in a shoulder rig. Many big city police detectives would carry weapons this way. ;)

[1KPerDay]

The best thing you could do to protect your life is loose the weight
I'm working on it... I'm even on 2 diets. One just didn't give me enough food. :D

I'm not one of those guys who you look at and say 'dayum'... I'm 6'3" and about 280 (the holidays were not kind to me). :rolleyes: My cholesterol is good, my blood pressure is good, and I walk a lot. Just have trouble dropping the pounds once I've worked so hard to accumulate them. What can I say, I'm a good cook and I enjoy food. :D

Thanks for the tips.

[retgarr]

I used to be in a position close to yours. I found a lower riding IWB at about the 4 o'clock worked best.
I lost the weight, and am now in shape. I can now caryy my CZ75 anywhere on my waist with a tshirt. Loosing weight, best concealment method I've tried.

[Thernlund]

I'm in ok shape and I still find carrying anything at all on my belt line uncomfortable, even a belt! Problem is, I have all this stuff I use all the time.

Another thread mentioned this...

http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=4&idproduct=31

I think I'm gonna get one. http://www.thehighroad.org/images/icons/icon14.gif


-T.

[Fat Boy]

As my user name implies, I am one of the "portly" gentlemen you so graciously described above- I don't have a ccw license, but have thought to do so, and in thinking things through I have had the same questions...I believe a pocket carry might be best...

[Sistema1927]

Before I lost 100+ pounds I would pocket carry.

I still pocket carry. The main reason being that I don't need to worry about a cover garment, and my Kahr PM9 rides undetected in any choice of pants/slacks/shorts that I desire.

[pbearperry]

If I get any fatter,I think I will carry my S&W scandium under my left droopy breast.

[Nikdfish]

I'm well padded but have no problem with a P95 in a Crossbreed Supertuck at 3:00 - 3:30 ...


Nick

[Mike OTDP]

I've got the same problem. Shoulder holsters don't work that well for large folks. What would work is a custom shoulder rig that puts the gun on the strong side, muzzle down.

[KyJim]

I've got a lot of extra pounds. As retgarr mentioned, the 4 o'clock IWB with a low riding holster works well -- like the Sparks Summer Special II.

[Grizfire]

I'm 6'2" 230 with some nice love handles, but no butt. I find that my gun fits under the love handles with a IWB, milt sparks VM2. This actually helps with concealment, as the gun just fills the void.

[mkonops]

I would recommend something small at 3:00 - 3:30, anywhere else is either too uncomfortable or won't allow you to sit easily. I have trouble carrying anything large, but I find the Kahr K9 has the best combination of size and heft for me to carry and enjoy shooting. If I don't have the Kahr on board I carry a Seecamp in a Nemisis front pocket holster. Overall I have found these to be the best options. I have tried to carry a 1911, USP, 226, 229, and even an XD Subcompact, all of which just don't work too well with men of our stature. Best of luck to you.

[Mad Magyar]

This reminds me of an article some months ago by big Mike "Duke" Venturino who wrote a parody about himself and the hardships of CC for the big guys...He couldn't use cross-draw (arm couldn't reach across his girth), shoulder rig (too far a reach), b.o.b.(no way!), ankle (couldn't reach), etc.. IIRC, he only felt comfortable/adequate with strong side OWB holster....:)
I believe the pocket carry was too tight for him to retrieve the pistol....:D

[f4t9r]

The best thing you could do to protect your life is loose the weight

Thanks for letting us fat guys in on that little secret. We had no idea !!!!
As for carry, pocket or at about 4:00 with a good sturdy belt works well for me. Need to remember to get talls in shirt sizes to cover the waist and the plumbers crack.

[Car Knocker]

1KPerDay, I aspire one day to match your svelt figure! In the meantime, I carry a 3" Kimber .45ACP in a Milt Sparks VM-2 at 3:00 or, more usually, I pocket-carry the Kimber in a custom leather pocket holster.

[Harvster]

I think you should try to gain 100-150 pounds. You'd soon find you have all sorts of places to tuck a gun into.:D I prefer pocket carry.

[Rich K]

Here is another vote for the 4 o'clock position with an IWB, in my case a Kimber 45 in a SUmmer Special. A t-shirt or polo shirt hides it just fine.

[DC300a]

I feel your pain 1KPerDay. I generally carry around the 5:00 to 5:30 position. Sitting can be uncomfortable at times but you get used to it.

[foghornl]

Hmmmmm

You COULD hire one of those "Safari Gun Bearers" to travel everywhere with you.... :evil: :D :evil: :D :evil:


sorry...I'm just sort of in a Mr. Wise N. Heimer mode right now

I HAD to loose some weight for medical reasons, so IWB works OK for me now, but not when I had more ahhhhhhhh "Physical Presence" :D

[usp9]

I carry OWB at 4:00. It's comfortable standing, driving and sitting and easy to conceal. The Galco Concealable and Mitch Rosen Premier are excellent holsters for this method. I can't stand IWB... uncomfortable and I can't bring myself to buy pants bigger than they have to be. :o I also pocket carry a tiny pistol when not carrying OWB. At 5'10", 200 lbs, I guess I qualify as "portly". My Indian name would be Never Miss a Meal. :D

[BryanP]

As a fellow Man of Substance :uhoh:, I'll chime in and say that the clothing we are forced to wear has an advantage in pocket size. I find a J-frame (S&W 638 in my case) in a Desantis Nemesis holster fits my front pocket quite nicely. I may try a Ruger LCP when they become more commonly available and get through any first-year-gun teething issues.

If you're built anything like me and you have a nice solid belt (or suspenders) to keep your pants up you could probably get away with something as large and heavy as an SP101.

[Dravur]

I too, like food, and have been losing weight for a while now, but have a ways to go.

I have always carried in a normal holster a full size gun. Go for a gun that is thin though. I carried a HK p7 for a long time with no problem. I always carry in about the 4 pm position. This kept the gun off my hip bone and kept it just behind my side and that worked well for sitting, walking etc.

Currently, I carry a Sig 225 and have no problem with it in the same position.

I admit I have clanked on door frames with my gun.

I use an open topped holster and rely on the FRD system... Fat Retention Device for holding the gun in the holster.

[kd7nqb]

I consider myself a fatty, and if I dont the women certainly do. About 5'10 275 but I find my Comp-tac MTAC will a full size M&P just fine at about 3:30-4 o'clock. Pocket carry is another option. My father is also a big guy and is a big fan of Ankle carry, he doesn't carry much anymore but his body size has not changed since he did.

[oweno]

There's a thing called 'Hidden Tailor', made by a company called Flex-belt.

It's a rubber belt with knobs on it that you wear between your shirt and your trousers. It keeps your shirt tucked in and your pants up. For those of us with a bit of a 'front porch, it works great with any belt holster.
Google the name, it's not expensive, and it may work for you.

As said above, suspenders are the best but not always the best option...shoulder holsters are great too.

[Rugerlvr]

I'm portly, and I've been thinking that when I get my permit, I'll pocket carry an LCP.

[Headless]

IWB uncle mikes @ around 1 o click fits perfectly under my fat belly. In fact, you can't even see the gun even if i lift my shirt up because my belly totally covers the grip...now that's concealment ;) Concealing larger semi-auto's becomes difficult because they ride higher and have large, bulky grips...but a small J frame is easily concealed under your belly, just find a low riding IWB holster. If you can handle long pants, ankle holsters don't care how big their wearers belly is either ;) Pocket carrying a J frame or using cargo shorts with large square pockets to pocket carry a larger semi auto like the CS9, CS40, Glock 26, can work well too.

[1KPerDay]

You COULD hire one of those "Safari Gun Bearers" to travel everywhere with you....
I went on Safari once but people kept ketting confused and pointing their rifles at me. Guess I shouldn't have worn that "rhino-grey" suit. LOL

Fat Retention Device
BAAH AHAAAA! :D:D:D

[1KPerDay]

If I get any fatter,I think I will carry my S&W scandium under my left droopy breast.
This still has me chuckling... and gagging...

[DougDubya]

As my roll of flab hangs off the front and not the sides, the back of the hip's a good spot. An open front, untucked button-down shirt (with washers sewn into the tails to prevent the wind from blowing it) allows great shoulder-holster carry in the summer and fall.

Also, you might get something bigger into a pocket holster, so long as you endeavor to find the comfy pants like Dockers or their St. John's Bay knockoffs.

[Drizzt]

Believe it or not, a Belly Band holster works well for me, and has the added benefit of making me look thinner.... ;)

I suppose you could always get one of those 5.11 Tactical vests and wear it.

[AndyC]

I would just like to establish that I am singularly unqualified to comment on this subject and will therefore bow gracefully out of the thread :D

[theotherwaldo]

I live in a real hot area and have a job that is really gun-intolerant, so I use a special set-up for pocket-carry with my G-27. I use a piece of stiffened material between the bag of my front pocket and the outer shell of the pants leg. Also, I use a snap-in holster in the pocket. Absolutely no print that way.

When you weigh over 300 pounds, your options are pretty limited.

[Luggo]

6'3, 300.

Full size 1911 or glock 30 at about 4 o'clock. A good belt, for me the wilderness belts and a good holster, Sparks VM2 or Southern Holsters "Memphis" are very comfortable for me.

[hrgrisso]

I've been CCW'ing for about five years now. And while that doesn't qualify me as an expert I've played around with numerous carry styles and found a few suggestions for MEN OF GIRTH to think about.

First IWB is the best way to go. For big guys from sitting to standing stretching etc your gun will move in OWB in awkward ways and you won't be CC anymore. 2nd I've found that spending a hundred bucks on a well made holster is so worth it. Buy a couple of pairs of CCW pants with a slightly bigger waist to accomadate it and don't sweat the rest. IWB with a well made holster will completely reinvigorate your desire to be armed at all times.

For the record I usually carry my SigPro or P239 and I IWB both. I actually prefer the Pro as the 239 is so small I sometimes get the feeling like it's moving and that makes me very uncomfortable.

In regards to Where to put the IWB most guys like the 4 0'clock position. Buy a cheap holster first to find what placement works best for you. I found that an FBI cant on my holster in the 50'clock position works best. It's snug against my back and it doesn't move and my clothes hang over it and no one is the wiser.

Last thoughts on the Maxpedition. It's a great way to carry but don't get the GREEN one. Everybody stares. But I've found that by sticking a couple of KODAK and CANON patches on mine that it seems to diffuse interest.

However you will get tired of carrying only that way. You will want to find an on the body because sometimes you just want to travel light. A bag is only good when your ready to carry it.

Don't for whatever reason buy the Maxpedition Colossus. It's too big. You'll want to fill it. In fact right now in mine I have an Ipod, 2 cameras (still and video), diapers and wipes, a small first aid kit, a variety of painkillers and meds, a flashlight and a leatherman, a bottle of water, a notebook and pen, an address book, hand sanitizer. When it's legal/ethical I have a gun and 2-3 extra mags as well. :D

[flyby]

Plenty of nice Pocket Holsters available for J-frames, Keltecs, Kahr etc..
..is always better than just sticking a gun in your pocket.

[1KPerDay]

those of you using the VM2, what's the advantage of it over the Summer special?

[Cosmoline]

I change clothes too many times a day to make IWB practical, even if I liked it which I don't. The snags are way too frequent and the cover shirt can get blown aside by the wind revealing the butt of the firearm. I go with pocket carry. Simple, effective and cheap.

[Car Knocker]

1KPerDay,

The SS has two closely-spaced belt loops attached to the body of the holster and is made with the leather rough-side out. The VM-2 has widely-spaced belt loops attached to holster extensions fore and aft of the holster body and is made with leather smooth-side out. The SS has less leather molding than the VM-2. The VM-2 is slightly thinner because the belt loops are not attached to the holster body (I don't think that extra 1/8" is really an issue, however).

In my usage, I find the VM-2 to be more comfortable and stable than the SS due to the widely spaced belt loops. My perception is that the VM-2 affords greater retention due to the molding. The VM-2 also allows for the use of the Kydex clips to create a "tuckable" holster.

Here's the link to the MS site for these holsters: http://www.miltsparks.com/IWB_holsters.htm

[esq_stu]

5'8", 265, 44 belt size, but my pants do not feel secure with a belt only, so I also use suspenders - the kind that attach to the belt and not to the pants. I carry OWB primary at 4 o'clock and pocket BUG. It's the best I have come up with so far.

[1KPerDay]

car knocker, thanks. I had checked out the site but wasn't sure what the advantages would be.

[Gator]

I found a lower riding IWB at about the 4 o'clock worked best.

Works for me! The belly band works well too, but access is slower.*

*Disclaimer: When I am in a free State where my permit is recognized, of course!

[TimboKhan]

The best thing you could do to protect your life is loose the weight

Mom?

I am probably one of the biggest guys on THR, and I carry a Taurus 605 IWB in an Uncle Mikes pouch, and it's very comfortable for me. I occasionally carry my P3AT in my pocket, but I personally don't care for pocket carry a whole lot. Why, you ask? Mostly because I don't like a whole lot of anything in my pants because it drags my pants down.

In my opinion, when your a great big guy, you have to sort of consider that when you choose a gun. For whatever reason, people assume that we can carry big guns no problem, but that simply isn't the case. I have carried a pretty big gun on occasion, and it worked out OK, but in my experience, the flatter, the better. My 605 is fairly flat given that it's a revolver, and it also has the advantage of not having slide releases and safetys digging into me. The Uncle Mikes pouch thing (I have no idea what model it is off the top of my head) is considerably more flexible than leather, and for us big dudes, I think it is far superior to leather.

As far as belt carry, the basic problem is that wide, stiff "gun belts" dig into us quite painfully. To be honest, I have never found a particularly good way to carry on my belt that was comfortable. Possibly some of the "instructor" belts that are wide, but made of cloth, would work better, but I haven't seen any around that are made in large man sizes.

Also, small dudes, on a serious tip, we all know that losing weight is the way to go. Despite tough guy thinking that it's as easy as putting down the cake and mixing in a salad, losing weight is an incredibly difficult undertaking. We know we are fat, we know the solution, and all your doing is pointing out the obvious.

[jhoff8487]

I'd try a Dakota Defender IWB from K&D. I've got one for my Steyr M40-A1(not a small gun but not huge either) and it conceals rather nicely at about 4:00 and can ride really low making it real comfortable. Being big has it's advantages with carry(as well as some disadvantages). You can conceal most anything anywhere and even if it prints a bit, since you've got lots of other rolls no one will even notice or say a word out of embarrassment. Think about it.

[Dusey]

5'9"---310 lbs. I just applied for my CCW and should have my permit by June 5th. I have a Beretta 84 Cheetah {Nickel plated} and a Nemesis pocket holster. The gun holds 13+1 rnds of 380 and is a little bulky. However my jeans have very large pockets and it fits in there just fine. I will try this for awhile and see how it goes. I've carried it around inside the house just to see how it felt, and so far all is good.

[lsfagan]

I carry a kahr cw9 , para c6, ruger sp101 all three of these have a clipdraw on them I carry them on the right side just forward of my rear pocket this works well for me on ccw.:cuss::cuss::cuss:

[TonyB]

OK,I am my ideal weight if I was 11 feet tall..in other words,I'm fat.I tried IWB..sucked...shoulder holster...sucked....what did work....I used a desansits thumb break and put it BETWEEN my belt and pants.It held the gun real close and fought the"love handles".I now pocket carry and love it.I have and do pocket carry these:
1)s/w 642(airweight)most of the time
2)Charter Arms Bulldog(2nd most)
3)Taurus pt111(3rd most)size of a glock 26

I could ankle carry,but I'd never see the gun again...:uhoh:

[Noxx]

Another "person of carriage" here, at 6'2" and 300 I've tried a number of IWB products, and after I lot of frustration I put my 642 in my front pocket and call it a day.

[DMacLeod]

I am of the "big boned" catagory:o and carry at 4:00 IWB 90% of the time depending on weapon of choice. If carrying my Seecamp it just goes in my front or back pocket. If one of my 45s it is IWB.

[jackstinson]

I qualify for this!
First off.....for anyone who's first response was "lose weight"...sometimes it just isn't an option. In my case, medical treatment precludes that option (as much as I'd love to get back to the weight/size I was at two and a half years ago).
SUMMER: I carry in a DeSantis Nemesis pocket holster, or put a pocket gun in an IWB holster. IWB is comfortable for me if the gun is small.
WINTER: I carry a larger main gun in my coat pocket & a pocket gun either IWB or in pants pocket.
btw- I'm hoping to be able to get off these meds in two more weeks, then I can try getting back to where I started! ;)
Jack

[James T Thomas]

Pear shape?

-Shoulder holster.

Rolly Polly?

-Cross Draw.

Hot 'n Tot?

-Pocket carry.

At the trough?

-Doggie bag.

[SG1]

I too have the love handle problem. I'm taking my CCW shortly and have often thought about a middle of the back IWB.

[ugly old guns]

I've been carrying three now for about a year. Best is OWB at 3-4 o'clock. Main carry is a steyr ma1 (Think glock midsize) and it disappears under a covering shirt, whatever style it is. It does help a lot if you wear another t-shirt under the pants, preferably tucked into the underwear. Next best was a 1911 in an IWB holster, tucked about 4 o'clock. great concealment, but the draw was a pain, and always put a big strain on my right shoulder when doing drills. Pocket carry was alright, but always felt too hidden, like the gun would be irrelevant by the time an attack on my person was concluded. So, for movement and ease of use, OWB at 3-4 o'clock works best for me in most situations. Just don't let it ride back too far around the love handles, or you'll forgetit's there, but everyone in a one mile radius will see it when you move at all. For what it's worth, I'm 6'5", and currently go around 330. Oh yeah, spend your money on the belt, not just the holster.

[bigmike45]

I am 6' 6" & am at last weigh in 305 with more around my waist than want. For several years I have been carrying my 4" 1911 very comfortably IWB in a VM2.

[chieftain]

5'8" lbs.

I am fat. I use a Milt Sparks VMII to carry my 1911's, IWB very comfortably.

For my High Powers, I use a UGB Canute, which is similar to a VMII. IWB.

For my Glocks I use a TS IWB Kydex.

And for my SIG's I use Blade Tech UCH.

Depending on the gun, they can all be comfortable. I like the VM II and Canute the best.

I normally carry a full size 5" Colt Gunsite Pistol, Government.

Go figure.

Fred

[Ash]

As to the comments made by folks about losing weight, it is pretty low class to recommend it on a thread such as this. Folks know their shape and either are happy with it or not. Those who are happy frankly don't welcome the advice, those who are not happy, don't need the advice as it seems like nagging.

I lost 30 lbs once out of desire, and maintain the same overall college weight (have to still fit in my kilt, you know). But I'm not going to pontificate about the merits of losing weight and tell others to do it. That's what women-folk are good at (not a sexist comment, just a fact based on growing up with 4 sisters). Guys aren't even supposed to care what the other guy looks like.

As to CCW, I do it with a cruising vest when I can't open carry (orange vest used to carry my gear in the woods while I work). That is basically a cross between pocket carry and using a fanny pack. Probably more akin to guys using a photographer's vest. Would a vest such as a photographer's vest work in this way?

Ash

[FranklyTodd]

Pocket carry was alright, but always felt too hidden, like the gun would be irrelevant by the time an attack on my person was concluded.

I've never heard this criticism of pocket carry. I have a lightweight hammerless snub in a Nemesis 99% of the time, and other than while driving, I can't imagine anything faster. 1/2 the time while walking around I have the gun invisibly in my hand already - presentation is as fast as you can pull your hand out of your pocket... In addition, seems a likely mugging scenario is "give me your wallet" which invites you to calmly reach into your pocket... To the poster that said pocket carry drags down their pants, have you tried one of the new 12-13oz snubs? Or a P3AT/LCP? Just thought you may have only tried a steel snub - there really is a big difference.

I sometimes carry a Glock 26 IWB at 4 o'clock. I like having double the shots at times, but access is much, much slower, and more obvious that I'm going for a weapon.

That's just me - YMMV. Didn't mean to go off topic, I just think pocket carry is hard to beat for any size person.

[1KPerDay]

5'8" lbs.

Couldn't bring yourself to type that number, huh? I know how you feel. :D

[1KPerDay]

I'm taking my CCW shortly and have often thought about a middle of the back IWB.
Think about it until you actually try it, then you'll likely think of something else. ;)

[ahpd1992]

I AM FAT! I know it and it is a daily struggle, you skinny guys just shut up and let us large folk try n help each other out. OK, I find pocket holsters are the best solution for me. I was carrying a Taurus 905 in a DeSantis pocket holster. The all stainless gun was a bit on the heavy side, but I made it a habit of walking around with my hand in my gun pocket. No one even glanced and I had the added benefit of having my gun at the ready all the time. Im telling you guys no one pays attention, even other gun guys who knew I pocket carried had to ask if I was carrying or not.

Now after 6 weeks on a waiting list I got a Ruger LCP, I havent been unarmed outside my home since. I am sacrificing power for weight but a .380 in the hand is always better than a .45 in the safe. The LCP sits in a Galco pocket holster and is light enough that I dont hafta do the hand in the pocket thing. I swear it weighs less than a cell phone and the average set of car keys put together.

So I guess what Im saying is that big pants usually have big deep pockets and I have found in the front pocket not only comfortable but very tactically sound as having your hand in your front pocket is a very common unthreatening movement to the average person.

BTW I dont recommend keeping your hands in your pockets if you come into contact with law enforcement. They legitimatly get real froggy when people put their hand in their pockets.

Ok some thoughts form a 4X'er I hope this helps. +1 on a good pants belt, cant get to your gun if ur pants are around ur ankles

[Mike J]

SG1 Carrying middle of back or SOB as some call it is dangerous. If you were to fall it could result in a serious injury to your central nervous system-something to consider. I don't really qualify for this thread though I could stand to lose about 20 pounds-just thought I'd raise that point

[Rock_Steady]

Mini-zombie thread!

I am 6'3" to 6'4" depending on what convenience store I am leaving. I am 290 lbs. About 60 lbs overweight with a 52" chest and a 40" waist. Summer I am packing a 38+p j-frame in a pocket holster. In the cooler times, when I can have a good cover garment without sweating all over somebody, I either have an XD-9sc or a Kimber fullsize at 3:30-4:30 IWB. Biggest problem I have is the love handles pushing the grip out into my shirt, causing some printing.

The reality of it is that I don't think anyone even notices when I carry, even if it looks like i have a library book under my shirt. Odd thing in our society, but fat makes you invisible. You look like everyone else.

[sel366]

5' 10'' 340 I do IWB with all my carry pieces at 4 o'clock. I don't print at all. I think the love handles actually help conceal the weapon. I also carry a P3at in front right pocket as a bug.

[chieftain]

Couldn't bring yourself to type that number, huh? I know how you feel.

Fair enough. 5'8" 285lbs.

I guess, I can run for President now.

Go figure.

Fred

[theotherwaldo]

One prob that hasn't been covered is weather.

Folks, it's normal down here to have 98 degrees, 98% humidity, and 15 to 35 mph winds, gusting higher. Un-tucked shirts are alternately glued to yer bod and blown up around yer ears.
Vests? You're kidding, right? And not even the mayor wears a jacket outdoors here.

That pretty much leaves pocket carry or something below the beltline.

Or doing without.

[elsullo]

Yah, thanks to the kind people who suggest losing weight! Gosh, I never thought of that! :fire:

I currently carry a Walther PPK holsterless in a front pocket. I place a "credit card wallet" in front of it so that the only printing of the loose pants is a small rectangle---never been noticed by security scrutiny. The weight and size are not a problem. I just need to regularly clean out the pocket lint from the gun.

In past years I worked a job where being caught carrying meant instant termination. I was told by co-workers that I should get a different job if I felt a need to carry (driving city bus at night in gang territory.) I agreed with them, and was resolved to get a new job IF I was ever fired!

I had great success, and comfort, carrying a Glock 19 in a low-carry inside waistband holster, canted forward with the slide just behind the hipbone (8-o'clock). Under a light "baggy-waist" jacket it did not print and was never seen, even when I was in close contact with supervisors. That is ONE advantage of being soft and fluffy!

My favorite and most comfortable carry was a three-inch barrel S&W J-frame revolver carried under the belt just forward of the hipbone "9-o'clock". We chubby guys have a "belt-groove" in which the revolver cylinder can be held snuggly in without a holster. My snubbie had the Uncle Mike's "Combat Grip" which is shaped like a banana, and besides giving excellent control, can be hooked OVER the belt to prevent movement. It also does not appear to be a gun grip, so on the two occasions I accidentally exposed it nobody noticed it. I don't know if these "Combat Grips" are still made, but they are available used at any gun show---lots of folks took them off to get pocket carry grips. If I had still had a dangerous job I would now carry one of these one either side. My useful flab is ambidextrous!........................elsullo

[chieftain]

One prob that hasn't been covered is weather.

Folks, it's normal down here to have 98 degrees, 98% humidity, and 15 to 35 mph winds, gusting higher. Un-tucked shirts are alternately glued to yer bod and blown up around yer ears.
Vests? You're kidding, right? And not even the mayor wears a jacket outdoors here.

That pretty much leaves pocket carry or something below the beltline.

Or doing without.

I am a Florida boy. Although I have lived in Arizona since the mid 70's after 10 years in the Corps, I did go back to Florida in the mid 90's for 8 years. I used to have CCW permits for both states for about 12 years, back then.

Now I don't doubt where ever your from is more humid than coastal central Florida (you know REAL coastal Florida, the east coast), and you have it hotter than we have it in Phoenix all the time.

But IWB works fine in either place. It is important what your holster is made of. I strongly recommend horsehide for the Milt Sparks holsters. Horsehide pretty much prevents the moisture, read that sweat, from coming through and doing damage to your weapons. (Glockenspielers, watch that slide lock disappear after wearing sweat for a while)

Or wear Kydex/Plastic. Tuckers the Answer and few others do use a "sandwich" and place a membrane between layers to protect the weapon from the sweat.

Oh, one other thing. At a 115-120 degree's plus, the humidity next to your holster is pretty high too. Now think how sweaty that pocket is. I have had to dry money and other papers stuck in the pocket in the summer. Both in Florida and Arizona.

Go figure.

Fred

[jakk280rem]

i also am a man of some substance and have difficulty concealing a gun properly. while standing and moving its no problem, but when i sit down my love handles print like a typewriter. i have found that a small gun worn iwb and worn as low as possible is the way to go. but you must use quality leather that is very stable. a larger frame weapon worn in the front iwb with the muzzle pointed toward my sensitive man parts with the grip parellel to my belt is also quite comfortable and aids in access while seated, but i cant bring myself to wear a gun while pointed at my raspberries.

[1KPerDay]

i cant bring myself to wear a gun while pointed at my raspberries.:D

I am 6'3" to 6'4" depending on what convenience store I am leaving.
LOL

I guess, I can run for President now.
:D

[theotherwaldo]

chieftain: The weapon is expendable. Flashing and printing is what I'm trying to avoid. The standing 40 mph updraft at the front door of my place of business makes most supposedly concealed guns print like Bigfoot if it doesn't flash 'em!

Thus, pocket carry is my choice.

[Darthbauer]

like someone on the first page said, Id go with some sort of bag if your really big.

Get something like the Jack Bauer man bag. Holds the gun and spare mags.

[mr.72]

if you are talking generally about a messenger bag, certainly there are those with holsters built in. The common "Jack Bauer bag" aka "Jack Pack" does not have a holster in it (I liked the looks and size of this bag so I bought one). It would have to be modified to accommodate a pistol in a ready fashion (add a holster, add some velcro or a zipper).

[1KPerDay]

Anyone got a pic of the jack pack? I got bored with 24 after 2 seasons of watching him and his family in constant, repeated peril. And the shaky-cam. :banghead:

[SG1]

Thanks for the advice about the MOB/SOB holster. Maybe I'll try one at 4 o'clock like some others have suggested. Do you have to buy a left handed or ambidextrious holster to draw from an IWB at 4 o'clock?

If I could just shed about 100 pounds I could wear it anywhere. ;)

[jakk280rem]

im not sure what a 'jack pack" is nor have i seen 24. but i hear good things about these. http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=4&idproduct=433 . looks manly enough to actualy wear in public.

[Malodorousroadkill]

I'm also are large gentleman, but my problem isn't so much comfort, its keeping my pants up. I got a big cheese gut, but I have no ass. Back to legs, nothing in between. Thus it is really hard to keep my pants up with something like my bulgarian makarov in IWB. A xd-9 service didn't do well owb either. I've ended up carrying a smith 638 in a Mika pocket holster. Before i buy new pants I do make sure there is room. Sitting down its hard to draw from pocket, but its nothing to take it out quickly. The palm of my hand can hide the grip, so it looks kinda like a big wallet. I am really considering suspenders. Been looking at the side clip style. They almost look like shoulder holsters. http://www.specopsbrand.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductID=43 A more tacticool style offering. I'm a big fan of lightweight overshirts. They're very popular, and if you carry in the right spot even heavy wind won't uncover your piece. That said, I'm investing in a wilderness belt today I think. I want to try something with out the tyranny of belt holes.

Good luck my brothers! Our noble girth shall maintain us through the hard times ahead whilst the skinny peasants starve!

[1KPerDay]

:D ...

[mr.72]

http://www.powerofbauer.com/

there's pics of the bag.

I bought a black one like that.

Realistically, there are two large pockets just under the flap on the outside of the bag. If you are right handed and carrying this bag across the shoulder with the bag on your right hip, you could easily draw from the forward-most pocket by simply lifting the flap and grab it. I put my keys, phone etc. in this pocket all the time and can easily get to them. The pocket is wide open though, with no closure of any kind.

If you wanted to carry a pistol in that pocket, you would likely want to sew in a holster with some kind of retention, and then add a closure to the pocket to keep it concealed. Something as basic as a coupla inches of adhesive velcro with a stitch or two to hold it in place would work, or a zipper.

BTW for $18 or so going rate these are pretty decent bags, not considering their utility for CCW. They are big enough to hold most modern wide-screen laptops (the main reason I got this one) and are simple canvas bags with a very long shoulder strap. For a messenger bag, they are pretty big. I have several messenger bags and this is about 2x the capacity of my next-biggest one.

[docmagnum357]

I am six fot tall, even, and I weigh between 285 to 295 pounds. I am a stonemason by trade, and I have a terrible time buying clothes, much less holsters. Shoulder holsters will seldom adjust to the right size. Their geometry just isn't right for someone with really massive shoulders. When everything is adjusted all the way out, most shoulder rigs I have tried put the gun a lot further forward than is desireable for concealment, almost like a chest holster. I usually carry iwb, it doesn't seem to bother me all that badly. My body shape is a little different, because of genetics and activity , I guess. I wear a size 40 waistband blue jeans, or a 42 in dress pants, because they ride higher. I am what they call "long waisted", i.e. my torso probably belongs to a person about 4 inches taller. I have to have a 19" collar on my shirt. I can't run very far, but I am pleny strong because of my trade.
As I said above, iwb carry isn't uncomfortable for me. I carry a GLOCK 23 (cringe!) in the summer, usually under a T shirt, but I could have just as easily gotten a GLOCK 20, 21, or 22. The problem for me is the weight pulling my pants down. The only two things I like about the GLOCK are the light weight and the Tennifer finsh. I love my model 19 Smith and Wesson. Believe it or not, I made a home made inside the waistband holster for my 6.5 inch 629 classic. It is not uncomfortable to carry at all, it is however, heavy.
My two cents worth on this subject are first; a handgun should be comforting, not comfortable. I refuse to carry anything for social work that I would not feel good about deer hunting with. This goes for accuracy as well as power. If it won't reliably put down a 150 lbs. whitetail deer, how on God's earth do you expect it to do the business against the most dangerous animal on earth? This limits me to anything that says " Smith and Wesson", and "Magnum" on the barrel. A GLOCK 20, an accurate 1911, a 44 special, 45 long Colt, and possibly some others, such as a .40 Smith and Wesson. It's not just about power, but accuracy, too. I do carry a GLOCK 23, But I consider it a pocket pistol when the accuracy and power are figured together. I would deer hunt with my model 15 Smith and Wesson 38 special, but not the GLOCK 23. A 158 grain semi wadcutter hollow point at 950 fps isn't all that powerful compared to the best .40 short and wimpy loads, but I know from experience it will get to the vitals on a normal sized deer and put him down quick. Accurate enough for a neck shot a 25 yards and under,too.
Second; Longer barrels are much more stable than short barrels when carried iwb. The frame and slide of an autoloader are where all the weight is, particularly with the plastic guns. The more weight and barrel/slide length you can get below the belt, the better. It is more stable, and shifts around less. This comes from a man who gets up and down off his knees literally thousands of times a day.
I have two questions for you that I ask all my carry permit students. First, If you have a permit, do you ultimately care if someone sees you packing? It is going to happen anyway, so you had better learn to deal with it in advance. Second, Have you done much hunting with a pistol? A good target grade .22 revolver or auto will do for hunting deer in a pinch, just ask any poacher, or mafia hit man. Will that Kel Tech do the Business? It's not about power, or accuracy, but about both. Same goes for weight. A Scandium frame 357 is just about useless. We are backwards in our traing nowdays. We should teach marksmanship first, and all this tactical stuff second. It has bled over to weapon design. First, get something you can hit with. A 4" barrel revolver at the least, or a "compact" service auto i.e. GlOCK 19,23 etc. Second get something that will do the business, i.e. 38 special +p or 9mm+p+ or .40 at a minimum. Third practice the fundementals Which are stance, sight picture, breath, trigger sqeeze, follow through, not spray and pray, run and gun. If you are in a panic situation, you will instinctively resort to your training. That training had better revolve around putting a major caliber bullet (or three ) through a vital organ.
To sum it up, get a real gun you can hit with. Use cartridges that will do the business. Practice until you can use the basics without thinking. Get a belt/ holster that fits you. I highly reccomend a quality multi position capable rig like the Sourdough from Simply Rugged, and if your pants fall down, get suspenders that button on to your pants. What I should have written first is pray that you won't have to shoot, and second, practice, practice, practice.

[chieftain]

DocMagnum357,

Nice selections of guns, but I didn't see what holster or belt you are carrying your CCW in/on.

At 5'8" 285lbs, I ain't no light weight. At my age of 60 it is now mostly fat.

I found weight to be a small problem WITH THE RIGHT HOLSTER.

I use a Wilderness 5 stitch belt, for about 15 years now, and now use a VMII to carry my Colt Gunsite Pistol/Government models in. a UBG Canute is what I carry my High Powers in. The Canute is very similar to the Milt Sparks VMII, much cheaper. I think the Milt Sparks is marginally better quality, but either will do well. Also there is less than a month wait for the UBG vs 20-26 week wait for a Milt Sparks.

I have another VMII that I carry my railed Kimber Warriors (2) in too.

There are several 'good' holster makers out there. But the wait for most of them is very long.

Good luck

Fred

http://www.ubgholsters.com/

http://miltsparks.com/

[JohnnyOrygun]

I too am a rather large fellow... over 300lbs and a hair over 6', I find the 4 o'clock position to be best also... although droppy left breast might work too :p
As docmagnum357 stated, my problem is the weight of the gun pulling on the belt, my remedy is to use a "garrison" type belt generally a 2" belt which I only wear with jeans. I really like my cougar for concealed carry, it pokes my "spare tire" less then my 1911. I would like to get a polymer pistol for concealed carry, such as an XD or maybe a glock, I am not a big fan of Glocks... I like safeties.. can't help it.

[TonyB]

forgot one other way I carry sometimes.I discovered this while I was recovering from surgery and had to wear sweatpants for 12 weeks..I carried my airweight in a 5.11 vest pocket.I still do sometimes.If you can stand the "urban safari"look...But i will say pocket carry is my favorite.

[JohnnyOrygun]

1Kperday you are killing me :D

I haven't really tried pocket carry since I only have the SS j frame and it's kind of heavy and my legs are just toooo fat... thunder thighs comes to mind. I haven't invested in a really good holster for concealed carry yet (I hate waiting!) but I have used the Uncle Mikes IWB holster and it works pretty good for me, but I have a different problem. I have a really long torso, so I have to get tall shirts just to keep my plumbers crack covered and I sometimes feel as though the gun will show, I do carry a leatherman though and that seems to disguise the butt of the gun. Of course it adds extra weight to my belt and makes it that much harder to keep my pants up. :banghead:

[docmagnum357]

Cheiftan,
I am slowly switching over to Sourdough holsters for my revolvers. The Sourdough is by Simply Rugged, and the name says it all. I ordered a Sourdough for my 6.5"629, and I love it. Rob will build a holster with an extra belt slot so it can be used as a cross draw as well as. He will add what he calls "inside out" snaps for ten dollars. These allow the Sourdough to be used iwb. So you get a three position holster. Not a Three Persons, but a three position. The Sourdough is available with different belt slot widths, and I ordered mine with 2" slots. These are the biggest that will fit through Carharts or Levis. The sourdough is a pancake holster. He also makes what he calls the "Tribute" which is basically a Roy Baker type pancake holster for autos. I will probably buy one of his belts (2" ) as soon as I can scrape together the scratch. Most of his holsters are versatile, and inexpensive for what you get. Wait is about 6 weeks plus.

[Phydeaux642]

I look at my extra girth as a tactical advantage over the skinny guys. In a SHTF scenario I have a reserve which willl allow me to outlast the little man.:neener:

That being said, I pocket carry, I use a Smartcarry holster and am going to try a belly band for the fun of it.

[1KPerDay]

I look at my extra girth as a tactical advantage over the skinny guys. In a SHTF scenario I have a reserve which willl allow me to outlast the little man.I made a similar claim in my first post; however we must be realistic and recognize the increased threat of cannibalism. Nicely marbled meat will likely be a premium. Hence the need for CCW. :D

Those who have the Mika pocket holster... does it really disguise the profile of a revolver? I was thinking that the pocketholsters.com design made the most sense to me, but I haven't tried either.

[PennsyPlinker]

Most of you guys are amateurs! I am 6'2" and 430. Most of that is bone and muscle, with just enough fat to keep me jolly. I carry IWB when I have to at the 4:30 - 5:00 position, but being that I live in the Free Commonwealth of PA, I have gone to OC most of the time with an OWB holster for just about all my pieces. I also keep a Kel Tec PF-9 in my front pocket when I need real deep concealment.

[PennsyPlinker]

I look at my extra girth as a tactical advantage over the skinny guys. In a SHTF scenario I have a reserve which willl allow me to outlast the little man.

In all seriousness, it makes for some real good organic body armor. Rounds that would go right through to the organs of a skinny guy aren't even going to make it past the first layer on some of us!

[21H40]

One of the best firearms instructors I've ever met suffered from "Don'lap" disorder (his belly done lapped over his belt). He used a modified crossdraw, umm... front and center or I guess 12 o'clock, and his belly and untucked shirt concealed his pistol very effectively.

I was impressed. I thought that was a great way to use his shape to his advantage :D

BTW: Telling someone to "loose weight" here is like advising a gunshot victim to "don't get hit" ... sound theory, but useless here.

[JohnnyOrygun]

1KPerDay I am rolling on the floor laughing. I never thought about the cannibalism aspect... I need more ammo! I am seriously Grade A Prime here...:D

PennsyPlinker I have plenty of "Organic Body Armor" Love that, I am well armored, too well armored perhaps, main battle tank armor :scrutiny:

[moooose102]

1kperday, the diet you want is one that gives you more food than you can eat. there are actually diets like that. but your general doctor is not going to be the one to give it to you. i see on tv where they get some kind of trainers coming in to help folks loose weight. they have this super food diet, with as much walking / excersize as you can do. it does work. but i do not know where to send you for it. i took the HARD route, i had a gastric by pass. it ALMOST KILLED ME! think SERIOUSLY before you resort to that! good luck loosing the weight. now back to your original question. i never liked shoulder holsters when i was big. and i know what you mean about the waist band. that is usually a tight area already. best i could tell you is a pocket gun. if you wear a suit, you have a lot of choices for guns. if not, you will need a very small gun. something like a bersa 380, kel tec p3at / ruger LCP(380) or kel tec pf9 (9mm). something in that size bracket. i have no idea what price you are looking at. if you have some extra cash. you may want to check out the sig or glock, or xd line. they are a better class of gun, and a little pricier.

[GSDFAN]

The Clipdraw is the big man's best friend when used with an ultra thin semi-auto such as Keltec 9MM, or the new Ruger .380. There are several CC options, it just takes a little more imagination for a big guy.

[robmkivseries70]

HI,
First, an empathetic" Don't Quit ! " for those of us, self included, working on our fitness (weight) level. I now live in a CC state and will be following this thread closely.
Best,
Rob :)

[1KPerDay]

Well I'm trying a S&W Mod 37 in a DeSantis Nemesis pocket holster today... first real day CCW. More info here for those interested:

http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=364678

[TurboJeff]

Hi all fellow "portly" gents...

I'm 6"0' and 260lbs. I prefer the OWB/IWB holsters while wearing a loose "dress shirt" over a polo or T-shirt. I'm also not afraid to wear vests. The vests I wear are made specifically for CC. They don't look too much like a tactical style vest. They are sold here in a local gunshop. Very thin and comfortable fabric. I've got one in tan, black, and grey. Tag says Smith and Alexander. I think they look more like "I'm fat, and covering it up" more than "I've got a gun!!"

That said, I still prefer a bigger shirt covering a smaller shirt. I like to carry IWB or OWB. The key for me seems to be the belt. I've got a tannish/brown reinforced belt from Gould and Goodrich. Very sturdy, but sometimes, the buckle tends to "cut in". The belt I really like is the Wilderness 5 stitch reinforced. I wear a size 44 in that belt. I know at the wilderness web site, you can order "plus" sizes. My favorite IWB holtster is a Galco Royal Guard. Very similar to the MS Summer Special. I like it at about 4:00o'clock. I have one for my Glock 30, and a full sized 1911.

I also pocket carry a Kel-tec P32 in a nemesis. Sometimes I will carry a model 36 J frame, but it is heavy. I want to get a light weight J frame in the near future.

[W Turner]

At 6'8" and 375, carrying requires serious thought.

So far the best combos I have come up with are either pocket carrying a j frame or carrying a 1911 IWB using a Milt Sparks SSII.

W

[chingon]

I did not go through this whole thread, but I find abdomen carry with a clip in iwb. It lays accross my right leg when I sit down, but it's the best concealment I can get. Side or 4:00 carry is pushed out too much and to me is too obvious. So it's not a one size fits all, but that's just what works for me.

[mr.72]

i would think someone 6'8" and 375lb could pretty much pocket carry a Desert Eagle without problems.

fwiw I'm not really very fat but I have a friend who's a little bigger and he carries in a Smartcarry, I didn't have a clue for years that he was carrying. I have a smartcarry on the way. ymmv.

[1KPerDay]

what's that?

EDIT: Ah, the thunderbritches guys!

http://www.smartcarry.com/

[Stevie-Ray]

I'm 6'4" and 250lbs and pocket carry definitely works best for comfort. But I find that I can stand the H&K USPC or Kimber UCDP in an Uncle Mike's Sidekick IWB as long as I'm not going to spend every moment sitting down. If driving, I'll switch sides to cross-draw. I even carry this way when biking sometimes.

[RustyShackelford]

For general CC use, consider to that a garment's color, thickness/design, shape, etc can aid in concealment. :D

That goes if you are 100lbs or 400lbs...;)

Many "gun stuff" companies like 5.11, Woolrich, etc have new shirts, fabrics designed to conceal weapons. Some look God awful, :barf:, but a few may have merit for long periods of CC...

Rusty

[kc_tailgater]

I too am a member of the High Horsepower club! :)

I generally carry a Beretta 92FS in a fanny pack.

My boss introduced me to this style of concealment. At first, I thought it to be a bit silly, but after trying just about everything else, I found it to be the best way to carry.

I don't care what people think or say as I am protecting myself and my family. My daughter calls it my "murse" (man-purse). I usually wear it around my waist, but for quick trips to the grocery store, etc, I have been know to carry it like a purse. I bought a big enough one that holds my wallet and my blackberry.

I carry in my car when I travel to different job sites for work, but generally do not carry into the job site since most strongly discourage it, and I generally feel safe once I arrive. I find the fanny pack a convenient way to carry my weapon from the house to the car, etc. If I stop off say at Walmart or a parts house, I simply sling the fanny pack over my shoulder....

If I am forced, and I do mean forced to dress up, I use a Fobus belt holster which a wear slightly rearward of my right hip. I have found this to work very well, but you then cannot take off your sport coat until you are safely back in your own domain.

I also carry a Bersa Thunder 380CC on a belt holster. If I can wear my shirt untucked (which as a big guy I do 90% of the time), I use a left handed holster and place it in the small of my back on the right side. I found that easier when reaching behind to turn my palm towards my back to retrieve the weapon. It rides and hides welll carrying that way and is not bad even when seated or driving, though it is rather difficult to retrieve while strapped into the car, but I usually have my fanny pack laying on the seat next to me while driving.



I hope this helps.

[jmellow]

Im a very big guy, so I just tuck my FNP-45 under my gut and it stays put. LOL JK..in all seriousness, I need something too, I just got my CHL class done (HOW BORING WAS THAT!) I'm guessing one of those belt bags for when I wear jeans, but at the moment, I don't think my FNP 45 is exactly good for CCW, I got it mainly for being in the truck, and home defense. I am looking into a compact glock later on once I bounce back from the cheddar this baby set me back.As far as losing the weight. I am limited because of a drunk driver hitting me, but I workout at Lifetime Fitness start of 20 mins on resistance bands to warm up, then 1 hour on weights, mainly upper body and lower back since my legs get a workout just from walking, and I can press the whole rack easily. Then I do 1 hour of cardio in the pool I have lost 64 lbs in about 7 months. I also just cut down on carbs, and eat a high fiber, high protein, moderate GOOD fat diet. Alot of water, low sodium, and eat alot of vegetables, lean fish and chicken. I noticed if I chew my food longer, it helps in feeling full faster.

[Mad Magyar]

My daughter calls it my "murse" (man-purse).
Damn it, I just spilled my 1st cup of coffee on my keyboard.....:D:D:D

[svxapeal]

I am a bigger chick, at about 5'10 with plenty of curves, I find I can conceal a GP100 with a 4" barrel under my ever day clothes in paddle holster at 3:00. It isn't the love handles that give me a fit, since they actually help with concealment, it is the butt of the grips pushing into the breast. I also trade off and carry a 1911 officers in a bianchi carrylok. My curves make it disappear completely with zero uncomfort.

Caryn

P.S. This is for fall/winter carry as I have not carried in summer yet

[Gwise55]

I'm 6 foot and 225. I've been using a thunderware (like smartcarry) with a taurus 617. can't see it at all, but not the most comfortable to me. I know people that swear by them though.
I recently got a com-tac Mtac for my kimber ultra carry II. At 3:30 to 4:00 it is extremely comfortable and I can conceal it with an untucked over shirt (buttoned or unbuttoned). I think I could conceal with just a t-shirt, but haven't gone out of the house with that one yet.
The Mtac is the most comfortable holster I've found.

[jaholder1971]

I went on Safari once but people kept ketting confused and pointing their rifles at me. Guess I shouldn't have worn that "rhino-grey" suit. LOL


Then don't go to to the beach.

There I was, laying on my towel when some people wearing GREENPEACE T-Shirts doused me with water, pushed me back into the surf screaming "Call SeaWorld, he's dying!"

[1KPerDay]

Lol :d

[zombienerd]

I have a few questions first...

Does the "gut" hang over the front of the pants? If not, then a forward in pant holster could be ok...

How about your back? Small of the back holsters are comfortable, don't print too bad, and as long as it's still reachable could be a viable alternative...

Not to be funny, but I saw it mentioned in another thread (nudist camp one), about belly carrying.. I know there are belly straps... Just strap it on over your undershirt and under your overshirt... a quick lift and you have it.

[Orange_Magnum]

Fat men have deep pockets and carry a snubby there, along with their candy bar.

[rondog]

I too, am a "girthy individual, and I've had good luck with my Beltster. You have to remove the rivets on your jeans though. He makes them for any gun you have. Reasonable price and very quick service. http://www.banderagunleather.com/

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/guns/DSCN1469.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/guns/DSCN1468.jpg

[herohog]

I am a big guy AND have to use a wheelchair so waist carry is out for me. I use either a horizontal shoulder rig (open carry) or I carry in a Roman Leather Collection CCW vest (here is my wife modeling the different CCW vests we own (http://herohog.com/images/guns/CCW%20Clothes/)) or, and this is what I use most, I carry in a E. S. Ramey CCW man-bag (http://esramey.com/index.php/cPath/21).

[Phydeaux642]

Fat men have deep pockets and carry a snubby there, along with their candy bar.

You have no idea what you are talking about. You don't carry a candy bar in your pocket, it will melt.:neener:

[BhmBill]

A lil old, i know... but I didn't wanna start another thread...

Can anyone recommend a right handed 4" revolver (S&W 581) shoulder rig that has 1 or 2 speedloader pouches? I typically wear over shirts and when I get my ccw, i'd like it out of my waistband.

I'm 6'4 350lbs or so...

[Isher]

Can anyone recommend a right handed 4" revolver (S&W 581) shoulder rig that has 1 or 2 speedloader pouches? I typically wear over shirts and when I get my ccw, i'd like it out of my waistband.

I'm 6'4 350lbs or so...

My daily carry is a CZ P-01 in a High Noon "Undertaker" rig, the weapon

To port and a two clip carrier to starboard.

It is extremely well made, is very comfortable, and has worn like iron.

Check 'em out.

isher

[Meadows117]

Well I'm 6'2" 275, I can still pack a government 1911 IWB at 330-4 with a good belt. I'm built oddly though 38" Waist 56L suit jacket.

[Rparker762]

Despite what people say, you can be fat and healthy. I'm 5'11 361lbs, I used to be a gym rat then when schedules changed the eating didn't. Bad cholesterol but otherwise clean bill o health. I've found the simpler the better. I carry a XD 40 service model in a DeSantis paddle holster, strong side at 1600. Just toss on an unbuttoned shirt over a black t shirt and no prob.

[Knightrider03m]

:confused:
I carry on my waist just like everybody else. I have both a IWB and OWB holster and both feel right too me.

[gimlet1/21]

I also suffer from dunlaps desease, my gut has dun lapped my belt, try a PF-9 w/ belt clip at the 6:00 position. I known everyone will say ,"what if you fall , you'll break your tail bone!" Well it's been thirty years since I've fallen flat on my a**; I think it's worth the risk.

[Revolver Ocelot]

I'm working on it... I'm even on 2 diets. One just didn't give me enough food.
you could stop one diet, seems to me you'd only be eating half as much food

[krs]

Rondog: "I too, am a "girthy individual, and I've had good luck with my Beltster"

Ron, did it take a while for the small gun loop to stretch, or did you have to soak it and let it dry with gun in it?

I have a Beltster supposedly for a 1911 too, but the loop is so short and tight that it's near impossible to get my pistol into it when the belt is on and tight enough to hold up my pants. Yours looks like he made the loop diffrently - a lot more loop there.

I'd about given up on it until seeing your photo.

[bigione]

If you don't expect a fast draw situation, try a Krammer Leather mesh fabric tank top with a holster under each arm. I wear mine with snap front shirts for general going to town days, and even under white shire and tie on Sundays. About $50 I carry a very large frame 45 ACP under one arm and a spare magazine under the other.

[kanook]

I am 5'10" and about 240lbs, I use to have a scrub board belly but now its a washing machine with spin cylce.:) I carry a Kimber ultra carry on my hip or a revolver in my front pocket. Another thing I noticed is not to carry my wallet in my back pocket, get a more level sit and is easier on the back:D

[chuckusaret]

I have weighed the same since high school , 5' 10" 165 to 180. Darn, I graduated in 1953. I use a IWB at about the one o'clock position, works great for me.

[Mp7]

Don´t call me fat!
I´m merely robust.
AND i carry!

:-)

Jus kiddin.

EDIT:

Since i´m not really "of size" myself, but a food-lover,
we should transform this thread into a BBQ favorite marinade thread! :)

Great read, thx. :)

[owen]

I'm 5'10", 245 pounds.

I carry a glock 17 at 3:00 in a Comp-Tac Minotaur. With an untucked T-shirt or a hoodie, the gun disappears

[1KPerDay]

Another thing I noticed is not to carry my wallet in my back pocket, get a more level sit and is easier on the back

If I had anything in my wallet I'd worry about it. But I don't. :D

I have weighed the same since high school , 5' 10" 165 to 180.
Perhaps you were looking for the "CCW for skinny dudes" thread? LOL

Have a cheeseburger. :D ;)

[Duke of Doubt]

I got chunky for awhile. Man, it's easier to do everything again since I blew all that extra weight out my ass. But while I was heavy, I found small of back carry, including inside rear waistband without holster, very comfortable. The extra folds sort of cradled the gun and kept it in place. Since losing the weight I have to be careful with unholstered rear waistband carry, as the gun will sometimes shift or even fall. So I tend to use a small of back holster by Bianchi if significant body movement is anticipated.

[bigfatdave]

we should transform this thread into a BBQ favorite marinade thread!The one I make myself, of course. You don't actually buy marinades, do you?

On-Topic, I'm 6'3" and about 325# ... I can conceal IWB at the 3:30-4:00 position, and don't have to worry too much about what I'm concealing (Walther PPS or Taurus pt111 disappears).
You may want to look into more comfortable pants (I know, work pants may be impossible to change) and longer/fuller shirts.
MrsBFD can't tell if I'm packing, and she knows where it would be.

As far as off-body carry, I have a Maxpedition fatboy on the way for MrsBFD, as she really can't carry on-body unless we drop down to NAA mini-revolver sizes.

[kanook]

then it would be called "clevage carry":D

[bigfatdave]

That is exactly where she would carry a NAA, actually.

[winston smith]

I gained about 20% in weight between my 30s and 50s. I can't carry in a belly band, and medium sized guns are uncomfortable, but my Walthers PP still fits.

[1KPerDay]

*Update*

I carried a Smith 37 in a DeSantis nemesis pocket holster for a few months, but after a while the holster came out with the gun more often than not. So I got a Ruger LCP and used the same holster for it... works a treat. The gun is nice and flat. I ordered a Mika pocket holster for the j-frame and it finally came yesterday... I dropped the 37 in it and it works really well also.

I never thought I'd feel like the 37 was too big but after carrying that LCP for a few months... wow.

but the mika really is as good as people say, at least for now. the gun seems to jump right out of the holster. I'll see how it works in a few weeks.

For fat lazy dudes, pocket carry is the way to go. At least for this fat lazy dude. :D

[W Turner]

I'm 6'8" and 360 lbs. I pocket carry a j frame 90% of the time. The rest of the time I carry a 1911 in a Milt Sparks SSII. Just seems to work the best for me.

I also use a Maxpedition Jumbo for off body carry at times as well. Comes in handy when you have kids, most people dont' give you a second look.

W

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

IWB will just add strain the already-taxed pant & belt.

I'm a big fan of paddle (OWB) holsters, and a particularly big fan of the Gould & Goodrich paddles:

http://gouldusa.com/products/productLine_catType.php?type=Paddle+Holster+%26+Comfort+Paddle+Holster&line=Gold+Line+Concealment+Holsters%2C+Belts+%26+Accessories

Click on the "Comfort Paddle" choices there (one is brown leather, and one is black leather) - here is the description for the comfort paddles:

Line
Gold Line Concealment Holsters, Belts & Accessories
Type
Paddle Holster & Comfort Paddle Holster
Description
More clearance from upper body than regular paddle holster. More comfortable for women or full-bodied men. Flexible wings on paddle for custom fit. Suede lined paddle with non-slip backing.

These are very high quality holsters.

You could probably get away with "SmartCarry" as well.