having one heck of a problem loading .223


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kennedy
May 7, 2008, 08:58 PM
using varget and a lee auto disk, finnally figured it out to get consistant charges, wack the hopper with the handle of a screw driver to fill up the disk, then hold the handle down(ram up) and wack the powder charger with the handle of screw driver and now am getting 25.5 grs every load. took a while to figure it out.

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ricciardelli
May 7, 2008, 09:02 PM
That's probably why Lyman puts a "knocker" on the front of their 55 measure...

SSN Vet
May 7, 2008, 09:14 PM
Make sure your rifle charging die is set up so that it fully strokes the Auto-disk....

In my "rythm", I stroke the case up, and give two taps on the front of the disk with my left index finger.

I know nothing about Varget, but W748 and H335 are both good powders for 223 and they both meter very well for me.

stubbicatt
May 7, 2008, 09:24 PM
I find that Varget measures better from the so called "Perfect Powder Measure" which does not like ball powders, but excels with the short cut extruded powders.

YMMV.

mkonops
May 7, 2008, 09:30 PM
+1 on the Perfect. I really like Varget, but it doesn't like my pro autodisk so much. The good old Lee Perfect does a fine job.

Redhat
May 7, 2008, 09:33 PM
Yet again on the Lee PPM.

I've also read that folks who use varget for competition, also favor a powder drop tube when loading .223 rounds.

As has already been mentioned, ball powders such as H335 meter great through the auto disk.

Good luck

ForneyRider
May 8, 2008, 12:50 PM
I use the Lee PP and Auto Disk for .22-250 and H-Varget.
Both work great, I tap with my finger.

I have/use the double disk. I have the adjustable bar, but my dad hasn't done his part of the shooting, so I am waiting.

I use the H-Varget for 8x57 and .375H&H as well with the Perfect Powder.

I tried IMR 4350 in PP with not much success so went back to dipping/trickling. I hear the RCBS Uniflow has same issues.

RL19, RL22 work okay in the Lee PP, but a lot of tapping and crunching noises going on.

dagger dog
May 8, 2008, 03:58 PM
I shoot Varget in .308 Win. run it through my Uniflow, it is very crunchie, cuts a lot of granules, same with RE15. But it runs very well through the Perfect.

ftierson
May 8, 2008, 04:41 PM
I use the Lee Perfect Powder Measure for almost all powders.

You must adjust the tension of the drum in it's seat, especially with ball/spherical powders.

I use a lot of H335, AA 2230-C, H414, WC-846 and other similar ball powders with absolutely no problems from the Lee PPM.

The only ball powder that I have to be really careful with is H110. Since the balls are so small, the drum tension on the PPM must be kept quite tight to prevent the balls from infiltrating into the drum seat and binding the measure. As a matter of fact, the tension must be kept tight enough that the measure becomes less than completely pleasant to use. But it will still work OK...

Forrest

redneck2
May 8, 2008, 05:08 PM
That's probably why Lyman puts a "knocker" on the front of their 55 measure...
That reminds me of one of my all time favorite movie lines from Young Frankenstein

Terri Garr getting out of the coach....

Grandpa Shooter
May 8, 2008, 06:43 PM
having one heck of a problem loading .223

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using varget and a lee auto disk, finnally figured it out to get consistant charges, wack the hopper with the handle of a screw driver to fill up the disk, then hold the handle down(ram up) and wack the powder charger with the handle of screw driver and now am getting 25.5 grs every load. took a while to figure it out.


Ah, but grasshopper, the journey is the only thing that you learn from. You had only to comtemplate the problem, apply a logical solution, and now you may continue on the journey down the long road to re-loading in the seventh level.

Good job!

RustyFN
May 8, 2008, 07:18 PM
I have shot Varget, H335 and W748 in my 223. I thought W748 and H335 shot just as good or better and the meter excellent in the Pro auto disk.
Rusty

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