AR 10.000rd Torture test
Texas Gunman
August 17, 2003, 08:31 PM
http://groups.msn.com/THEGUNROOM/weaponsonly1.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=11065&LastModified=4675411320245261392
And still going & going.
TG :cool:
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ether
August 17, 2003, 08:43 PM
I only skimmed the article, but I did not see any mention of a chrome-lined bore. Surely a chrome lined bore would not have shot out so soon....
444
August 17, 2003, 08:50 PM
I had read that before. It is interesting. If I was doing that (which I am) I would much prefer to expend 10k rounds training. I think I could do that in fairly short order, but certainly not in one day.
I probably am not far behind that number with my #1 AR.
Blain
August 17, 2003, 10:48 PM
After the first 1000 rounds, we gathered around to watch Keogh open the gun, remove the bolt and carrier, and begin to swab out the barrel. One thousand rounds of ammo produces a lot of greasy fowling, and it took plenty of patches and many passes through the bore to get it clean.
I wonder how well the gun would have worked if it had not had those 1000 round cleanings???
Kaylee
August 17, 2003, 10:54 PM
1000 rounds is.. what? Thirty-odd full mags? Or about four and a half times the standard ammo load? I'd think most guys could manage swabbing out the bore and wiping off the bolt carrier once or twice in there.
Seems adequate.
-K
Andrew Wyatt
August 17, 2003, 11:43 PM
I wonder how well the gun would have worked if it had not had those 1000 round cleanings???
*shrug* most end users of the AR are not khat chewing, illiterate, hungry, teenagers in poor health. They're capable of cleaning their weapon every once and awhile.
Quartus
August 18, 2003, 12:03 AM
greasy fowling
Ugh. I'm not eating any chicken dinners at HIS house!
:what:
(That's FOULING, sir.)
Ian
August 18, 2003, 12:23 AM
Well, I would think a "torture test" would subject the gun to the worst possible conditions...or at least not give it any help. Still an interesting report, though.
tac17
August 18, 2003, 12:26 AM
I wonder how well the gun would have worked if it had not had those 1000 round cleanings???
I once ran 2500 rounds of Wolf ammo through an M4 without cleaning it just to see if it would take it, I have a phobia about dirty guns and just had to clean it. Never had a malfunction, which pretty well surprised me considering Wolf isn't exactly the cleanest shooter. At the end of the 2500 it was still running as good as it was clean. It might not have made it to 10,000 rounds without a cleaning but they can run a good long while without attention.
Ugh. I'm not eating any chicken dinners at HIS house!
Definitely not the place to go if you are on a diet. :D
ACP
August 18, 2003, 01:02 PM
That's a pretty old article. Note the Colt suffered throat erosion at 9,000 rounds.
Art Eatman
August 18, 2003, 01:05 PM
ACP, for the rate of fire described in the article, I'd say it was doing pretty good...
Art
FPrice
August 18, 2003, 01:13 PM
"That's a pretty old article. Note the Colt suffered throat erosion at 9,000 rounds."
I would bet that a LOT of this erosion had to do with the volume of fire in a relatively short period of time. Each round will wear a throat and barrel some infinitesmal amount. But continued firing through a warm/hot barrel will wear a larger amount. I imagine that if you spread those 10,000 rounds over a greater priod of time, the erosion would have been much less.
ACP
August 18, 2003, 02:15 PM
of course it did. I'm not knocking Colt. In fact, I was just re-reading that article this past weekend. And was it here or on 1911forum.com that I just referenced it? Anyway, I doubt the Colt is still "going and going." Maybe with a new barrel.
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