Colt All American
Don of Kalifornia
August 18, 2003, 01:54 AM
Bought at the gun show this weekend a Colt All american First addition, w/ 2 hi cap mags. It's never been fired new in the box, has all the paperwork and even the Colt box over the plastic case. Give me some ideas what you'd pay for it, I think I got a real good deal
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Mike Irwin
August 18, 2003, 02:27 AM
What I would pay for it?
Not a damned thing.
Sorry.
They were a freaking disaster.
WonderNine
August 18, 2003, 03:05 AM
http://www.gunsmoke.com/scot/guns/colt_all_american.html
Please do not fire this gun. Not for safety's sake as I'm sure it'll work fine, but keep it as a collectors piece. Unfired condition will fetch a much higher premium. It will only go up in value to the right person.
dfariswheel
August 18, 2003, 01:42 PM
As above, the All American 2000 was a disaster for Colt, and as a shooter is almost certainly a losing proposition. At one point, Colt was dumping these on the market to clear them out, and wholesalers were selling them at the $250.00 range.
Where the value lies, is in it's collectability. The 2000 was only made for a few years, and collectors are starting to buy them up.
Actual value depends entirely on where you live, and what the going price there is. You may have gotten a deal, or you may have paid too much.
In any event, if it's actually brand new, unfired in the box with all papers, fire ONE shot out of it the value PLUNGES.
If you bought it to shoot.....don't. Either sit on it as an investment, or sell it now to a collector.
rappa
August 18, 2003, 01:47 PM
Ditto what everyone else said. Keep it NIB, unfired as a collector's item or sell it for an inflated price to a collector and get another pistol.
1911Tuner
August 18, 2003, 02:47 PM
Next to the Nambu, that's got to be the UGLIEST pistol to come down
the pike since 1900. I can't imagine a CEO who would look at the
prototype and say..."Yeah! This is gonna be a hot item! Tool up!"
:rolleyes:
*coff coff*
Tuner
Norm357
August 18, 2003, 03:29 PM
Next to the Nambu, that's got to be the UGLIEST pistol to come down
the pike since 1900. I can't imagine a CEO who would look at the
prototype and say..."Yeah! This is gonna be a hot item! Tool up!"
Odd, I allways thought that they looked ok. Taste is subjective as they say.:p
Norm
Dr.Rob
August 18, 2003, 03:30 PM
Tool up? Guess you missed the part where Colt bought an existing design from someone else?
I've seen unfired all americans going for $700-800, and thats NOT the first edition all steel ones.
Funny considering they really were being dumped for $250 or so a while back.
And MANY pistols ahve had a recall like that, after some fool fell down with his finger on the trigger. If its been fired, keep shooting it.
Mike Irwin
August 18, 2003, 03:38 PM
"Tool up? Guess you missed the part where Colt bought an existing design from someone else?"
They bought elements of an existing design from Reid Knight, IIRC. They didn't buy the whole thing lock, stock, and barrel.
They also had to tool up to manufacture the gun.
If anyone is interested in the saga of the Colt AA 2000, go over to www.thefiringline and search on my name and Colt 2000.
The whole thing was just a travesty.
Mal H
August 18, 2003, 04:06 PM
I'll save you all some search time. This one thread should be sufficient: http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60570
Mike Irwin
August 18, 2003, 04:09 PM
You da man, Mal!
Preacherman
August 18, 2003, 04:48 PM
Favorite quote from the TFL thread:
The trigger pull was so long that by the time the thing went off, I had forgotten what I was shooting at.
:D :p :neener:
Dr.Rob
August 19, 2003, 12:33 AM
Point was, they (Colt) didn't do enough R&D, as they would have with one of their own, they 'saved" money on the front end but ultimately failed with a handgun noone wanted.
That's the same reason an Edsel is worth money, or a Lionel girl's train.
Don of Kalifornia
August 19, 2003, 08:56 AM
I didn't buy this gun to shoot, for shooters I have a lot better guns than this one. But bought it more for a gun you hardly see anymore, I picked it up from the orginal owner, he was unload some of his collection and he made me a pretty good deal.
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