[walfoort]

I'm thinking about getting a bp gun what should i get

[Voodoochile]

Man you left this WIDE OPEN...

Depends on what you are wanting in regards of Black Powder.

Muzzleloading Rifles?
There is Traditional types that fall in the lines of a Percussion lock or a Flintlock.
There are also the modern inline styles that use either a Percussion or a 209 Shotgun primer.

Muzzleloading Pistols?
There are the single shot pistols that resemble Traditional rifles except for the obvious of being a pistol.
Then there are the revolvers AKA Cap & Ball Revolvers of the pre Cartridge Era 1860's & prior.
Then in this list there is the Ruger Old Army Cap & Ball Revolver which is a modern weapon design that incorporates the percussion firing capability & loading similar to the 19th century brothers.

Muzzleloading Shotgun?
Very similar to the muzzleloading rifles in every aspect of design except the side by side models are more popular in shotgun than rifle "I may be wrong with this last bit of statement."

Opinions Will vary but it all depends on your taste & requirements.

My opinion on the best.
Traditional rifles:
Flint Lock = I would say the Pennsylvania or Kentucky rifles are the best in design & function "non military nor smooth bore."
Percussion Lock = I would say the Model 1863 Zouave is the best in the military department, & the Tompson Center New Englander for a traditional style hunting rifle.

Inlines:
I'm not much with these but I would say the Tompson Center Omega is a real good rifle.

Pistol:
Colt 1851 Navy Designed revolver .36cal ONLY!
Remington 1858 New Army designed Cap & Ball revolver .44cal.

Shot Gun:
Tompson Center New Englander 12ga.

[scrat]

Forgot Cannon

[Voodoochile]

Forgot Cannon

OPS

Well if ya really want to wake the neighbors up.. :D

[JCT]

Kinda like " I'm in the market for a vehicle, which one is the best? "

[scrat]

JCT that easy. The ones that have tires. Anybody knows that.

[Bayou Runner]

Pretty much depends on what you plan to do with it. Once you make that decision, you can tackle the lot that's produced from it. Next, you have to decide what to get for the second one. And the beat goes on, and on, and on.
Question...what sparked your interest in a BP Arm?

[scrat]

As for the cannon. Im still debating right now

http://blackpowder-cannons.com/products.htm

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=37620

video

http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/ohsmily/?action=view&current=MVI_0342.flv

http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/ohsmily/?action=view&current=MVI_0323.flv

[Fiveshooter]

Scrat,
Those look really nice. I wish it were in my budget but not at the present time. There is a guy that shoots where I do that has a 3" bore cannon that he built. He also has a mold for 3" round balls :eek: The link below is of my son firing it. It is a fun toy but it eats a LOT of powder :rolleyes:

http://photos.imageevent.com/fiveshooter/videos/Jason%20Firing%20Canon.mpg

[scrat]

five shooter that is soooo cool

[theotherwaldo]

I used to sell Lyle guns at rendezvous, but that guy Dominick Carpenter is selling for the price that I was paying - in 1979!

WOW!!

Firing a Lyle gun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AayYvoYjidM

[Rachen]

Pietta Remington 1858 hands down.

Simply the best, no questions about it.

[dwave]

Simply the best, no questions about it.

Nope. But your right, there are no questions that it isn't the best. :)

Uberti 1858 .44 and Ruger Old Army are two fine revolvers that normally exceed Pietta guns.

[Omnivore]

Get the one you like. Most will say you should start with something simple, which means a caplock as opposed to flint. But if there's something that really turns your crank, go for it.

Voodoo is right-- depends what you want to do with it. My first BP gun was purchased for a single-minded purpose-- to hunt muzzleloader season. That really, really, narrows the choices down. You start with your local hunting restrictions and go from there. In my case it meant a rifle with a sidelock of at least 50 caliber, etc.. The one that was on the wall at the local gun store was the other limiting factor-- he had one that met the hunting criteria. My choice was thereby reduced to one, so it was easy.

[scrat]

1851 or 1860

[mykeal]

BEST pistol: 2nd Generation Colt 1851 Navy
BEST rifle: custom made .54 cal Hawken halfstock caplock

Best reasonable cost pistol: Ruger Old Army
Best reasonable cost rifle: Lyman .54 cal Great Plains Rifle

Just my opinion.

[Pancho]

I'd like to have walfoort jump back in here and narrow down the field a bit.

[4v50 Gary]

Concur with Pancho. Walfoot, what do you want to do with your gun?

[tightgroups]

Go with the Remington 1858. Hands down it is way more accurate then any Colt design, more reliable too. You'll be able to load it a lot faster then the 1851 also! Not to mention the original caliber was .44 compared with the .36 of the '51 Navy!

The 1858 rules!

[Perk]

Oh, WALLFOORT... :uhoh:

(Wohin sind Sie, alte junge?)

[sundance44s]

I`d say get one of these ~
http://i32.tinypic.com/2vlmgxz.jpg

[Perk]

I disagree.







You'll need two of 'em. :evil:

[dwave]

You'll be able to load it a lot faster then the 1851 also!

How do you figure?

[Voodoochile]

Quote:
[You'll be able to load it a lot faster then the 1851 also!]

How do you figure?

By having spare pre loaded cylinders.
Otherwise they both take the same amount of time to load.

[whosyrdaddy]

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PERK,

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[4v50 Gary]

Waste of bandwidth.