What is the smallest caliber you've ever used on big game?


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seeker_two
August 17, 2003, 10:36 PM
(By big game, I mean Texas-sized whitetail deer or larger...)

Arguements about "using enough gun" and "ethics" aside, what is the smallest, lightest caliber that you've used to dispatch a big-game animal? Be sure to list the distance & type of load used, if possible.

(...and don't say anything that isn't past your states statutes of limitation, either... :evil: )

Thanks in advance...

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Preacherman
August 17, 2003, 11:04 PM
.22 LR on springbok, in South Africa, during a culling exercise. Range was about 3 feet - shot down from a tree into the neck as the springbok passed underneath. Went down immediately - neck broken (the bullet entered between two vertebrae).

Art Eatman
August 18, 2003, 09:49 AM
My first-ever deer I killed was a very patient and volunteering doe, shot in the white spot. Range of maybe 20 to 25 yards. My uncle's Sako .222; don't know the load but it probably was a 50- or 55-grain bullet. I don't really think of that event as "hunting".

Art

one-shot-one
August 18, 2003, 11:12 AM
one in/out-law. has shot 2 deer with .22 wmr less tha 30 yrds thur neck drt.
one older women i use to work with used .223 keep her shots less than 100 yrds used mostly neck shots harvested many deer with one shot each
me i would (for sport hunting) would stay with .243 and up dependent on distance expected for shots. east tex. shots under 100 yards many under 50 yards .30-30, .243, .44mag all good, hill contry, west tex. .25-06, .270, .308, .30-06, 7mm mag. all guns named are ones i have used, not all have i taken game with. i have harvested deer with both the .270 and .30-06.

St. Gunner
August 18, 2003, 11:20 AM
.22lr Stinger into the head of a 180lb dressed boar hog at 11yds.

I've used a .222 on deer and hogs without a hitch. 50gr softpoint

Today I use a .270 or .280 most of the time, or a 7.62x39.

Mike Irwin
August 18, 2003, 01:09 PM
.32 Winchester Special.

It was a Winchester factory load. Dropped a nice doe with one shot.

Keith
August 18, 2003, 02:12 PM
My son shot his first few deer with a .223. I backed him up with a larger rifle, but the .223 was adequate with the shots I let him take.

A friend hunts deer with a .30 carbine handgun (AMT?) and does fine. He used FMJ's and shoots them through the shoulders - not what I would choose, but it works for him...

Keith

Intune
August 18, 2003, 02:56 PM
.243 sure has worked well for me on TX whitetails.

Larry Ashcraft
August 18, 2003, 02:57 PM
I have a cousin who, in his younger days, used to take pronghorn with a 22-250. Actually quite adequate, but illegal in CO.

Hey, ranchers gotta eat, and beef is worth money. ;)

Dr.Rob
August 18, 2003, 04:15 PM
.380 on an antelope in Wyoming. I've told the story before, I thought it was dead. Was wrong not only was it not dead itwas barely wounded. It jumped up, I drew, fired 3 shots got 3 hits.

#1 380 isn't a heavy enough gun for breaking bone.

#2 get through the ribs and it doesn't matter.

.243 is as low as I'd go in bullet diameter, 30-30 is the lowest powered rifle I ever used.

JShirley
August 18, 2003, 05:25 PM
I carried a .223 in the woods once. Had a shot at a nice, fat doe, but delayed, waiting for the perfect neck shot in case the li'l .22 didn't penetrate much. She ran.

Next time, I used the .45-70. :)

Mike Irwin
August 19, 2003, 03:51 PM
Rob,

.380?

As in .380 ACP?

Why would anyone try to kill an antelope with a .380 ACP?

coldshot03/04
August 20, 2003, 02:55 AM
243cal

Art Eatman
August 20, 2003, 10:07 AM
Mike, sounds like a coup de grace on an antelope that was down from a rifle shot, but not yet dead...

:), Art

scotjute
August 20, 2003, 10:54 AM
Whitetail spike using a .30 cal. M-1 carbine soft-point at 75 yds. Broke both front legs and deer ran off. Missed 4 or 5 shots at fleeing deer. Finally ran it down and killed it. I no longer hunt with .30 cal. carbine.

RandyB
August 20, 2003, 11:22 AM
.44 special. I put down deer with a .357, after they had been hit with something else. The .44 was a 200 grain LHP. The deer was a small doe shot at about 15 feet. I fired four times. (I had been asleep resting against a tree when the deer woke me up by walking up on the back side of the same tree. All shots were double actioned)

shots one and two impacted on the shoulder blade and went along the spine with out breaking bones.

Shot three impacted the deer as she ran down the trail and went between the ribs, into her lungs and did not exit the body.

Shot four hit a sapling and buried itself in the wood.


The deer ran +200 yards, no blood. I unloaded my gun and was going to pitch it into the woods. Realizing that I could sell it and get "something else", I holstered it and was headed for the truck, on the very same path the deer ran down. Found my old man, who said "Saw the deer you shot at. She was running hard up the hill, too fast for me to shoot." Then he proceeded to give me a hard time, until he pointed out she fell just over the hill.

The damage to muscle tissue and lungs was extensive, but since then I always a JHP or SWC and avoid large bones when using a handgun.

cooch
August 23, 2003, 05:36 AM
Doesn't count as "game" , but .22lr high velocity solid works for putting down the average domestic cow. Sub-10yards range through the front of the skull. Anglre has to be right.

I say HV, because I once saw someone using subsonic target loads on a cancer-eyed cow that hardly broke the skin on her forehead. I did the job for him.... snuck up on her blind-side and dropped her with a piece of inch-and-a-half galvanised pipe applied just behind the poll.

Cheers.......... Peter

MagKnightX
August 23, 2003, 04:30 PM
I used a .22 short solid lead to take out a 7-point whitetail at 143 yards, but that's nothing compared to the time that I dropped a black rhino with a Tokyo Marui Airsoft Beretta 92. Or the time when I dropped a charging elephant with a Super Soaker, although I had to deliver a coup de grace with a Nerf. </sarcasm>

cooch
August 24, 2003, 12:26 AM
MagKnight...

What's your issue sunshine??


Peter......... (Cattleman)

saddlebum
August 25, 2003, 09:39 PM
friend of mine killed a 350lb black bear in new mexico with a .17 remington. i ran the camara with one hand on my 270 weatherby mag just in case. saddlebum

H&Hhunter
September 25, 2003, 10:26 PM
kind of a play off of the other thread. But it brings up a good point.

I'm thinking that mine would have to be a .223 on Elk. It was a 55gr FMJ at about 80 yards on a cow elk during a depradation hunt. Head shot. We killed 8 elk that day with an S&W model 1500 rifle in .223. these were all shot on various hay fields and I believe that they were primarily head or neck shots on stationary cows from a truck.

ACP230
September 25, 2003, 11:32 PM
The .250 Savage on deer.

4v50 Gary
September 26, 2003, 12:47 PM
Head shot with a 22 Hornet on deer. It was within 50 yards and so the rifle wasn't even considered. And to think the the Hornet was for zapping squirrels as a sideline. :)

kentucky bucky
September 27, 2003, 02:18 AM
.577 Nitro Express

H&Hhunter
September 27, 2003, 10:42 PM
.577 Nitro Express

Kentucky,

If that's your smallest gun I'd hate to hear about your big one!!!:uhoh:

What you'd shoot with it a Tyranasoaur??:eek:

Rick Teal
October 8, 2003, 12:14 AM
6mm Remington.

USMC-Mustang
October 9, 2003, 07:10 PM
My first deer with a Western Field 222, 200 yrd shot in West Tx. I also shot an Aoudad last summer with a 22-250 right behind the ear.

Surely
January 23, 2004, 11:48 PM
This year I finished off my hunting buddies whitetail doe with 9 grain pellet to the back of its head, traveling at about 900 fps it did the trick, the deer went limp instantly, fear the pelletgun!

smokemaker
January 24, 2004, 03:29 PM
I have shot all manner of critters with a very hotly loaded .38 (+P+ and a bit more), to include a smallish blacktail. Hornady 110 grain XTP and a heap of HS-7 (can't in good conscience print the load). Gun is a Dan Wesson 709 VH-6, and the load came from a few months of very careful testing. The brass still falls out of the gun without the ejecter rod being stroked, primers aren't flattened, and primer pockets are in good shape. I only used a special lot of brass with blue stained headstamps, so it doesn't blow up a J frame S&W by accident.
Go ahead and give me the face...:scrutiny:
The deer, by the way, went about 35-40 yards and piled up. Found the bullet in the far ribcage, perfectly expanded.

critter
January 24, 2004, 07:38 PM
.223 with milsurp fmj ammo. I waited nearly TWO HOURS to get a PERFECT double shoulder shot on a 200 lb boar hog, FINALLY at about 50 yds. At the shot, he took off like he was not touched but fell dead after about 60 yds.

Would NOT do that again! Lotta luck involved!

Smoke
January 25, 2004, 12:00 PM
I....uhmmmm....have seen many white tails taken with a standard .22lr at various distances.

Smoke

nygunguy
January 25, 2004, 03:02 PM
I've taken three good sized deer and two little ones with the .30-30. Four of them went straight down. One of the little ones ran about 300 yards before piling in - I was amazed that it ran that far especially given the blood trail.

Years ago there was a guy in PA who took a black bear almost every year with a .222. If it were legal I'd love to try using my .22WMR because it's the most accurate rifle I currently own at inside 100 yards and HP ammo does a pretty fair job on the backside of a pumpkin. I guess my philosophy is that an accurate gun is better than a big gun any day if the operator does it right.

All of the rest of my gun deer were taken with a 12 or 20 gauge shotgun or my .50 caliber inline ML. I'm trying real hard to get one with my .44MAG. I bought the inline to extensd my season but have all but dropped the shotguns because of the meat damage/loss.

Personally, I'd rather take deer or any other big game with a bow. I've only bow hunted for deer and like that I don't blow big holes in them.

Joe Demko
January 26, 2004, 01:56 PM
.22lr drops whitetail where they stand when properly applied. The trick is that proper application is easiest using methods of which the PA Game Commission disapproves.

BIGR
February 5, 2004, 08:33 PM
30.06 I've carried the 7MM08 a few times but never got to try it out on big game.

rust collector
February 9, 2004, 10:38 PM
6mm Rem when it was the latest, greatest whiz-bang killing machine in the late 60s, early 70s. Seemed to put them down just fine, but the gun writers stopped touting the cartridge so I figured it must be obsolete.

Since then I've graduated to 6.5 x 55 and 7 x 57.

mrvickery
February 12, 2004, 01:58 AM
When I was a kid me and a friend used 22lr on deer when we hunted the long lease. Head shots mostly, out to about 50yds. Never lost any.

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