[Afy]

of reloading materials....

Cost of 260 Remington Dies (http://www.armurerie-esp.fr/outils-jeux-doutils-rechargement/jeux-doutils/d39outils-competition-categorie-p-6527.html?osCsid=36c5216a34fc18432bff1403f21565ec):what:

[Synergy]

I didn't do a currency conversion, but you could find a friend in a another country to buy it and ship it to you. Just not in the US since it may cost more due to our weak dollar to the Euro.

[BoilerUP]

211+ Euro?!?!?! That's over 324 US dollars!

:eek:

[Afy]

Yup... UK is no better... Italy and germany are worse...:banghead::banghead::banghead:

Wait till you check the ammo prices...

I paid 34 Euros for a box of Sierra MK 190gr bullets.. $18 at Cabelas.... :(:(

Powders... VV runs at about 60 Euros a kilo, while Vectan Tubal at about 70-90. Those are the only real choices you have....:barf:

Primers average about 4 Euros per 100

It is fairly expensive to shoot... even if you reload.

[RyanM]

Yeah, I'd have someone in America buy them for you, and mail 'em, if customs will allow it. http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=552285

Don't look at the currency conversions too much, though. Given what little I know about the European economy, those prices actually sound about right, given the difference in demand.

A $100 TV in America costs £100 in the UK, a $15,000 car will run you £15,000, a $25 bottle of whiskey is £25 (with regional differences, like Canadian whiskey has a smaller number price here, while Irish whiskey has a smaller number price [but still a higher actual cost with the exchange rate] there). And the minimum wage is soon going to be in the range of $7 an hour, while in England it's like £7 an hour or something.

And of course, those prices in the rest of Europe are going to be closer to the price in GBP than USD. So €34 = £27. Given the actual 1-1 exchange rate between USD and GBP when buying things from a store, that's still a big hike, but explicable by demand. VV powder here is about $25 per pound, which is $55 per kilo, so you're actually getting a great deal there (£47 per kilo, or £21 per pound), probably due to your relative proximity to Finland. €4 for primers = £3.15. They're $2.50 per 100 now, so once again, not that huge of a hike with the economies taken into account.

Actually, a lot of American companies are well aware of this, and will double their prices for buyers in the UK. I know a guy in Scotland who's starting a manufacturing business. His Stateside supplier of some of the materials charges $60 per kilo for American customers, £60 per kilo for Scottish customers.

[rc109a]

Is it legal to send the dies overseas from america? If so I would be looking for help on this forum to satisfy your habits. At least for the hardware portion. I think your stuck with those prices on powder and primers though...

[Soybomb]

I believe midway sells internationally http://www.intlmidway.com/intl/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?SaleItemID=110018

Looks like the minimum order is $500. A little pricey but it looks like you could get a ton more for your money than buying locally.

[Afy]

I have thought about getting someone in the US to buy the for me... shipping is fairly easy for non ammunition/weapons...
problem being I dont know anyone with a firearms license...

[Afy]

Midway International..... Customs Duty + Paperwork

France has a few decent champaignes... and healthcare... but that is it

[Mal H]

That's not sticker shock, Afy, that's sticker electrocution!!

Redding dies are good, but not that good.

problem being I dont know anyone with a firearms license...It's not clear why a license of any type would be needed on either side of the pond. What do you mean?

[socaldan]

NO WONDER the french won't fight.

[Afy]

NO WONDER the french won't fight.

:rolleyes:

That even though I am not french and not a francophile... is hitting below the belt. History hasnt been kind to them...

But yes I have yet to find a MAS for sale in France... maybe that is saying something...;)

[Afy]

MalH

It's not clear why a license of any type would be needed on either side of the pond. What do you mean?

To buy dies etc... dont you need a license? When I lived in wonderful MA even owning fired brass without a license was illegal. At least that is what I was told at S&W

[cracked butt]

NO WONDER the french won't fight.
That's some knee-slapping funny stuff until you consider that its probably easier to buy an evil black rifle without the neutered magazines in France than it is in 'SOCAL' right now.
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To buy dies etc... dont you need a license? When I lived in wonderful MA even owning fired brass without a license was illegal. At least that is what I was told at S&W


Nope, no license needed for anything. Some people get a Curio and Relics license to get a 'dealer' discount at Midway, but from what I've seen, the discount isn't as good anymore- I've let my license lapse as I wasn't seeing as much of a benifit as I was a few years ago.
Midway International..... Customs Duty + Paperwork
How bad is the customs duty and paperwork.

I'm wondering about the person to person shipment from the US to France- does that involve customs?

One of the things I'm thinking about is international sales over auction sites- if its possible to buy reloading equipment in France on Ebay, then its probably kosher to ship items to France? Not sure, just thinkingout loud.

[Mal H]

To buy dies etc... don't you need a license?Yes, but they are licenses with pictures of Hamilton, Jackson, Lincoln, Washington, etc. on them. ;)

When I lived in wonderful MA even owning fired brass without a license was illegal.I could be wrong, but I don't think Massachusetts is quite that Draconian.

[socaldan]

HEY...CRACKED BUTT...you're right!!! :fire: :banghead: :cuss:

[Afy]

Export licenses, import licenses, customs etc...

[Storydude]

What is too keep someone here in the States from buying it for you, throwing the die set into a USPS International Express Box, and mailing it to you as "Machine parts"?

[Storydude]

Looks like USPS says 30 USD to ship, will arrive in 6-10 Business Days.

[CBS220]

They're simple tools. Surely they don't require licenses to own or ship?

I pay $40 or so for a good set of dies and all the accoutrements... I realize Europe is a much more expensive place than the US, but that's ridiculous!

[cracked butt]

I'll ask my wife tonight if she knows anything about importing/exporting of machine tools- she used to buy machine tools from Japan, Switzerland, Germany, and UK on a regular basis on her job.

[Afy]

Given the amount of stuff I need to buy, in addition to various odds and ends I might even just decide to pop over my self, buy what I need, check it in... and get back to france... Tickets arent that expensive currently

[Mal H]

True. I traded a Redding 30-06 die set for a round trip ticket to London about a month ago.

:D

[cracked butt]

Hmmm. Talked to my wife- the work she did was through a third party which took care of manifests, customs, etc. She says that all ofthe machine tools she had shipped in from Europe or shipped back had to go through customs.

I'm wondering about US/international mail though...